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Ken Clarke: Burnham becoming “a paler version of Nigel Farage”,
I bet he is feeling the burn(ham) this morning. I noticed on his Twitter age that Burnham is claiming his comments in Parliament last week on EU migrants are being misreported
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7468571.html Mr Clarke said: “Unlike Andy, going on about free movement of labour, sounding a bit like a paler version of Nigel Farage, Boris has never been anti-immigrant. Boris does realise that the economic interests of Britain are helped if we have free access to the biggest open market in the world.” Mr Burnham’s comments have also provoked a backlash from within his own party, with Lord Spencer Livermore warning Labour politicians should not indulge “the dangerous fantasy” that the UK is besieged by immigration through “extreme” pronouncements. He told The Guardian: “It just feels like the direction of travel at the moment is all in one direction, and Labour is lurching too far towards an anti-immigration position that hasn’t necessarily been thought through |
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Free movement of Labour which treats people as economic widgets is very different to immigration a very wide defition which gets mixed with refugees etc. Tedious filibustering chatter by Clarke, Andy Burnham has always had this view about free movement of Labour.
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Free movement of Labour which treats people as economic widgets is very different to immigration a very wide defition which gets mixed with refugees etc. Tedious filibustering chatter by Clarke, Andy Burnham has always had this view about free movement of Labour.
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I noticed on his Twitter page that Burnham is claiming his comments in Parliament last week on EU migrants are being misreported
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I bet he is feeling the burn(ham) this morning. I noticed on his Twitter age that Burnham is claiming his comments in Parliament last week on EU migrants are being misreported
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7468571.html Mr Clarke said: “Unlike Andy, going on about free movement of labour, sounding a bit like a paler version of Nigel Farage, Boris has never been anti-immigrant. Boris does realise that the economic interests of Britain are helped if we have free access to the biggest open market in the world.” Mr Burnham’s comments have also provoked a backlash from within his own party, with Lord Spencer Livermore warning Labour politicians should not indulge “the dangerous fantasy” that the UK is besieged by immigration through “extreme” pronouncements. He told The Guardian: “It just feels like the direction of travel at the moment is all in one direction, and Labour is lurching too far towards an anti-immigration position that hasn’t necessarily been thought through |
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His statements in Parliament were quite close to the bone I doubt even Farage would have said some of this
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I bet he is feeling the burn(ham) this morning. I noticed on his Twitter age that Burnham is claiming his comments in Parliament last week on EU migrants are being misreported
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7468571.html Mr Clarke said: “Unlike Andy, going on about free movement of labour, sounding a bit like a paler version of Nigel Farage, Boris has never been anti-immigrant. Boris does realise that the economic interests of Britain are helped if we have free access to the biggest open market in the world.” Mr Burnham’s comments have also provoked a backlash from within his own party, with Lord Spencer Livermore warning Labour politicians should not indulge “the dangerous fantasy” that the UK is besieged by immigration through “extreme” pronouncements. He told The Guardian: “It just feels like the direction of travel at the moment is all in one direction, and Labour is lurching too far towards an anti-immigration position that hasn’t necessarily been thought through Anything that Burnham says is to further his chances of becoming Mayor of Manchester. |
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Why can't Ken Clarke and those like him understand that wanting control over immigration doesn't mean you're anti immigrant. It just means you want control over the numbers coming in. Is that so bad?
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Anything that Burnham says is to further his chances of becoming Mayor of Manchester.
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Why can't Ken Clarke and those like him understand that wanting control over immigration doesn't mean you're anti immigrant. It just means you want control over the numbers coming in. Is that so bad?
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Anything that Burnham says is to further his chances of becoming Mayor of Manchester.
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He certainly seems to gave gone through a brain transplant over recent months as he tries to appeal to Northern Labour and hopes everyone forgets he was a central part of Metropolitan New Labour for many years.
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So as both main parties frantically chase the 13% of the public who care enough about this to vote UKIP (and the BNP before them), a massive gaping political hole appears to cater for the very large proportion of the country still repulsed by this grubby populism.
Meanwhile I'm not sure Mancunians will be too impressed at a Scouser dumbing down his policies in an attempt to curry favour with them -- does he think Mancs are stupid? |
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Same old stuff where people deliberately misrepresent that the ability to control immigration means being anti-immigration and that FoM is necessary for immigration from the EU. Clarke is guilty of what he accuses Burnham and Farage of.
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So as both main parties frantically chase the 13% of the public who care enough about this to vote UKIP (and the BNP before them), a massive gaping political hole appears to cater for the very large proportion of the country still repulsed by this grubby populism.
Meanwhile I'm not sure Mancunians will be too impressed at a Scouser dumbing down his policies in an attempt to curry favour with them -- does he think Mancs are stupid?
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None of the negative Impacts affect Ken Clarke who can afford to buy himself out of needing public services and I am sure has several very nice houses paid for by his tobacco company directorships.
The man has made a lot of money out of supplying products that kill people. |
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Anything that Burnham says is to further his chances of becoming Mayor of Manchester.
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None of the negative Impacts affect Ken Clarke who can afford to buy himself out of needing public services and I am sure has several very nice houses paid for by his tobacco company directorships.
The man has made a lot of money out of supplying products that kill people. He is an unpleasant individual who has made a good living out of a product that kills thousands of people every day, a man with no moral code whatsoever. |
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Mayor of Greater Manchester, to be precise. The city of Manchester has an unelected Lord Mayor.
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Councilors are elected and so therefore is the Lord Mayor.
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Clarke is a supercilious **** who so aptly fits the description of "up his own arse" it might have been created for him.
He is an unpleasant individual who has made a good living out of a product that kills thousands of people every day, a man with no moral code whatsoever. |
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OFGS, why doesn't Ken Clark just **** off and join the Libtard Undemocrats
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Oh thank you, I thought I was the only one in the UK who thought this! Can't his constituents see this or are they all like him??? Please Ken Clarke constituents - BOOT HIM OUT
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Sorry I love Ken Clarke. He has his opinions and beliefs and is prepared to stand up for them. He defied Tory whip to vote against Iraq. He is a Europhile. He'd be a hypocrite of the first order if he changed his opinion now. He's representing his constituents views anyway. He has been very important in electioneering in East Midlands marginals over many years. Those constituencies aren't won at the right or left but in the centre.
As for Andy Burnham a prime example of a conviction free politician. Says whatever he needs to / jumps on whatever bandwagon is passing. It's about him and furthering his career. |
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As for Andy Burnham a prime example of a conviction free politician. Says whatever he needs to / jumps on whatever bandwagon is passing. It's about him and furthering his career.
As I said, another grubby populist. |
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Anything that Burnham says is to further his chances of becoming Mayor of Manchester.
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I think the point is that Burnham is putting the boot in to EU migrants to find favour with the large number of people who would benefit from stricter or less EU migration.
He's NOT putting the boot in to the migrants themselves. He's putting the boot into the system that won't allow us to control immigration from EU countries. This is what Farage is always accused of - having a go at foreigners when all he wants to do is get immigration down to an acceptable level, a level that doesn't put mass pressure on public services and doesn't change the feel of communities. |
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