I try to get in early with that position. I try not to invest in any of the performers from the get go. I like to critique the dances, at least the two I know. This is easy though because salsas and ATs are all rubbish on SCD, so its just a question of the degree to which they are rubbish. But otherwise I never give a monkey's cuss who wins. Which is just as well because half the winners haven't been the person I felt was best through the series. It never occurs to me to conclude that is due to fixing though, only that the voting public, vote with their hearts not their heads - which is fair enough.

It's monkey's chuff actually, a piece of Elizabethan fashion. As in "Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious by this monkey's chuff".

I'm sorry, saying a persons joyful reaction causing nausea is a pretty good description of hating in my book.

And yes I realise the comments from these haters are not those of 12 year olds, I expect better.

I read someone's post on the Strictly Facebook page that he was biased because he's godfather to both him and Joanne!

Maybe he's Karen's honorary godfather too since she became a Clifton

I thought it was lovely - and not sure if anyone's mentioned, but also loved his comment on ITT on Friday when Zoe asked about Bruno giving Louise and him 10s for the last few weeks - quick as a flash be came back 'Because he's my Dad'.

I think Louise has been a good influence on him this year.

It's really the best way, I feel. I can help feeling that the outrage that so many people feel over issues to do with the show are largely self-generated but then again, because the show asks people to vote for their personal favourite, it just internalises the process so that if and when their favourite has to drop out, it apparently seems like a personal affront to some people.

Few people come out of doing Strictly with regrets because it usually does give their public profile a boost and it is supposed to be a joyful, glorious show designed to entertain and lets the public be part of it by involving them in the process of voting for their favourites... so it has all the components for huge success and popularity.

I just wish people didn't take it all so seriously and get their knickers in a twist over things which really don't matter. There are some genuinely terrible things which happen in the world to people who don't deserve it. Seeing one's favourite celeb dancer being kicked out of Strictly is not, in the great scheme of things, worth getting worked up into such a frenzy of indignation and pique.

...........and Amen to that.

Some threads have totally sickened me but this one has been (mainly) kind, friendly and totally refreshing.

Well said!

It actually seems to be rather rude, just do a search on the phrase. Several alternatives are quote from slightly rude to rude to very rude!

Whilst I appreciate Kevin's joy at seeing his sister through to the final, I've been increasingly annoyed by his football terraces type reactions on the results show this year. Joy, exuberance, happiness but please, no more fist pumps and massive hollers of 'YES! YES!' ... just a happy faced thank you to the camera will suffice in future.

I've always liked Kevin since he first started on the show. I've never been able to understand all those who bash him for such silly things as his trademark kick he does at the start of each show. He obviously really enjoys being on the show a lot and lets it show in his exuberance. That makes people dislike him? Jo I've not been able to bond with as quickly, theres just something about her that grates on me and I don't know what, but she is obviously an amazing teacher as she has done wonders with her partners. Seeing Kev pump his fist in the air when she and Ore got through only cemented my liking for him. Now if this had been a World Championship things may have been a little different, lol, but this is a tv show and so he relaxes and can show his love and support for his little sister.

The people who say its fixed for the Clifton's have no proof other than both Kev and Jo got good partners this year. They worked hard and managed to get to the final on skill, talent and luck, but to say its fixed just because of the Clifton name ... I think its a stretch.

Hallelujah. You sound very healthy and grounded and most of all on this forum ...sane!

Its great they danced together since they were kids and both have had careers which have led then to Strictly.

Kevin thought of his sister before himself. That's what big brother's do.

Thank you.