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Would Labour Jump Into Bed With UKIP If It Guaranteed Them To Be In Power In 2020?
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voteout
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Yeah... UKIP are already attracting the racists who had previously voted Labour and now have an outlet with UKIP.”

With that being the case it's probably for the best that Labour don't get in again until they've got rid of the problem.

Any party that is a repository for closet racists is better off turfing them out of the closet and into the arms of someone else.
Blockz99
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“I suppose what you are saying is that Labour still has morals. The Lib Dems lost them in 2010, The Tories have never had them and UKIP doesn't understand the concept.”

If by morals you mean a leader that takes money from a repressive regime with appalling human rights records then yes labour do have morals I suppose.
smudges dad
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blockz99:
“If by morals you mean a leader that takes money from a repressive regime with appalling human rights records then yes labour do have morals I suppose.”

Are you talking about Saudi Arabia?
OLD HIPPY GUY
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Really... and yet I, apparently a Labour supporter, didn;t believe a word of it... and you got all passionate about supporting him and the war. Got to wonder what happened to the critical faculties on that one Martin?

Anthing you like... I could do with some new screwdrivers.”

I marched against it, while the support from the Tories was almost unanimous.
1Mickey
13-12-2016
In answer to the original question, no because the views are too far apart and i honestly don't believe Corbyn wants to be prime minister, he's more suited to leading protests.
rusty123
13-12-2016
Labour getting into bed with UKIP is about as likely as Bobby Charlton taking over from Wayne Rooney as the next England captain.

Actually.... thinking about it make that Bobby Moore.
Blockz99
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“Are you talking about Saudi Arabia?”

No I'm talking about the £20,000 blood money Corbyn took from the Iranian government to spout anti-Western rhetoric on their national TV station . money from an opressiv regime that has appalling human rights, hang 16-year-old boys from cranes for being gay etc. Corbyn has no moral compass .
As for your attempt at the deflection re Saudi Arabia - I I strongly criticise the Tories and all their leaders over the years for the money that they get in trade of arms with this deplorable backward brutal regime . This is one of the reasons I wouldn't vote for them .

can you condemn in the same manner Corbyn or are you like Corbyn and a lot of the new left only interested in using human rights when it suits you ?
jjwales
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by johhn:
“One of the reasons that Ed Miliband lost is that the voters don't like the idea labour had to follow instructions from SNP.”

I'm not sure where that idea came from.
VicnBob
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blockz99:
“No I'm talking about the £20,000 blood money Corbyn took from the Iranian government to spout anti-Western rhetoric on their national TV station . money from an opressiv regime that has appalling human rights, hang 16-year-old boys from cranes for being gay etc. Corbyn has no moral compass .
As for your attempt at the deflection re Saudi Arabia - I I strongly criticise the Tories and all their leaders over the years for the money that they get in trade of arms with this deplorable backward brutal regime . This is one of the reasons I wouldn't vote for them .

can you condemn in the same manner Corbyn or are you like Corbyn and a lot of the new left only interested in using human rights when it suits you ?”

The largest trade deal with SA was whilst the last Labour government were in power. So you may have to swing your alliance to another party.
johhn
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by jjwales:
“I'm not sure where that idea came from.”

I remembered Ed was questioned several times whether he would form a coalition government with SNP to beat Con, he had to firmly dismiss the possibility as he understood that the English voters would hate to see labour giving in to Sturgen's ever increasing political and financial demands in exchange for the shared power in parliament.
Blockz99
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by VicnBob:
“The largest trade deal with SA was whilst the last Labour government were in power. So you may have to swing your alliance to another party.”

Where did I say I was a Labour supporter?
smudges dad
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blockz99:
“Where did I say I was a Labour supporter?”

If you criticise the Tories in any way, some people think you must be a Labour supporter because they can't imagine anything apart from a Labour / Conservative battle, even though they barely got 2/3 of the vote in the GE.
platelet
17-12-2016
According to reports in the Huff Post and Guardian Labour are preparing to "relaunch" Jerry as a leftwing populist in the new year, as the party seeks to ride the anti-politics mood in Brexit Britain.

The idea I guess being he can steal Farage's anti-establishment thunder without upsetting DIane's plans for an infinite stream of immigrant Labour voters

This will (apparently) involve him actually giving TV interviews rather than just twittering to Canaries. I'm not sure how his embracing MSM will go down with the cultists of course - but it's a bold move to intentionally expose himself to the harassment typically inflicted by BBC journalists. I for one can't wait to hear him go head to head with Andrew Neal or Laura.

It's a shame no one bothered to give Tom Watson the heads up mind
Mark_Jones13
17-12-2016
Never. Going. To. Happen.
johnny_boi_UK
17-12-2016
I cannot imagine corbyn would do it.
Happ Hazzard
17-12-2016
Labour are in big trouble. They are trying to accommodate too many disparate groups (working-class northerners and midlanders, immigrants, middle-class liberals) and these groups are diametrically opposed to each other. They are going to lose significant numbers of seats in 2020, with Corbyn or with anyone else at the helm.
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