I will post what I want to, you give it a rest with the sour grapes.

Oh come on...you can't compare him to Peter Andre. Ore is an exciting, passionate dancer. None have them have been perfect, they never are, yet 9 & 10s are dished out like smarties. As for a stumble, the judges have said time and again that as long as someone recovers immediately and it doesn't effect their dancing then they won't penalize them.
Claudia was over marked for her rumba and I suspect Danny and Louise were over marked. In the semi the judges are always a little kinder.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. If there had been one scintilla to prove Ore HAD previous dance experience I'm sure it would have come to light by now.

'Tis the season of goodwill. Try and find some in yourself.

I am upset because my favourite should be in the final. I don't care if it was or wasn't as bad as series 6, it is still wrong.

Claudia was undermarked and Ore was overmarked and I stand by this.

Please cut out the Sour Grapes rubbish it is not clever and not warranted.

#Austinwozrobbed

Might even get that inscribed on my tombstone....

no. they are all good dancers and i don't particularly dislike any of them.

i would have liked claudia in there too of course, and i still blame will young for messing up the system that would have given us a 4 person final (and wouldn't have included him )

Again just your opinion that the judges manipulated him there. Opinion is all you have, not any fact. We all have opinions and are entitled to express them (especially when our favourites get the boot, it seems), but they are not facts. The Strictly viewing/voting public also helped put him in the final. they could have ensured Ore was in the dance off if they wanted to. They didn't.
I'm guessing Ore would have won a dance off with Claudia on merit as he probably would have danced better (my opinion).

Insulting me is nothing to do with the show.

No. But claiming Ore has past dance experience when he's specifically said he hasn't is provoking other FMs. And I don't actually see any insults there at all.

Why would Ore lie about it when he could easily be found out, in any case? I love a good conspiracy theory, but I'm afraid that isn't one of them …

Opinions is all I have oh dear that is why I have been on here for years giving my opinion that is what you do on a discussion forum perhaps through time you will appreciate that.

What this means is:

my favourite got the boot therefore the judges are hideously biased and have manipulated and fixed the result because my favourite got the boot
I understand your disappointment that Claudia was voted off. I would be if I was a big fan.

I never claimed he had previous experience I merely said no one knows if has had or not.

Yes of course we all exchange opinions, but you seem to treat your opinions (e.g. about judges manipulation) as if they are facts. . Please appreciate that they are not facts.

Well said, Servalan.

Firstly I have to say nobody is more biased than the public.
Everybody looks at both the celebrities and the pros with different eyes. Not everybody votes for the same reasons and even those that do vote for the same reasons may have differences of opinion. Especially on a forum like this I tend to find people are ardent, staunch supporters of a particular couple and obviously express their disappointment at perceived injustice to their favourite more so than they would other peoples favourites.
Often it turns into an argument that their favourite has been underscored and a threat to their continued survival in the series is overscored and a judges favourite.
I have heard it and read it all before. The whole thing is made a great big meal out of in all honesty. It happens every series. Claims of conspiracies, fixes and gerrymandering. Does it REALLY matter THAT MUCH?

I would venture to suggest not and my opinion for what it's worth is that on the basis of performance across the series the right three couples are in the final irrespective of allegations of overscoring and underscoring to A or B or C or D. I therefore will watch the final with keen interest.
The semi final was a strange affair in my view.
It never really caught fire at all and to be honest I was struggling to think anybody anywhere near nailed BOTH dances which at this stage they should be getting much closer to doing.
So to Claudia. I liked her QS for sure. Was it a 10? In my view no but it has to be mind blowing for me to give any dance a 10. I have only given one 10 in the whole series.
But her Rumba was weak imo and over the series her dancing took too long to reach a point where I was really enjoying it.
She ended up in the bottom two. To be honest I was underwhelmed by all the couples overall in the semi and would not have been horrified by any bottom two combination.
Danny finishing in the bottom two is no disaster for him imo. The bottom two bounce is a possibility. The Claudia votes may well transfer to Danny especially if the feeling is the whole thing is fiddled for a Clifton to win.
And then there are the X Factor viewers. Will they watch and vote and who for?
Louise started off reasonably well, hit a plateau, raised it up a few notches but the semi final proved awkward for her. A Samba in a semi is a tough ask but it was a bit of a struggle.
She is a very elegant dancer however. Her expression through her arms is exquisite and she creates some gorgeous lines.
Ore hit the Jive for six but has been slightly up and down since. His AT featured a lot of posing and posturing but the dance element went a bit AWOL.
When he is on it he can be exceptional, when not it looks a bit of a battle but that is to be expected from a supposed 'non ringah'.

In spite of it all I believe the three couples left are the best and will produce a good final.
I wish them all well and offer comiserations to Claudia.
Losing out in a semi final is tough but she is young and will have infinitely more important sporting battles to win in Olympiads and championships to come.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and all that.

So why can't you believe him, when he categorically says he hasn't?

Where did I say they are facts in most cases I say imo. Please don't tell me how to post it not warranted and not acceptable.

So do you just want to perpetuate the notion that Ore is lying, when he could not have been clearer, or more public in stating explicitly that he's had no previous dance experience?

Because I can't see any other reason for making inflammatory comments like the one quoted above …

In the hope that if it's said long enough and loud enough someone will believe it?

Agree.

I think there is a lot of bitterness with this thread, with posters being upset that Claudia got voted off. The only thing I can compare it to is the bitterness I felt when Rachel Stevens got voted off whose partnership with Vincent I thought was fabulous.
With Rachel and Vincent, I really felt that I had lost all interest in SCD once they had gone. I am glad that I don't actually have a favourite this season, so I don't have to feel so disappointed.

But Rachel wasn't voted off in the same way Claudia was - she made it to the final and was there until the very end (so was runner-up).

Sickened is rather dramatic don't ya think !!!

I don't think you have to apologise. What you're saying is that the result was unfair (almost certainly rigged), and I'd agree. Nothing to do with favourites.