Originally Posted by aggs:
“Buy a lamp post for the lounge. That should do it.
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“Buy a lamp post for the lounge. That should do it.
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I'll put it on my Christmas list.
Could Danny now be in trouble?
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Originally Posted by TLC1098:
“People obviously thought Danny was safe so didnt bother voting.
I will say that it still baffles me that Louise who was the weakest on Saturday made it to the final no problem while 2 dancers who were better than her were put in danger.
The voting system really is strange at times.”
“People obviously thought Danny was safe so didnt bother voting.
I will say that it still baffles me that Louise who was the weakest on Saturday made it to the final no problem while 2 dancers who were better than her were put in danger.
The voting system really is strange at times.”
Me too. That salsa/samba/whatever was week 2 bad, yet she got praised to the rafters for it! I don't understand why Ore is getting it in the neck for "overmarking" when Louise clearly benefitted due to one mediocre and one dreadful dance. Bear in mind, Louise has years of dance training, Ore has none.
Originally Posted by soapfan_1973:
“With judges scores no longer being counted in the final could we see the public vote going against Danny due to the perceived bias that the producers have wanted him to be the winner since day 1? I know there is a lot of upset about the D/O from this weekend and people saying Claudia was robbed of a space in the final but should it also be pointed out that anyone going up against Danny would have had the same result?
Will we see a voting backlash against Danny and Oti next weekend as people hope it may produce a different winner than the one they believe the producers already want?”
“With judges scores no longer being counted in the final could we see the public vote going against Danny due to the perceived bias that the producers have wanted him to be the winner since day 1? I know there is a lot of upset about the D/O from this weekend and people saying Claudia was robbed of a space in the final but should it also be pointed out that anyone going up against Danny would have had the same result?
Will we see a voting backlash against Danny and Oti next weekend as people hope it may produce a different winner than the one they believe the producers already want?”
How is giving the best dancer the best marks biased? It's what judges are supposed to do. Other than Hallowe'en week, in which weeks did you think he shouldn't have been 1st or 2nd on the leader board?
Originally Posted by who me?:
“What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still (can't remember his exact words) but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.
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“What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still (can't remember his exact words) but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.
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I think Danny peaked too early though, he become too good to quick and I think it hasn't helped him now as people assume he's already won and might not vote for him..
Louise gets away with it because she's very charming/British/wholesome and Redknapp's are national treasures have loads of fans.
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Alesha pitched up in the dance off in the 4 person semi final of series 5 - but still went on to win.
The difference between 'voting for who you want to win' versus 'vote for who you want to save from the dance off' is actually quite a big one.”
“Alesha pitched up in the dance off in the 4 person semi final of series 5 - but still went on to win.
The difference between 'voting for who you want to win' versus 'vote for who you want to save from the dance off' is actually quite a big one.”
^^Both comments.
And after wrestling with how to explain the second concept, I then find that someone got there before me, and put it far more succinctly and elegantly than I ever could
He'll still win.
The X-Factor vote will have an impact, and I would think Danny looks set to pick up a good chuck of what might be available there.
The X-Factor vote will have an impact, and I would think Danny looks set to pick up a good chuck of what might be available there.
I wonder if it might have the opposite affect that people will now vote more for Danny fearing he is in danger. I feel without Claudia I don't know who I want to win as Danny and Louise both had dancing experience and I haven't really voted for any of the three all series
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
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I think Danny peaked too early though, he become too good to quick and I think it hasn't helped him now as people assume he's already won and might not vote for him..
Louise gets away with it because she's very charming/British/wholesome and Redknapp's are national treasures have loads of fans.”
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I think Danny peaked too early though, he become too good to quick and I think it hasn't helped him now as people assume he's already won and might not vote for him..
Louise gets away with it because she's very charming/British/wholesome and Redknapp's are national treasures have loads of fans.”
In which case, landing in the bottom two in the semi final is just the right time to jolt complacent fans into voting for him.
Originally Posted by Lisa_Charlene:
“I wonder if it might have the opposite affect that people will now vote more for Danny fearing he is in danger. I feel without Claudia I don't know who I want to win as Danny and Louise both had dancing experience and I haven't really voted for any of the three all series”
“I wonder if it might have the opposite affect that people will now vote more for Danny fearing he is in danger. I feel without Claudia I don't know who I want to win as Danny and Louise both had dancing experience and I haven't really voted for any of the three all series”
You are the perfect floating voter then - it all rests on the show dance for you
Originally Posted by who me?:
“What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still (can't remember his exact words) but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.”
“What is Ore's journey though? He started off really good, natural talent, exuberance...peaked for me with the Singing in the Rain dance (loved that) and the jive. I can't think of a later dance I've enjoyed and wondered if the process was stifling what previously came naturally.
I know Bruno spoke regarding the AT saying how he glowered meaningfully and menacingly while standing still (can't remember his exact words) but quite frankly my hubby does that too whenever I leave the heating on too long. He doesn't lean on me while he does it though...maybe that's the difference.
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BIB- I honestly thought that was subtle shade from Bruno.
I mean liked the dance- and lots of male celeb ATs get the same criticism on DS of doing sod all while the female pro does everything- but it did feel that hidden within all of the Bruno-babble was a criticism.
I STILL can't really believe it was all down to people not voting for Danny because he was deemed 'safe'.
He wasn't safe at all, and thinking 'oh even if he's in the dance off, he won't get booted' was a HUGE risk.
I think he just didn't have the votes expected, simple as that.
Although as someone has said, he'll probably pick up a lot of votes from the X factor crowd on the final.
But then most wouldn't have even WATCHED Strictly, and they might watch the final, but I doubt they'd be serious long term fans who would all bother to vote, or bother to vote more than once, so 'shrugs'.
It certainly surprised me that Danny was in the DO, but interesting.
He wasn't safe at all, and thinking 'oh even if he's in the dance off, he won't get booted' was a HUGE risk.
I think he just didn't have the votes expected, simple as that.
Although as someone has said, he'll probably pick up a lot of votes from the X factor crowd on the final.
But then most wouldn't have even WATCHED Strictly, and they might watch the final, but I doubt they'd be serious long term fans who would all bother to vote, or bother to vote more than once, so 'shrugs'.
It certainly surprised me that Danny was in the DO, but interesting.
I think Danny has the weakest personality out of the remaining celebs. And on a personal note, his awful scratchy voice gets on my tits.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I STILL can't really believe it was all down to people not voting for Danny because he was deemed 'safe'.
He wasn't safe at all, and thinking 'oh even if he's in the dance off, he won't get booted' was a HUGE risk.
I think he just didn't have the votes expected, simple as that.
Although as someone has said, he'll probably pick up a lot of votes from the X factor crowd on the final.
But then most wouldn't have even WATCHED Strictly, and they might watch the final, but I doubt they'd be serious long term fans who would all bother to vote, or bother to vote more than once, so 'shrugs'.
It certainly surprised me that Danny was in the DO, but interesting.”
“I STILL can't really believe it was all down to people not voting for Danny because he was deemed 'safe'.
He wasn't safe at all, and thinking 'oh even if he's in the dance off, he won't get booted' was a HUGE risk.
I think he just didn't have the votes expected, simple as that.
Although as someone has said, he'll probably pick up a lot of votes from the X factor crowd on the final.
But then most wouldn't have even WATCHED Strictly, and they might watch the final, but I doubt they'd be serious long term fans who would all bother to vote, or bother to vote more than once, so 'shrugs'.
It certainly surprised me that Danny was in the DO, but interesting.”
I think it's that there are many factors. The internet always wants a binary choice and never any shades of grey.
Danny is my favourite - although I get less worked up about such things than most people who have favourites, it seems! I don't really care if he wins or not - he's made it to the final so I'll have seen the most dances possible from him.
I haven't voted for him once yet. It's always been pointless because the judges would have put him through in any dance off so it didn't matter if he was in one or not. I voted for Cloudier on Saturday because I'd have liked to have seen her in the final and it was pretty clear she would go in a dance off against any of the others.And it also seemed fairly clear that the judges - not in a conspiracy theory way, just in their own preference way - had created a leader board in which Cloudier would almost certainly be in the dance off. In all the other weeks I also voted for the competitor I liked most who was also vulnerable to a dance off elimination.
But I do think Saturday has shown that Danny has less support than we thought and Louise has considerably more.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I think Danny has the weakest personality out of the remaining celebs. And on a personal note, his awful scratchy voice gets on my tits.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.”
“I think Danny has the weakest personality out of the remaining celebs. And on a personal note, his awful scratchy voice gets on my tits.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.”
Yep- that was certainly a widely held belief on the board, and indeed every year, and yet still next year there'll be those wailing "Oh there's no point watching, it's so-o-o-o-o obvious [X] is going to win!"
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I think Danny has the weakest personality out of the remaining celebs. And on a personal note, his awful scratchy voice gets on my tits.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.”
“I think Danny has the weakest personality out of the remaining celebs. And on a personal note, his awful scratchy voice gets on my tits.
Ore's personality is marmite but at least it's something to get your teeth into. Louise isn't far off Danny in terms of spewing out dull pleasantries week after week, but she's a little more demure and natural about it.
I was happy Danny was in the dance-off because it's opened things up a bit, I thought he was steamrolling to the end right from the first week. Now I'd feel surprised at any winner - Danny pulling back voters a week after being below the other two, Louise's fanbase being so strong throughout, or underestimated Ore surprising everyone.”
Completely agree with all this.
Makes it a bit more interesting.
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
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BIB- I honestly thought that was subtle shade from Bruno.
I mean liked the dance- and lots of male celeb ATs get the same criticism on DS of doing sod all while the female pro does everything- but it did feel that hidden within all of the Bruno-babble was a criticism.”
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BIB- I honestly thought that was subtle shade from Bruno.
I mean liked the dance- and lots of male celeb ATs get the same criticism on DS of doing sod all while the female pro does everything- but it did feel that hidden within all of the Bruno-babble was a criticism.”
In that case, he shouldn't have given it a 10
It could be that people (rightly) thought that Danny would win the DO against anybody and tried to save somebody else.
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“It could be that people (rightly) thought that Danny would win the DO against anybody and tried to save somebody else.”
“It could be that people (rightly) thought that Danny would win the DO against anybody and tried to save somebody else.”
That's the straw most of his fans are clutching, certainly
Its not so cut and dried as a week ago that's for sure, it makes it interesting.
I still think that he's the favourite and he still has quite a lot going for him but there is a chink in his armour for the sake of a competitive final its great.
I still think that he's the favourite and he still has quite a lot going for him but there is a chink in his armour for the sake of a competitive final its great.
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“It could be that people (rightly) thought that Danny would win the DO against anybody and tried to save somebody else.”
“It could be that people (rightly) thought that Danny would win the DO against anybody and tried to save somebody else.”
Yes, quite a few on here said they were giving their votes to Claudia because of the appalling judging.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“That's the straw most of his fans are clutching, certainly”
“That's the straw most of his fans are clutching, certainly”
I see it as a possibility, anyway, if he doesn't win I'll be upset whole five minutes
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Alesha pitched up in the dance off in the 4 person semi final of series 5 - but still went on to win.
The difference between 'voting for who you want to win' versus 'vote for who you want to save from the dance off' is actually quite a big one.”
“Alesha pitched up in the dance off in the 4 person semi final of series 5 - but still went on to win.
The difference between 'voting for who you want to win' versus 'vote for who you want to save from the dance off' is actually quite a big one.”
Interesting point!
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I see it as a possibility, anyway, if he doesn't win I'll be upset whole five minutes”
“I see it as a possibility, anyway, if he doesn't win I'll be upset whole five minutes
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Perhaps there was some complacency, must have been a HELL of a lot of it though, to put him in the DO. And willing to take a real risk.
Mmmmmm, I think it's possible they thought Danny was far, far more popular than he is I suppose.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Perhaps there was some complacency, must have been a HELL of a lot of it though, to put him in the DO. And willing to take a real risk.
Mmmmmm, I think it's possible they thought Danny was far, far more popular than he is I suppose.”
“Perhaps there was some complacency, must have been a HELL of a lot of it though, to put him in the DO. And willing to take a real risk.
Mmmmmm, I think it's possible they thought Danny was far, far more popular than he is I suppose.”
I agree with this. I think Danny and Oti were thought to be untouchable, and indeed Oti was shocked they were in the d/o. Now they know they are not as popular as they thought, and the public know that their votes actually make a difference.
There are a lot of people (including myself) who feel Danny came into the show a little too accomplished. I know he has never had ballroom training but he definitely came in with a distinct advantage as did Louise. The GBP have a sense of fair play and love an underdog and may well transfer their Claudia votes to the only one left who has has no dance training.
Personally I think the Clifton-loving producers have shot themselves in the foot, because them getting rid of Claudia has meant her fans are now going to vote for Danny due to the perceived overmarking/preferential treatment of Ore and Louise.
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