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Louise's popularity?
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sambadan
12-12-2016
Louise has a certain grace, elegance, innocence and sincerity in her dancing. This combined with what seems to be a very down to earth and unassuming nature is I suspect a major part of her popularity with some of the public.
Different viewers will want different things from dance routines and from the celebs involved.
We all look at dance through different eyes and have different feelings through watching different types of personalities. This is a great thing. If we all liked the same people doing the same things in the same way the world would be a terribly boring place.
Louise embodies an understanding of that and the vanilla vision in one pair of eyes is the vision of beautiful motion in another. I think all three finalists have plenty of good about them in different ways. I would like to think it is time to focus on that now. What's done is done.
Let's encourage the remaining couples to put on the best final they can and embrace the experience.
robbleona
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Chris was bottom and Louise was tied, not the same.”

Maybe not...but internet polls last week showed her well ahead in two, and narrowly behind danny in the other one. The only thing I found surprising about saturday's public vote was danny finishing behind ore too. To win, danny has to find a lot of extra votes this week from somewhere.
Also true that a lot of 'celebs' are talking up louise in the last few weeks...similar to the type of support that turned things in favour of abbey clancey.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Definitely this.”

Wait, what?! I'm a rugby fan and certainly not into footballers. No one I know who votes for Louise is a footy fan so rubbish.

Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Kevin is not popular in the least on any sites I go on. I don't trust the voting but then again I never take things at face value. Until they start producing voting stats, I am not believing that Louise is as popular as we are meant to believe. Winner 2016.”

So you really think they would rig the votes?

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I think she is an excellent dancer, very graceful, lovely footwork and she's charming.

I understand exactly why she is popular.

I've always had a lot of respect for her tech, although I find her lack of performance a bit frustrating.

I hope she lets go in the final and does a fabulous ballroom based showdance.”

Me too, Rhumba. They all deserve their places and I hope they all are fantastic.
DJMonty21
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by sambadan:
“Louise has a certain grace, elegance, innocence and sincerity in her dancing. This combined with what seems to be a very down to earth and unassuming nature is I suspect a major part of her popularity with some of the public.
Different viewers will want different things from dance routines and from the celebs involved.
We all look at dance through different eyes and have different feelings through watching different types of personalities. This is a great thing. If we all liked the same people doing the same things in the same way the world would be a terribly boring place.
Louise embodies an understanding of that and the vanilla vision in one pair of eyes is the vision of beautiful motion in another. I think all three finalists have plenty of good about them in different ways. I would like to think it is time to focus on that now. What's done is done.
Let's encourage the remaining couples to put on the best final they can and embrace the experience.”

Fabulous post, very well said!
shrinkingviolet
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Kevin is not popular in the least on any sites I go on. I don't trust the voting but then again I never take things at face value. Until they start producing voting stats, I am not believing that Louise is as popular as we are meant to believe. Winner 2016.”

Surely with that mindset there is no reason for anyone to accept any result they don't like, ever.

You might not want to believe that Kevin is popular, but he has made 4 finals, three of them with women over the age of 40 and only one of them with a high profile, so not with ringahs, so he's clearly doing something right.
robbleona
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by daziechain;84879335[[B:
“B]]I'm sure she's nice enough but her dancing is so uninspired. That samba on Sat night was an absolute shocker [/b]and the Tango not much better.[/b] She doesn't convince and it's all a bit clumpy and on the edge of control. It's not a relaxing watch as she rarely looks comfortable in fact she looks embarrassed. She wouldn't be the worst winner but few of her dances would go down in Strictly history as wow dances. Not sure any would but that didn't stop Chris Hollins or Darren Gough.
We all know though that Strictly is as much a popularity contest as a dance contest so it's just as important to engage with the viewers as it is to dance well and though I'm baffled by it she's clearly done that.”

you are right...it was over praised and overmarked....but then again so were OTHERS on the night.....
yellowlabbie
12-12-2016
[quote=Domestos;84879590]Wait, what?! I'm a rugby fan and certainly not into footballers. No one I know who votes for Louise is a footy fan so rubbish.


So you don't think family and friends of Jamie etc are voting for her. That's rubbish.
Sarah777
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by robbleona:
“Maybe not...but internet polls last week showed her well ahead in two, and narrowly behind danny in the other one. The only thing I found surprising about saturday's public vote was danny finishing behind ore too. To win, danny has to find a lot of extra votes this week from somewhere.
Also true that a lot of 'celebs' are talking up louise in the last few weeks...similar to the type of support that turned things in favour of abbey clancey.”

I am not saying it can't happen. I still haven't got over Abbey winning and then now this??? Nooooooooooooo
Monkseal
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by cwickham:
“Louise escaped the dance-off from the bottom of the leaderboard in the semi-final. The last time somebody did that, it was Chris Hollins. That strongly suggests to me that she has very good support, and as things stand she must be the favourite to win.”

In fairness, that was three people and if there had been a dance-off (instead of it being public vote alone) he would have gone home.
LovesATango
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Not one of them wouldn't have struggled with a Tango set to Glad all Over, the theming and costumes. Talk about taking away the very essence of the dance on pretty much every level. Despite that I thought she was sharp. The samba was never going to be a good dance for her again she managed and got many parts right.

I really do like watching her, I like her naturalness, precision and think she looks very very happy while dancing. So maybe she isn't the greatest performer but she is up there this year as one of the best dancers.”

Agree "Glad all Over" was a joke song for a Tango although in a strange way it might have helped her avoid criticism for lack of performance. Wearing the required "tango face" while dancing to "Glad all Over" would have been doubly ludicrous.

Louise is a solid technical dancer and when she's in her narrow performance comfort zone, I enjoy watching her. I just wish that zone was wider.
yellowlabbie
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I am not saying it can't happen. I still haven't got over Abbey winning and then now this??? Nooooooooooooo ”

You and me both
robbleona
12-12-2016
[quote=yellowlabbie;84879658]
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Wait, what?! I'm a rugby fan and certainly not into footballers. No one I know who votes for Louise is a footy fan so rubbish.


So you don't think family and friends of Jamie etc are voting for her. That's rubbish.”

Yeah but it has to be more than that. There seems to be a growing 'celeb' bandwagon behind her on ITT, and her over 40's momsy appeal puts her in front of, say, a young immature claudia or a perceived 'cocky' danny maybe....just saying!
Leicester_Hunk
12-12-2016
[quote=robbleona;84879692]
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“
Yeah but it has to be more than that. There seems to be a growing 'celeb' bandwagon behind her on ITT, and her over 40's momsy appeal puts her in front of, say, a young immature claudia or a perceived 'cocky' danny maybe....just saying!”

Claudia is not immature.
StellaBella05
12-12-2016
I think Louise just seems like a lovely person with no airs or graces or an attitude about anything. She always looks so pleased for the other contestants and watching the DO last night she looked really upset for the two couples.

I like how she has just got on with her dancing, delivering some wonderful routines and being just a genuinely nice contestant.

I think the phrase 'nice girls finish last' doesn't apply to the Strictly audience at all.
madetomeasure
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Surely with that mindset there is no reason for anyone to accept any result they don't like, ever.

You might not want to believe that Kevin is popular, but he has made 4 finals, three of them with women over the age of 40 and only one of them with a high profile, so not with ringahs, so he's clearly doing something right.”

Regardless of his partners' ages, it is because he's made 4 consecutive finals, I'm skeptical. I have said before, I think his choreography, although toned down, isn't the best and sorry but its too much of a coincidence to have a 100 per cent success rate in getting to the finals when you've been on the show for four years. If he was an exceptional dancer, I might think differently. He's been damn lucky ..he knows it and the public know it. I'm not bigging him up or his ability to turn around any partner he has.
shrinkingviolet
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Regardless of his partners' ages, it is because he's made 4 consecutive finals, I'm skeptical. I have said before, I think his choreography, although toned down, isn't the best and sorry but its too much of a coincidence to have a 100 per cent success rate in getting to the finals when you've been on the show for four years. If he was an exceptional dancer, I might think differently. He's been damn lucky ..he knows it and the public know it. I'm not bigging him up or his ability to turn around any partner he has.”

Ok, I get it - you don't like him & don't rate him so it must be a fix to justify it. Got it. And the Cliftons are so important that the judges, producers and BBC would jeopardise the reputation of one of their biggest shows to facilitate this fix.
Domestos
12-12-2016
[quote=yellowlabbie;84879658]
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Wait, what?! I'm a rugby fan and certainly not into footballers. No one I know who votes for Louise is a footy fan so rubbish.


So you don't think family and friends of Jamie etc are voting for her. That's rubbish.”

I think some will but I doubt her vote is heavily weighted by football fans. I just can't see it, although I could be wrong. And even if it was I assume you don't think there is a problem with that?
yellowlabbie
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Ok, I get it - you don't like him & don't rate him so it must be a fix to justify it. Got it. And the Cliftons are so important that the judges, producers and BBC would jeopardise the reputation of one of their biggest shows to facilitate this fix.”

Obviously you don't get it.
Rhumbatugger
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Ok, I get it - you don't like him & don't rate him so it must be a fix to justify it. Got it. And the Cliftons are so important that the judges, producers and BBC would jeopardise the reputation of one of their biggest shows to facilitate this fix.”

All because Bruno is his Dad

I mean it can't be Godfather Len, because he's retiring.
Monkseal
12-12-2016
I'm really truly baffled that people are implying that the producers love Kevin so much that they would fake the public vote to get him to the final but not to have him win even though they could have done it with Susanna and Frankie and it wouldn't even have looked remotely dodgy.
Domestos
12-12-2016
[quote=robbleona;84879692]
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“
Yeah but it has to be more than that. There seems to be a growing 'celeb' bandwagon behind her on ITT, and her over 40's momsy appeal puts her in front of, say, a young immature claudia or a perceived 'cocky' danny maybe....just saying!”

That may be true, although I don't see Clauda as immature or Danny as cocky but if you really enjoyed a different celeb than the one being bandwaggoned would you change your mind?

I wouldn't.

Louise grew on me slowly. I went into the series loving Anastacia and Will, then as they left noticed her more and more and enjoyed her more and more. It was a slow burn.
Rhumbatugger
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I'm really truly baffled that people are implying that the producers love Kevin so much that they would fake the public vote to get him to the final but not to have him win even though they could have done it with Susanna and Frankie and it wouldn't even have looked remotely dodgy.”

It's a deep, deeep, plan - it could take years. They're just lulling us into a false sense of security. I don't know what the actual object is, but I'M SURE it's there, somewhere.

DJMonty21
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“It's a deep, deeep, plan - it could take years. They're just lulling us into a false sense of security. I don't know what the actual object is, but I'M SURE it's there, somewhere.

”

Maybe it's a ploy to keep him on the show until he wins with the shows first octogenarian!
bobbla
12-12-2016
She reminds me of Ali Bastien (who i loved) in that she has a quiet dignified way about her. For me the difference being that Ali was constantly being criticised by the judges for not giving it some welly and was painted by them as bland and vanilla, whereas Louise is constantly lauded for performances that are either similar or decidedly more tame. At least Ali managed to achieve some stand out dances and perfect scores.
Rhumbatugger
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“Maybe it's a ploy to keep him on the show until he wins with the shows first octogenarian!”

Not enough, he's going to be kept there until he's the first to get TWO octogenarians to the final.

There must be some reason why. I suspect some sort of 'time' problem that means kevin HAS to keep being in the final otherwise, end of the world as we know it.
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