I recall she didn't add much value as a judge on sytycd but she was generally nice (unlike Darcey)

She wasn't as nice as Darcey, she wasn't as informed as Darcey and her comments couldn't really be taken as seriously.

Jason Gardiner was never anywhere near So You Think You Can Dance.

Just like that one time Dame Margot Fonteyn reached across and told her to stop being such a fiesty bitch to contestants. Honestly people, get yo' facts right if you're going to start an argument.

I had a look for some footage on youtube, I couldn't find much but there were interesting bits that were different from how she seems on SCD.

In one she remarked that a dance was all on one level and in the later stages she wants a more explosive performance - makes you wonder how she would judge herself!!! In this one she was also leering at a bloke's torso, which is also different from how she comes across on SCD.

One was far more surprising though, she was arguing with another judge (Sisco) and afterwards they were interviewed separately and she said "what Sisco seems to forget is that he used to dance for me". It came across to me as being arrogant and a remark to put him back in his box.

P.S. I think the judge was called Lithgoe.

Oh dear! I remember that now you've mentioned it. My OH never liked her as a co-host on 'Something For the Weekend' as when interviewing he said she always bought the subject back around to herself!

Be that........ as it may .........
As I stated in my initial post, there have been a number of quality dancers not to have made the final down the years.
Irrespective of how often anyone has been paired up with talented celeb partners there are pros who have failed to get them into finals. Kevin, like him or not has a perfect track record in this regard. As I said before this cannot be considered a jammy fluke four times in a row with blatant favouritism each and every time imo.
Four partners, four finals. The common denominator is Kevin.
You claim he did not improve his partners. This is a matter of opinion and an assertion I do not agree with.
In the case of Louise her scores started off in the low thirties then moved up into the high thirties.
You may choose to attach little credence to the scoring as is your right but I take the view her performances improved from after her Rumba onwards in line with her scores and her high performance level was maintained up to the semi final where she landed a Samba which is notoriously difficult in any event.
Frankie was unquestionably better by the end of the series than the start as was Kellie and to a lesser extent Susanna imo.

Apparently so.

If you see the audience at strictly pro dancer tours, you might notice something. I mean the Anton and Erin, Pasha, Vincent and Flavia and other shows plus the stadium strictly shows. There are an awful lot of forty something women prepared to turn out and pay to see their favourites. I reckon most of them are the regular voters every week. They identify with "nice" forty something mumsy celebs who are trying hard and they would like to be. So Louise gets a lot of votes in the show, just like Kelly Bright and Suzanna Reid did. Partnering with somebody who is not exotic and they could imagine living next door doesn't do any harm either. Kevin is also good pitching how much traditional ballroom to stress in training and choreography to get the judges onside. It's a form of exam technique to make the most of what you're given.

Voting in the final is different, far more and younger voters, which is why Kevin has made finals but not won. Almost certainly to be repeated this year. And Kevin will get another mumsy, fairly competent but "safe" dancer next year. Because the producers know who is attracting votes from week 1, and how it builds audience in the whole family.

Mumsy?!!! Bit of a generalisation for women in their 40s. I wouldn't say any of his 4 partners represented that image.

Certainly the 40 plus woman is one of two demographic groups with the greatest propensity to vote (across all TV shows with a public vote). The other being women in the 16 to 24 age group.

Isn't that just...women?

So true. Being nice appeals to a certain demographic who need to feel they can somehow relate to someone who 'is a bit like the girl next door' or a nice neighbour.

This is particularly important if dancing is something they watch but don't know that much about. They know what they like.

Dynamic, particularly talented or different is not their bag. They like modesty and humble, even if the humble is outrageously faked Louise has had a solid grounding in dance, particularly ballet. She has done a number of pop videos and you can see how well she can move in them. She has also been a judge for another dance competition programme, so she knows her stuff. Of course she's a lovely dancer. She ought to be!

It makes for fairly dull watching yes, but jaw dropping talent is just a bit too disturbing and it makes GBP suspicious.

Shame really, but there it is. She is a nice person and I wish her well, but I tend to prefer someone who really knocks my socks off.

But since I never vote it hardly matters. The public will choose their own for their own reasons. It is just a show.

Yeah. Surely. Did we miss something?

How damning and pretty much rubbish. I absolutely love knock out talent and while Danny is talented and a showman he isn't a knock out 'omg Ima gonna faint' talent. Every series I've liked very different personalities, this year I took to Louise and her 'nice' dancing. Doesn't mean I don't think Danny is all around better, I like her and really don't think she is trying to fool people. She has referred to her previous dancing at least a couple of times.

Ore and Danny have had knock out moments, in fairness Louise hasn't but she's been steady and pleasing and I think genuinely had a crisis of confidence. Sometimes less flash is good too. I can like Louise best and enjoy the dancing of all three for different reasons.

Yeah, well I'm probably a lot more choosy than you. The only knock out this year is Oti who makes the other pros look a bit lumpen (apart from Katya who is amazing). I don't think Danny is 'knock out' either. In fact no one is this year. I do however like Oti and Danny's partnership. She has brought our the best in him. It will do his career good. Ed was hilarious.

Like what you like - it's up to you, but my opinion is not 'rubbish' just because you don't like it. I see what I see. And I'm entitled!

You cannot lump every supporter as having the same psychological profile, that was what I meant as rubbish. I am sure there are some rather pedestrian people who like Danny best and maybe some real bohemians who love Ore.

Oti is a stunning dancer, I agree. You are a dancer and I always take heed of your comments, regarding Latin in particular, the way I take heed of the Ballroom babes re Louise. She is a beautiful dancer at her best.

And damnit I am entitled too! (Oh and Lumpen was my favourite word to describe Claudia's dancing up to the semis. It's a wonderful description)