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Old 12-12-2016, 10:03
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My own favourite hasn't won since Louis, so nothing to see here for me.

What's indisputable is that the public vote for Louise on Saturday must have been higher than that for both Claudia and Danny, so the idea that Claudia (my fave this year) was somehow bounced out by the Illuminati or whomever seems a bit swivel-eyed.

I always remember my gallant losers' efforts (Pixie, Kellie, Natalie etc etc) when the public's choice fades, and I expect it will be the same this year with Claudia and AJ. But I'll be glued to the telly next Saturday no matter.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:06
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No, but I'm glad the whingers are going to leave us alone maybe the adults can have a proper conversation then.
Haha Sorry to spoil your fun but I never mentioned that I wouldn't be coming on the forum to whinge some more.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:18
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We'll certainly be watching, we like all of the people still left, although would have preferred Cloudia to Ore in the Final.

I suppose I should be used to it by now, but it still surprises me that people use such emotive language like 'sickened' and 'horrified' in relation to a reality TV show - seems grossly OTT to me. I reserve that kind of language for the situation in Syria and terrorist attacks etc.

Anyhow, Danny does seem to be the best dancer so I'll be happy if he wins, especially for Oti, who I think is superb. But Louise is my favourite (sorry) so I'll be happy if she wins too. The results show proved she has lots of support in the real world. And if Ore wins, well I think Joanne is terrific, so not all bad.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:18
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I thought I would come on here and see the usual - get a life whingers comments but I'm heartened to read that there are some people who feel exactly the same as me.

I probably wont watch the final because I have reasons why I don't like any of them. If I was pushed to choose, then it would be Danny. I shall watch ITT tonight just to see Claudia and AJs interview and that will be it as I cant abide the fawning that will go on when interviewing the others. I'm quite sad that I feel so disheartened as I have always looked forward to the final but I just feel that we could have predicted the final three very early on in the series by what the judges said and scored.

Claudia wasn't my favourite but I would have watched if she had been in it. As someone said let one of the Cliftons win and perhaps next year we can have a fairer allocation of partners and with Len gone, hopefully a fairer judge and that's not you Karen Hardy!!!
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:32
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Yes, it really has. I've watched every final since series three but won't watch on Saturday. I've fallen out of love with Strictly after this weekend.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:35
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They always do it. Every year.

It partly depends on who's on the tour. BBC staff always get more hype/support from the judges.

Always the same.

I'll be watching. Not avidly. Not "invested" in it. But I'll watch.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:45
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When Len, goes I'm sure the other 3 geniuses will be kept on.

Whilst I don't believe for a moment that the Beeb cares two hoots who actually wins, they certainly do care about ratings, so the bizarrely erratic scoring of these three ensures outrage and controversy, which in turn causes much attention to be focussed on the show.
I can't remember a year when there hasn't been outpourings of outrage on here re: the judges, although this year we may be close to maximum hysteria!
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:51
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I dunno about the judging, but the moronic hyperbole on this forum likely keeps most reasonable people away.
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:53
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They organise things so they end up with a popular entertainment show.
Why shouldn't they?
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:01
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First year ever I'm kinda bored by strictly. I really don't care who wins.
I don't think it's boredom that has put me off but rather (IMO) the unfair judging which led to Claudia's exit. I think her dancing is spectacular, foot perfect as some of the judges have been saying. Just shows that excellence in the actual dancinf really isn't what counts in the end. You have to have chemistry and "connection" but again that is a personal judgement.
I think Ore's QS was not a patch on Claudia's and Louise is too wooden for me, no real flow. The two couples who should have been in the DO, again IMO, are now in the Final. I can only hope that Danny wins.
Apart from anything else both the Winklewoman and, in the meantime, Darcy are spoiling it for me.
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:21
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It has sickened me but last year was the same.. Will watch the final only to witness the briliant partnership that Danny and Oti have one last time..

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Old 12-12-2016, 11:28
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I wish now that Ed had made it to the final. How Louise got more votes than Claudia I will never know. She is so boring to watch and as nice as she is, so boring as a person. Bit like her drippy husband.

I just so wish Claudia had not been in the dance off. If it had been any of the other 3 the judges would have gone into meltdown. Len probably would have had a heart attack and no doubt the viewers would have been told what idiots they were for voting for the "wrong" people.

I don't think the voting is fixed although the judges' scoring certainly was BUT I find it strange that Danny was in the DO (no one in their right mind who wants him to win would assume him to be safe in the semi final). Also facebook, twitter, DS and other forums were full of people annoyed by the judges' treatment of Claudia and saying they had voted numerous times for her. To beat that surely must mean Louise is going to win
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Old 12-12-2016, 11:30
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My mum and I have been watching Strictly for years and have always knew it was fairly micromanaged down to the tee with costumes, themes, music, choreography etc. You only have to take a look at what Tristan has said about it and why he never wanted to return.

But this weekend was really disappointing in terms of overmarking and undermarking. I was a big fan of Claudia and really like Danny and you can accept your favourites going out or being in B2 or the DO if it is done on merit but I really feel they didn't deserve to be there. Claudia in particular should have been higher on the leaderboard.

It just leaves a really bad taste in the mouth for a show that markets itself as being inclusive, family-oriented and obviously a product of the BBC.

If next year is just as blatant I think they may start to lose viewers.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:00
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The bias towards Louise has stopped me watching since Halloween tbh.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:07
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For the first time ever, I muted the judges' comments and the Clauditorium and only watched the dances in the SF after the award of four 9s to Louise for that tango in jumpers! It was so obvious that there was an agenda and that the marking and comments were meaningless.

For the same reason I won't watch ITT at all this week. I cannot bear the 'all those 10s' , it was so 'amazing' when it clearly wasn't . Plus tears and general Grimsby-ness.

I shall watch the dances in the final, enjoy the sparkliness, but not buy into the emotions and comments.

And finally, thank you Will Young for not allowing us to have a four person final, so one very deserving person didn't go through (and it could have been you!).
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:08
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The bias towards Louise has stopped me watching since Halloween tbh.
You've missed some great dances. Unlucky
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:23
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Totally agree!

No I won't now bother watching the final.

Slightly strange, as 2 of the finalists were my predictions from the start - Danny and Louise, but the blatant overmarking of "BBC Ore" and undermarking of Claudia (both her dances were better than Ore and that QS was possibly the best ever on SCD and deserved a 40) means I have zero interest now in the final.

I know it's "fixed" every year (Tom over Rachel and Austin was the worst), but that doesn't make it any more palatable.

If there is any justice in this crazy world we live in then Danny should win by a mile.

The only comfort from this series is the end of Len Goodman, who'd passed his "sell by date" even before Forsyth!
BIB - rewriting history, or what?!?

The judges/producers got rid of Austin because they wanted their darling Rachel to win, in a final against the appallingly overmarked and also unpopular Lisa Snowdon. Then they rigged the scoreboard in the semis so that Tom couldn't possibly win - hence the three-person final that year. Rachel may well have been technically brilliant, but she wasn't clicking with the public, who went with the contestant they preferred (who also did by far the best show dance). The SCD6 final should have been Tom/Austin/Rachel - but the producers/judges stopped that.

I have to laugh at the bitterness on this thread. If anyone's to blame for what has happened, it's Will Young, for bailing. If he hadn't, there'd be a four-contestant final (probably the four we saw in the semis). Was Claudia good? Yes, of course. But there was no way the judges wouldn't put their favourite through - and you could see that she and AJ knew that before the dance-off.

Way more interesting is the fact that Louise must be popular with viewers - she's never been in the dance-off and she was vulnerablelast night … yet she went through to the final. Which I'm guessing must mean she topped the public vote.

The other interesting thing was that Danny, who has been consistently overmarked, clearly doesn't have quite the public support we might have thought. Which makes Louise look like the one to beat, not him.

As for all the FMs peddling the conspiracy theory of 'BBC bias' … pur-lease. They may not want Ore in the final, but they have zero evidence to back up their case. Ore presented This Morning recently … so how that even makes him a 'BBC star' is beyond me.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:26
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My mum and I have been watching Strictly for years and have always knew it was fairly micromanaged down to the tee with costumes, themes, music, choreography etc. You only have to take a look at what Tristan has said about it and why he never wanted to return.

But this weekend was really disappointing in terms of overmarking and undermarking. I was a big fan of Claudia and really like Danny and you can accept your favourites going out or being in B2 or the DO if it is done on merit but I really feel they didn't deserve to be there. Claudia in particular should have been higher on the leaderboard.

It just leaves a really bad taste in the mouth for a show that markets itself as being inclusive, family-oriented and obviously a product of the BBC.

If next year is just as blatant I think they may start to lose viewers.
This year was absolutely nothing compared to SCD6. I'm sure the Daily Heil will be quoting you in their 'article' about how 'Strictly is fixed', though …
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:31
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No, but I'm glad the whingers are going to leave us alone maybe the adults can have a proper conversation then.
Do all Adults Bait other f/m's or is it just you.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:58
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I will still watch it but the whole thing has left a nasty taste.

BBC Strictly twitter account has been inundated with blatant fix, Clifton favouritism tweets.

katydee69 ‏@katydee69 · 17h17 hours ago

The Cliftons in tears on the sofa. Since when did it become about the bloody professionals. Bloody hope Danny wins #Strictly


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Old 12-12-2016, 12:58
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The thing about Strictly is - the judges can keep someone in the competition in the early stages by putting them at the top of the leaderboard. If someone has at least a small amount of public support then that ability to keep them in is extended further through the show.

However, I believe it is always possible for the public to save their favourite. The problem is, different people have different favourites.

There is bias, certainly. My view was that they have been trying to get Claudia out for weeks with dodgy music choices and setting, but had then accepted that she would probably make the final - and indeed, wanted her there for a spectacular show dance!

Because - going by their comments - I am pretty sure that they expected Ore and Louise in the bottom two. Those two got nicer comments, and they generally like someone to leave on a high. Critical remarks are given to spur the public on to vote for the person - or, when they feel that the person is so good (Danny) that they need to make it look like it's not a foregone conclusion.

Pretty sure that Louise and Kevin expected to be in the bottom two as well! I think the results were a surprise to cast and production alike.

It's a shame to see Claudia go. Personally, I thought she was better than Louise. But, as I've said elsewhere, I'd have voted Ed to win if he'd still been in the competition, so I'm not going to argue with viewers who want to see Louise take home the glitterball.

My favourite was Ed, I like all three remaining couples, I don't really care who wins. I have no idea who I will be voting for! It will depend on which dances they pick and how they perform them, and if they pull anything particularly good off for their showdance.
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Old 12-12-2016, 13:43
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I won't watch the final.

All three couples that are left in are a little 'meh' to me, and frankly I do not care who wins.
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Old 12-12-2016, 13:46
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I won't watch the final.

All three couples that are left in are a little 'meh' to me, and frankly I do not care who wins.
Ditto.
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:05
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I won't watch the final.

All three couples that are left in are a little 'meh' to me, and frankly I do not care who wins.
Ditto here too. I probably won't watch or vote.
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Old 12-12-2016, 14:10
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I will watch the final but Ore being there is going to spoil it for me. A bit like Katie Derham last year. I hope they kick him out first and he comes third. Blatant manipulation to get him into the final. A great shame.
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