As I tried, countless times, to explain over the last few months, just to be shot down by hardline Brexiters, falling back on WTO rules in case of hard Brexit is difficult.

Finally here's proof - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7468766.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/237786...k-wto-accesss/

Any and all schedules we propose to trade under need unanimous agreement from all 160 WTO members. Kind of puts the EU negotiation into a different light... after all that's only 27 countries

It's OK, we can trade with Greenland, that old fort called Sealand and South Georgia. No worries, none of them have a poor human rights history either.

Yes I guess the best option, to be entirely sovereign and free, might be to hold a referendum on WTO membership. Let's show them that we can do it all on our own. They need us more than we need them.

I don't remember seeing anything other than people constantly referring to it as the basic default backstop, with little - if any - mention of the possibility of rejection or any special conditions (other than 'WTO terms', obv.) at all except our seat which was the thing which I think did get called into question as regards whether we still had it?

Oh yes!!!!
Rule Britannia!!!!

Iirc we heard all this before which is of course not unusual.

We are already in the WTO. The worst case scenario would be sanctions and compensation payments for having incorrect tariffs and quotas.

Prior to the brexit the WTO was trying to take a hardline. Since then, they have retreated from that position.

A good article, that isn't tabloid trash, can be found here.
http://www.eureferendum.com/document...nograph008.pdf

How did I know this would be yet another remoaner article in the Independent.

No wonder it had to go online and dropped its print edition- who would want to pay £1 a day for this endless drivel.

By all means follow the link to the Sun

Nice try to deflect. No one is saying we are not members.

The fact remains any and all of our proposed schedules need unanimous approval of all members.

The WTO doesn't make the calls. The members do.

But hey of course we could always break all rules and use the money we won't save by leaving the EU to pay the fines.

Good proof that its not true.
Brexiteer gold, yet again.

I think you don't understand.

We can make our own schedules and put them in place. WTO members can then object to these and go to the WTO council and ask for a judgement in their favour, compensation and sanctions.

As we are a WTO member trading under WTO isn't a problem but trading legally within the correct tariffs and quotas.

The same problem will affect the EU once we leave as they have tariffs and quotas linked to our membership.

I don't think you understand how the WTO works with regards to current members, rather than States applying.

There are also countless emergency measures that the WTO council can put in place to make sure there will be a smooth running.

Whale meat again, don't know where don't know when...

You mean their story about the evil Argentinians stopping Brexit!

They almost as predictable as the Indy.

Superb!

I think your comprehension skills are clouded by your ever apparent attempts to prove simplicity for all things Brexit.

Really simple - applying non-approved schedules means fines. In the normal process any proposed schedules are either approved or rejected approved by all WTO members in order to avoid the non-smooth running of trade and subsequent fines.

No fines but compensation if the WTO council agrees. Which means that we can trade under WTO rules, set our tariffs and continue to do so until the WTO council decide that the tariffs we have chosen are wrong.

At which point they can ask us to change our tariffs and impose compensation to countries who have been affected and/or sanctions.

There is also a raft of rules in place for emergency measures which can be invoked so special circumstances (which I'm sure this would be one).

It must be so frustrating to be sitting in your ivory tower trying to educate the ignorant oiks on this forum. What would they do without your painstaking patience?

This one has done the rounds several times in the last six months.

The conclusion from those that are in a position to know is yes it could be a problem, but no it isn't likely to be, and even if it is it only means small fines for a short time.

It was all rehearsed in front of the Treasury Select committee in July and the conclusion reached that they had far more important and likely things to spend their time on.

Its a problem only for those that want there to be problems.

Carry on trading, regardless. Much as we do with the 160 or so states that aren't in the EU.

So if I want to import/export stuff, I contract per GATT, Marrakesh, Uruguay or even Doha terms. As long as contracts are agreed, and import/export paperwork is in order, it's BAU. If by some chance I end up with a monopoly on say, jellied eels, then competitors or states are free to complain.

Basically as long as I trade per these principles-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...trading_system

it's all good. There's no need for unanimous agreement to my contract, or even UK terms unless there's some objection and it's out of line with Doha.. Which hasn't been agreed yet anyway.

How do you think countries like China and India can place up to 50% import Tariffs on cars?

Or the EU put 70% tariffs on some foods?

Do you think everybody agreed they should be allowed to do that?

Oh dear.

China - look up "tariffs safeguarding measures WTO".

The EU, being a free trading block, can apply whatever it likes as discussed several times on here.

What!! You mean we already trade with all those nations. I thought the evil EU stopped us doing that?

Snook Captain Mainwaring...........?

Yes, no long words there.