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Could Danny now be in trouble?
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Dragonlady 25
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“No, but that's not to say they shouldn't have - and if they want a 4 person final its as good a way as any to get one.”

They have no qualms about a 3 person final.
blueface2222
12-12-2016
No, similar to X Factor this week every week is on it's own. Danny or Louise will easily win. Ore should come third. I think Danny still stands the best chance winning this.
aggs
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dragonlady 25:
“They have no qualms about a 3 person final.”

Or a 2 - doesn't make it the best thing though
Ellie1967
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I'm not sure I buy the excuse of fans thinking Danny was safe. He was second on a leaderboard of four, that is not safe.”

I don't think it's a question of people thinking he was safe from the dance off, more that he would be saved whoever he was up against in it. There have been so many comments throughout the series saying the judges would never send him home whatever, so people may think why waste a vote? Weird attitude to have though as everyone said the same about Pixie until she got sent home. The voting may or may not have been completely different if the DO wasn't there as a safety net.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“I don't think it's a question of people thinking he was safe from the dance off, more that he would be saved whoever he was up against in it. There have been so many comments throughout the series saying the judges would never send him home whatever, so people may think why waste a vote? Weird attitude to have though as everyone said the same about Pixie until she got sent home. The voting may or may not have been completely different if the DO wasn't there as a safety net.”

I can buy that but had he been drawn against Ore, following his marks, no idea how they could have remotely made that look fair. Bit of a gamble.
Fudd
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I can buy that but had he been drawn against Ore, following his marks, no idea how they could have remotely made that look fair. Bit of a gamble.”

Ore's Argentine Tango
Craig: 9
Darcey: 10
Len: 10
Bruno: 10

Danny's American Smooth
Craig: 10
Darcey: 9
Len: 10
Bruno: 10

Craig prefers Danny, Darcey Ore. Len and Bruno gave both of them 10 so could lean either way.
Ellie1967
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I can buy that but had he been drawn against Ore, following his marks, no idea how they could have remotely made that look fair. Bit of a gamble.”

They both scored 39 for one of their dances, so if they were the ones they did in the DO the judges could have chosen whoever they liked. Not many people are seriously arguing that Ore is a better dancer overall than Danny so I don't think there would have been much complaint.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“They both scored 39 for one of their dances, so if they were the ones they did in the DO the judges could have chosen whoever they liked. Not many people are seriously arguing that Ore is a better dancer overall than Danny so I don't think there would have been much complaint.”

Good point, well made
aggs
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“They both scored 39 for one of their dances, so if they were the ones they did in the DO the judges could have chosen whoever they liked. Not many people are seriously arguing that Ore is a better dancer overall than Danny so I don't think there would have been much complaint.”

The outfits on the results show say Ore would have done AT and Louise tango, if called.
Fudd
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“The outfits on the results show say Ore would have done AT and Louise tango, if called.”

Not that the outfits were a sure sign for Tess.
issfan
12-12-2016
Louise should have gone last night but she obviously had a bigger following than Claudia so by giving Claudia the same marks meant Claudia slipped into the bottom two. I am not a fan of Claudia but she deserved more marks than Louise last night. Ties on the leader. Lard are always suspicious. Many people seemed annoyed that Ore was top of the leader board which kept him safe and resulted in Danny being in the bottom two. Lots of people annoyed Danny was in the bottom 2 so they will vote for him next week. Many people thought Danny was the only one guaranteed a place in the final which was right of course so didn't bother to vote. They will vote this week. I think Danny has a better chance of winning because of all the unfairness of the weekend's scoring/comments. That is why it happened. It has happened before and will happen again. The production team manipulate right to the end. They will get the winner they want.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Ore's Argentine Tango
Craig: 9
Darcey: 10
Len: 10
Bruno: 10

Danny's American Smooth
Craig: 10
Darcey: 9
Len: 10
Bruno: 10

Craig prefers Danny, Darcey Ore. Len and Bruno gave both of them 10 so could lean either way.”

I got befuddled! They could have still carried Danny on that quite fairly.
Bless You
12-12-2016
Doubtful, I think he will win.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by issfan:
“Louise should have gone last night but she obviously had a bigger following than Claudia so by giving Claudia the same marks meant Claudia slipped into the bottom two. I am not a fan of Claudia but she deserved more marks than Louise last night. Ties on the leader. Lard are always suspicious. Many people seemed annoyed that Ore was top of the leader board which kept him safe and resulted in Danny being in the bottom two. Lots of people annoyed Danny was in the bottom 2 so they will vote for him next week. Many people thought Danny was the only one guaranteed a place in the final which was right of course so didn't bother to vote. They will vote this week. I think Danny has a better chance of winning because of all the unfairness of the weekend's scoring/comments. That is why it happened. It has happened before and will happen again. The production team manipulate right to the end. They will get the winner they want.”

Claudia did a pedestrian Rhumba, Louise did a mediocre samba that at least had more technical merit if not great. Yes Claudia's QS beat Louise's Tango but a tie seems pretty fair to me.
Gary Baldi
12-12-2016
I'd guess everyone here is greatly under-estimating Louise's popularity with the Strictly viewing public.
I think she is far more likely to win than Danny.
Domestos
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gary Baldi:
“I'd guess everyone is greatly under-estimating Louise's popularity with the Strictly viewing public.
I think she is far more likely to win than Danny.”

I doubt it but if it happens, fair enough, it's up to the public.

More than anything I wanted her in the final, mainly because I like her and her dancing, but also because of the crap they get on here from a lot. She did and I am delighted, she doesn't need to win in my eyes now.
crannyfaddock
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hamlet77:
“Yes Danny is in trouble because the judges blatent overmarking will not affect the overall result.”

Quite

I really don't see any bias towards Danny TBH.
If anything, I think the judges have expected more from him and have marked more harshly.
The guy is a great dancer, he can't help that, you can't knock him for trying his best or that he was chosen by the programme to participate.
I have thought Louise and Ore have been over marked a few times but I don't hate them and as I am only an armchair judge what do I know.
I personally have no issue with different levels of talent on the show, I just like to watch someone who I find entertaining be it Julian Cleary or Kara Tointon.
Rebel Hamster
12-12-2016
Of course Danny is not in trouble. It was pretty obvious he was going to be in the dance off, not because he is bad in any way but it was the only way of justifying getting rid of Claudia. It was clearly fixed for Danny and Claudia to be in the dance off so it was a dead cert for Danny to go through.

I'm sure Danny will go on to win the competition.
daniellejayne
12-12-2016
From what I've seen online, here and otherwise, the backlash will be against Ore and not Danny.
FusionFury
12-12-2016
He ain't getting near the Glitter Ball - James Jordan said so. He is very unpopular.

Wholesome Louise and Ore's "Journey" are more popular.
Monkseal
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Rebel Hamster:
“Of course Danny is not in trouble. It was pretty obvious he was going to be in the dance off, not because he is bad in any way but it was the only way of justifying getting rid of Claudia. It was clearly fixed for Danny and Claudia to be in the dance off so it was a dead cert for Danny to go through.

I'm sure Danny will go on to win the competition.”

This conspiracy theory hinges on the producers being able to rely on Danny getting fewer public votes than both Ore and Louise before a step is even danced, with Louise in a poor performance slot with rubbish music choices. If they can rely on that, such to hinge the entire progression of the show on it, he ain't winning jack.
LoracShakti
12-12-2016
I think a lot of people thought others would vote for Danny and then voted like mad to keep in the person they thought deserved to be in the final alongside Danny and one other. I suspect Danny will pick up a fair few votes next week from Claudia voters who are still watching and voting. Both Ore and Louise have their core blocks but so does Danny and I think the voting is pretty close. I will vote for either Ore or Danny - which ever one wows me. Still not getting Louise or her journey as a 'shy housewife regaining her confidence' as some have mentioned. She was in a girl group for goodness sake and has a lot of confidence and has had since before SCD.
jtnorth
12-12-2016
I don't think he can win unless Joanne and Kevin lose their minds in the final, and while I don't personally like Kevin's choreography, it is more likely that Oti will throw the kitchen sink at the dances than anyone else will, so I don't really see that.

I also can't help wondering if being a footballer's wife is a positive and there are loads of football fans voting - that might be unfair but I honestly can't understand Louise's appeal. Why would Louise win and Frankie not, just as for one example?

I think Louise will win. I have generally thought she was doing a lot better than people on here thought as everyone I know is voting for Louise, and Danny has the favourite who doesn't win written all over him. Plus I think she works as a compromise if you don't like Danny's training and Ore's emotion. It could be Ore if the BBC really do promote him hard - Breakfast TV can't be underestimated - but I think they will run shy of doing that too much. I think the semi-final was probably Ore's moment and the final will be Louise's. And then Danny will go on to dance in the West End.
who me?
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“He ain't getting near the Glitter Ball - James Jordan said so. He is very unpopular.

Wholesome Louise and Ore's "Journey" are more popular.”

What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still (can't remember his exact words) but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.
aggs
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by who me?:
“What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.”

Buy a lamp post for the lounge. That should do it.
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