But Cameron understood.


‘I’ll pull UK out of the single market after Brexit’

He said the Brexit campaign had made it clear to voters that voting to leave also meant pulling out of the single market. The prime minister said he would accept the result as an “instruction”

http://www.politico.eu/article/david...equences-news/

Do you mean "incompatible"?

But why is the EU an organisation that is worthwhile of being a member of? Trade asides, what is the benefits of the EU?

Security? Nope. We have one of the worlds best armed services and intelligence services.
Safety? Nope. We have a nuclear deterrent and are members of NATO and have a seat on the UN security council/
Wealth? Nope. We already have an incredibly rigid and resiliant economy. Our wealth is what attracts EU migration and migration from other countries.
Culture? Nope. We couldn't be culturally different if we tried. We don't even celebrate Christmas on the same day.
Friendship? Nope. We all pretend that the EU are our best buddies when in reality we don't particularly understand them and their desires to be unilaterally as one and they don't understand us. It is only a membership of a club that is divisive that makes us 'friends'.

I just don't get what the EU is meant to be and why remainers are so in awe of it.

If you listen to Mrs May and the leaks around Mr Davis and ignore the other noise, which is just politicians and journalists liking the sound of their own voices, then the principles they are following are:

Take back control of immigration,
No compulsory ongoing payments to the EU,
Make our own laws.

They said this in August. They haven't changed their views. So its no prolonged Brexit, no membership of the single market, no FOM.

They believe that's where the votes are in 2020.

So I don't know what you are concerned about. While the decision makers are 'looking at all options' they haven't actually shifted at all. They will do whatever they think is best to get them votes in the next General Election.

48 counties.
If they all want £60 million a week, which they don't, then a few weeks @ £350m will sort that out.

Or maybe we should send our money to French farmers?


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Why do you say "the Leave vote didn't mean we'd have to be out of the single market" when everyone tells you that it did? You are in denial, I'm afraid.

Explain to me how we can leave the EU and still be in the SM.
The only way to achieve this is the Nick Clegg School of Explanation where you pretend to be out but carry on as if you're still in.

Exactly.
The only way the Tories can lose the next election is to backslide on Brexit.
Such a U-turn would cost them their overall majority at best with a coalition being the most likely outcome, and not necessarily with the Lib Dems. It might be with UKIP!

Worst case scenario, Labour gets in.

If that's what you want, that's what'll happen.

So Britain's wealth has nothing to do with it being part of the Single Market for the last 25 years, a 500m strong trading bloc? It would have done just as well as a North Korea type entity outside of Europe?

You are showing why referenda are a bad idea. There never was 350m in the first place.

You should have read the VoteLeave leaflet you voted for a bit better. Switzerland was given by them as an example.

It was indeed. Just as it claimed that Turkey IS joining the EU, which is one of the claims that the next court case will be about.

So how much do we commit to the EU?
I heard it's now £377 million a week.
If you say "ah, but we get a rebate", then why don't they reduce the contribution and tell us our payment should be £250m or £275m, or whatever? Why have a top-line figure?
Why do we get a rebate at all instead of setting a reduced contribution?
Answer:- our rebate isn't guaranteed and could be reduced or removed.

http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligenc...d-switzerland/

Quote:- "Switzerland and Norway have far higher levels of EU immigration than the UK as a proportion of their populations. If the UK had the same net EU immigration rate as Switzerland, it would mean nearly 400,000 more EU migrants a year."

With the country voting for control and reduced immigration, I still wait to hear how the government can 'leave the EU' and retain full membership of the SM.

Why? How could anyone possibly know how many who voted leave 'wouldn't mind' or 'wouldn't be against' still being in the EU? I for one would never be happy with staying in an organisation that would be absolutely catastrophic (understatement) for the UK in the long run.

Please explain how, thank you.

The rebate is how we set our reduced contribution. Which is all we commit to the EU.

And our rebate is guaranteed for longer then our contribution.

You voted for it, it was on the official VoteLeave leaflet.

I am looking forward immensely to a ConKip coalition. Unfortunately Farage will not be part of it so there goes the opportunity to see him taking responsibility for what he does.

This is the sort of rabid nonsense which has brought so much contempt on the Brexit cause.

If you want to talk rabid I would suggest you look back at your own posts.

Yes Cameron did.

All leave said was that Turkey could join. They had membership talks at the end of June. We have also spent 1.84 billion to help them join. What a waste of money eh.

The official VoteLeave leaflet said "The EU is expanding to include: Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Turkey"

No they did not. Go to their website. It's still available. It says Turkey IS joining on the website and it says Turkey is lined up to join along with 4 other countries in the leaflet.

Printed material doesn't lie I'm afraid.

It's one of the claims being investigated and which could bring criminal charges against several Leave people.

Exactly. And on the actual website (still available now) it says Turkey IS joining.