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Teenage girls vote helped by mass free voting by app - pretty boy wins.
Hormones I would suggest are the main reason. |
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Yet the Hungarian group won BGT.
No-one objected to Jedward being on it. Honestly I don't think Xenophobia is a factor |
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Yet the Hungarian group won BGT.
No-one objected to Jedward being on it. Honestly I don't think Xenophobia is a factor |
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I've spoken to a lot of people who vote and they all say that Sara didn't deserve to win as she wasn't born in the UK, she's Finnish and it's the UK X-Factor..
Is that fair or are people been Little Englanders? I admit that I feel more connection with someone born in the UK isles (same with British footballers at a football club), but when she was allowed to enter she should win if she deserves to and she was the best singer by a mile ! |
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She wouldn't have got to the final surely if this was true
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I don't think Cowell wants to sign Saara because he didn't hint at wanting to sign her when congratulating her. Anyway, I think Saara wanted the freedom of getting the best deal by making it to second place.
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Unfortunately we're in brexit Britain so off course.
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I don't think Cowell wants to sign Saara because he didn't hint at wanting to sign her when congratulating her. Anyway, I think Saara wanted the freedom of getting the best deal by making it to second place.
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I've spoken to a lot of people who vote and they all say that Sara didn't deserve to win as she wasn't born in the UK, she's Finnish and it's the UK X-Factor..
Is that fair or are people been Little Englanders? I admit that I feel more connection with someone born in the UK isles (same with British footballers at a football club), but when she was allowed to enter she should win if she deserves to and she was the best singer by a mile ! |
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More damaging than any xenophobia though was the terrible songs she was given to sing at the final. |
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It's very difficult for a woman to win in a direct head to head with a man on this show- 62% of the viewers are female and that app vote has made things even harder. Whenever a woman has won before her male competition has been incredibly weak and the judges have had to work overdrive all series to make it happen. Louisa had to go up against Reggie n Bollie to win, Leona against Ray Quinn, Sam Bailey almost beaten by Nicholas Mcdonald, Little Mix almost beaten by Marcus Collins, Alexandra beaten b Eoghan Quigg almost every week and needed Beyonce to overtake a boyband.
I honestly don't think any of the female winners could have beaten Matt Terry in a head to head. |
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I've read your post again, and I have to say it appals me. We are all foreigners, there are no native British people.
![]() As for 'foreigners' - in the real world as opposed some PC Guardianista world - you can be regarded as alien if you come from a different UK village - let alone a different country. In times gone by this was a life preservation thing and it is now wired into our DNA albeit mostly subconsciously.. |
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It's very difficult for a woman to win in a direct head to head with a man on this show- 62% of the viewers are female and that app vote has made things even harder..
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I've read your post again, and I have to say it appals me. We are all foreigners, there are no native British people.
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You haven't used the homophobic card yet come on she didn't win cus she is a lesbian,or she had blonde hair ,she didn't win full stop get over it
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Cute boy beats girl in popularity contest, nothing xenophobic about it.
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I think in the early stages of the live shows it played a part. Saara was consistently the best performer but ended up in the bottom two and I think that is because the VTs and comments all tried to make her seem "different". But her peformances won people over.
I have lived near Bromley all my life and at no point did I feel an affinity with my local contestant. Matt is bland and limited and I'd never vote based on the fact that we've probably both been into the same Macdonalds at some point. The voting results show that Matt was popular from day one. He's the sort of winner the show loves - a completely blank canvas they can manipulate and then spit out. His resemblance to one of One Direction will have got the tween vote. We were constantly told he was a "heartthrob" and a good looking young lad will always do well. |
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Brexit means brexit
What don't you guys understand about leave winning. Not letting Saara win just so the remain side can use it to prove brexit should be blocked Why don't some people who voted leave understand that almost half of the country don't agree them, why on earth should they go quiet and not have any say whatsoever on what happens next when it affects them directly? Anyone that dares disagree with Brexit is a 'remoaner' or a 'snowflake'. It's like being in primary school again. Unfortunately the word 'compromise' seems to have disappeared out of the worlds vocabulary this year. |
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I hope she isn't too disappointed.
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I voted remain and would do so again.I also voted for Matt because I thought he was the best contestant.you do know hes part spanish and has quite a big fanbase there ?
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Teenage girls vote helped by mass free voting by app - pretty boy wins.
Hormones I would suggest are the main reason. Back to the subject in hand: The name of the show is X-Factor, not Brits-only X-Factor and Saara was by far the better singer and should have won. She has a lovely voice and, hopefully, she'll go far. |
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You haven't used the homophobic card yet come on she didn't win cus she is a lesbian,or she had blonde hair ,she didn't win full stop get over it
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It didn't help. Nicole certainly knew what she was doing. It certainly isn't the first time a foreign contestant has been caught at the F2 stage despite being ahead before on a UK reality show.
More damaging than any xenophobia though was the terrible songs she was given to sing at the final. |
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Sorry, I can't relate to the "pretty boy" comment, Matt (to me) is anything but pretty as I found him most unattractive.
Back to the subject in hand: The name of the show is X-Factor, not Brits-only X-Factor and Saara was by far the better singer and should have won. She has a lovely voice and, hopefully, she'll go far. The show is not about the best singer but who gets most votes. And these days with free app voting the choice of the teenies wins. It's the same reason no one over 25 who isn't in a reality tv show or a soap will ever win I'm a celebrity or big brother anymore. Free app voting has killed them. |
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Teenage girls vote helped by mass free voting by app - pretty boy wins.
Hormones I would suggest are the main reason. But to my mind coming in second is certainly not xenophobia |
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