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Old 13-12-2016, 15:36
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I always liked Gab Marcotti, don't know if anyone still uses him. On the other side, Sky have an occasional habit of using print journalists who aren't much better than Robbie Savage, with the main difference being they definitely know how to write.
I would not go that far. Maybe in block capitals but joined up writing?
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:36
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In the last few years, the over exposure of some of our written journos has removed the aura that they used to have, for me at least, of great insight and sagacity (??!)....Some of the tweets by the likes of Paul Haywards and Henry winter are student journoesque in terms of their insight..

Marcotti is excellent... Don't hear him much now, but I don't listen to talksport
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:39
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He's alright, but I remember going off him for some reason that completely escapes me.

James Richardson is all-time king of the hill, although a presenter by trade he's got a keen sense of the game.

While veering slightly off-course I'm also a big 'Chappers' fan, he's one of those presenters that comes across as a complete natural even when flirting with the beefcakes on the NFL roundup.
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:40
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Phillipe Auclair and Tim Vickery are very good.
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:44
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Vickery is as good as they come, Marcotti could have got a bit too big for his boots in recent times.

Richardson sipping his espresso at a cafe outside the San Siro was the next des Lytham, when it comes to smooth... He does a weekly football podcast. Can't remember for who
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:46
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In the last few years, the over exposure of some of our written journos has removed the aura that they used to have, for me at least, of great insight and sagacity (??!)....Some of the tweets by the likes of Paul Haywards and Henry winter are student journoesque in terms of their insight..

Marcotti is excellent... Don't hear him much now, but I don't listen to talksport
Written journalists are poorly educated hacks these days, they have no insight, no skill, and most are thoroughly dislikable. Having them on tv and radio broadcasts did expose them for what they really are.

Student journalism sums it up perfectly.
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Old 13-12-2016, 15:52
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Vickery is as good as they come, Marcotti could have got a bit too big for his boots in recent times.

Richardson sipping his espresso at a cafe outside the San Siro was the next des Lytham, when it comes to smooth... He does a weekly football podcast. Can't remember for who
Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/football...footballweekly

When I went to Verona I did a tribute photo of me sat with an ice cream outside Piazza Bra with a copy of Gazzetta and he liked it. Pretty much all my ambitions fulfilled that day
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Old 13-12-2016, 16:17
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Marcotti still contributes on ESPNFC (the tv show, not just the website). the problem is, there never seems to be a fixed time for it. the audio of the show is released as a daily podcast too.

James Richardson really is the greatest though.
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Old 13-12-2016, 17:56
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Written journalists are poorly educated hacks these days, they have no insight, no skill, and most are thoroughly dislikable. Having them on tv and radio broadcasts did expose them for what they really are.

Student journalism sums it up perfectly.
Hey don't forget we have a sports journalist on here who was approached by Sky. He won't be happy with your meanie comments.
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:32
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Hey don't forget we have a sports journalist on here who was approached by Sky. He won't be happy with your meanie comments.
Who is that?
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:38
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I find it interesting that Neville's managerial career, however brief is thrown at him yet Carra who hasn't managed at all yet isn't questioned and referred to as a fan.

This is just a manager defending his players from the media, who have been critical of one his players. It's been pointed out else where I'm sure how similar in some ways this is of De Gea's first season in English football, the media also had a go at Schmeichel when he first came to United. The English game is still has more crosses and physical than mainland Europe and it takes time to adjust.

If Karius turns the corner, and is then praised by Neville for his improvement will Karius and Klopp say anything?? I doubt it, so as the saying goes, today's newspaper, tomorrows fish and chip paper.
Squid and chips, the way things are going. But I agree with all your main points. Neville's sacking has made him an easy target, yet half the pundits on TV are failed former managers or those who bottled putting their butts on the bacon-slicer instead of the studio couch. Carragher may or may not be a bottler but he went after Karius harder than Neville and got away with it not only from the player involved but the media as well.


Phillipe Auclair and Tim Vickery are very good.
Auclair is okay, a bit too try hard for me. But Vickery is excellent. Slightly off-topic, I really miss Jimmy Armfield as a co-commentator. He's battling cancer again unfortunately, so I don't think he'll be back.
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:44
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Batdude. He's a qualified journalist and almost worked for Sky Sports.
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:44
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Batdude. He's a qualified journalist and almost worked for Sky Sports.
LOL **** off!

Seriously, who is it?
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:50
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LOL **** off!

Seriously, who is it?
I shit you not!! Ask the man himself.
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:55
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Yes, it is true, I did my university degree and then got an offer from Sky Sports, but I had to turn them down, as other priorities took over at the time.
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Old 13-12-2016, 19:58
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Yes, it is true, I did my university degree and then got an offer from Sky Sports, but I had to turn them down, as other priorities took over at the time.
Why havent you re-applied to them?

Also, what was the actual offer? To be a journalist with them?
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:03
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Why havent you re-applied to them?

Also, what was the actual offer? To be a journalist with them?
Because my life since has taken me in a different direction, I no longer have the same sort of passion for that area of work I did at the time.
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:06
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Why havent you re-applied to them?

Also, what was the actual offer? To be a journalist with them?
he was going to be on "Game Changers"
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:12
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he was going to be on "Game Changers"
Was I??

Wish I had known about that.

Anyway, this is going a bit off of the topic.
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:15
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he was going to be on "Game Changers"
Its a shame though. Batdude could have been shagging Sarah Jayne Mee by now. I bet she'd love a bit Bat Lovin'
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:45
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What job did they offer you?
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:51
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I believe there was a discussion about Jurgen Klopp and the Neville brothers going on here and I thought I'd contribute, but it seems that everybody has got bored with talking about football and it's morphed into a careers resume..?

When my daughter is in full time school, I intend to go back to uni to take my Phd. I just thought you'd all like to know.


To summarise the topic though:

Klopp: Is right to defend his player.

G Neville: Is entitled to an opinion even if he was a rotten manager.

Carragher: Hasn't even tried to be a manager, because he's either chicken or (more likely) possesses a sound self-awareness of his abilities and is savvy enough to not overreach himself. Take your pick. He's entitled to an opinion too though. Which is what Sky pay him for.

Karius: Just do your job and answer the critics with your performances. If you can.

Overall: The whole nonsense is yet another trivial, petty, storm in a teacup which, frankly, is a matter of monumental unimportance to anything.
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Old 13-12-2016, 20:54
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I believe there was a discussion about Jurgen Klopp and the Neville brothers going on here and I thought I'd contribute, but it seems that everybody has got bored with talking about football and it's morphed into a careers resume..?

When my daughter is in full time school, I intend to go back to uni to take my Phd. I just thought you'd all like to know.


To summarise the topic though:

Klopp: Is right to defend his player.

G Neville: Is entitled to an opinion even if he was a rotten manager.

Carragher: Hasn't even tried to be a manager, because he's either chicken or (more likely) possesses a sound self-awareness of his abilities and is savvy enough to not overreach himself. Take your pick. He's entitled to an opinion too though. Which is what Sky pay him for.

Karius: Just do your job and answer the critics with your performances. If you can.

Overall: The whole nonsense is yet another trivial, petty, storm in a teacup which, frankly, is a matter of monumental unimportance to anything.
What will you do for your PHD?
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Old 13-12-2016, 21:57
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Auclair is okay, a bit too try hard for me. But Vickery is excellent. Slightly off-topic, I really miss Jimmy Armfield as a co-commentator. He's battling cancer again unfortunately, so I don't think he'll be back.
Jimmy Armfield is a real gent, was at a BBC Q&A session in Salford the other year, when it hosted Sports Personality. Jimmy was on the panel, and was so good with stories from his football career to friends in other sports. He also over heard that a couple of guys had come down from Blackpool for the event, and had come in a taxi. So invited them back with him in his taxi (paid by the BBC of course), to save them some money. Sweeping statement I know, but how many of today's lot would do that sort of thing.
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Old 13-12-2016, 22:20
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Think you can add tony cottee & Neil Mellor to that list as both said tonight unless Liverpool bring in a decent GK they won't be anywhere near winning title wonder if klopp
Knows cottee Everton connections
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