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Drivers who signal one thing and do another instead
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Ovalteenie
12-12-2016
Nearly had a crash today at a roundabout... Car coming round signalled to exit at my junction so I started to enter the roundabout, thinking he was going to turn off... but he carried on straight round and exited at the next junction instead!

Luckily I was entering cautiously and managed to brake sharply although the driver behind me didn't look too happy


Have anyone else ever had a near miss due to other drivers signalling wrong intentions and expecting you to be psychic?
ffawkes
12-12-2016
sorry b ut it was your mistake, you should have waited for him to start making his exit turn before you pulled out.
human nature
12-12-2016
My friend's wife had a crash in exactly the same circumstances you describe.

Unfortunately when it came to the insurance, she was deemed the guilty party because you should never trust other drivers and should only pull out when you KNOW it is safe to do so (in other words, after the other car has started to turn).
Pitman
12-12-2016
first rule of driving, never trust an indicator, well actually that's not the first rule but must be one of them

this rule is even stronger now people are relying on sat-navs, bloody things
Zeropoint1
12-12-2016
I've started to notice this recently too and almost did the same as the OP.

A car goes around the roundabout and changes its signal to left as it approaches a junction but carries on to the next.

I've often wondered if it's some weird passive aggressive thing where they don't want anybody to enter while they are there. So keep indicating left and keep everybody guessing.
human nature
12-12-2016
When waiting to join a roundabout it's not helped if you have impatient drivers behind you hitting their horn because you 'appear' to be hesitating... when in fact you're just waiting to be sure it's safe.
That username
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by ffawkes:
“sorry b ut it was your mistake, you should have waited for him to start making his exit turn before you pulled out.”

People who do not indicate properly should be charged with driving without due car

The same is true of people in wrong lanes. Near where I live is a very large roundabout and as the left hand lane moves faster then the right people use the left lane to take the right turn. Then you can not always see that the vehicle has not left the roundabout on one of the other turns when moving across.
Andrew1954
12-12-2016
Not something I get too exercised about. Some people are bad drivers and even if they're not, sometimes people make mistakes. Sometimes even I make mistakes. Sometimes even you make mistakes. You do you know, you really do! . Sometimes people change their minds or realise they don't want to go that way, they want to go the other way. They shouldn't, but they do. We should all try not to do it. You should drive expecting all this and more to happen .... and not get too fussed about it.
muggins14
13-12-2016
Sounds more like a case of indicating too early rather than indicating and changing their mind, if you see the difference?

Indicating usually means next turn, as we all know, but many people indicate that they are turning but do it a turn off or two too early. Very annoying but it's why we should all be vigilant drivers and always assume that everybody on the road is an idiot (including yourself) as my instructor always told me
David (2)
13-12-2016
Firstly to repeat what another poster pointed out, and happened to me at the weekend. I was giving way to the right at a mini (painted) roundabout. But the car to my right was straddling the left + right lanes, so I had to wait until I was sure he was going left and not across in front of me.....just that moment and the driver behind me used the horn, as if to say get a move on!

It's the same basic thing when pulling out from a side road onto a main road. If there's a car approaching from your right, and it's indicating....don't trust the indication. It may not turn in and instead carry on the main road.........and ironically, as I drove thru town on Sunday, the corsa behind me had its left-turn signal flashing for about 2miles! Never trust an indication!
Andrew1954
13-12-2016
Yeah, you learn to read whether or not a car's body language as t'were is doing what the indicator is telling you.
Zeropoint1
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Andrew1954:
“Yeah, you learn to read whether or not a car's body language as t'were is doing what the indicator is telling you.”

I have to do this a lot. The road I live on exits on to two main roads at either end and you frequently see cars indicating either way. It's a cross roads at the 'quieter' end and you have to remember that even though the car is indicating left and it's 'safe' to pull out they just haven't cancelled their signal yet and are going straight on!
razorback Tony
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by David (2):
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It's the same basic thing when pulling out from a side road onto a main road. If there's a car approaching from your right, and it's indicating....don't trust the indication. It may not turn in and instead carry on the main road.........and ironically, as I drove thru town on Sunday, the corsa behind me had its left-turn signal flashing for about 2miles! Never trust an indication!”

In London, bus drivers are prone to foregetting to cancel their indicators, once I was behind a 381 all the way from Borough High St. to Blackfriars Road, and his o/s indicator never stopped blinking.
Another time I heard a Post Office van driver arguing with a bus driver in Kingsway WC2, and the van driver said, "How was I to know that you were the one bus driver in London who meant it when he put his indicator on?"
If I'm behind a car with the indicator blinking for miles, my first thought is, 'Mmm, a bus driver on his day off.'
petertree
13-12-2016
I discovered my indicators were faulty after a driver flashed me, even though I was signalling right my indicators were flashing left. The computer on my Clio had given up, but I've no idea how long I had been driving with the fault, amazed I didn't cause a crash.
Mustabuster
13-12-2016
IMO the main cause of accidents boils down to drivers behaving unpredictably. If a driver suddenly appear out of nowhere or appear to do one thing but then do something else it disrupts the driving of others around them.
grumpyscot
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“first rule of driving, never trust an indicator, ”

Which is why BMW and Audi drivers don't use them!
razorback Tony
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by grumpyscot:
“Which is why BMW and Audi drivers don't use them!”

I drive neither a B.M.W nor an Audi, but these sweeping generalisations have me shaking my head in disbelief.
Sure, I don't drive as much as I used to, living in London it's a senseless exercise, unless you have no viable alternative, but I don't recall either of those marques being particularly reticent about indicating.
Madridista23
13-12-2016
"Drivers who signal one thing and do another instead"......

Most of them are
Chihiro77
13-12-2016
I find indicating is the worst at the double mini roundabout near me, not only that but no one seems to understand who has the right of way.


Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“I drive neither a B.M.W nor an Audi, but these sweeping generalisations have me shaking my head in disbelief.Sure, I don't drive as much as I used to, living in London it's a senseless exercise, unless you have no viable alternative, but I don't recall either of those marques being particularly reticent about indicating.”

Oh for gods sake, it's a joke.
Deep Purple
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Chihiro77:
“I

Oh for gods sake, it's a joke.”

Was it though? There are those among us who believe such nonsense. One poster even claims to have carried out research to prove it, although that in itself was nonsense too.
Chihiro77
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“Was it though? There are those among us who believe such nonsense. One poster even claims to have carried out research to prove it, although that in itself was nonsense too.”

Yes. Stop taking everything so seriously, sometimes people on here make things up just to annoy you.
Deep Purple
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Chihiro77:
“Yes. Stop taking everything so seriously, sometimes people on here make things up just to annoy you.”

Oh, he believed it though. It's me calling the "research" nonsense.
scottie2121
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by ffawkes:
“sorry b ut it was your mistake, you should have waited for him to start making his exit turn before you pulled out.”

So the driver who was indicating incorrectly was not at fault?
molliepops
13-12-2016
Sometimes people don't always know where they are going, it's a fact, I've done it as I am sure many others have too. Just have to accept that I'm afraid as you can't legislate for people not knowing the road intimately or simply forgetting where they are going.
ffawkes
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by scottie2121:
“So the driver who was indicating incorrectly was not at fault?”

People make mistakes. If you drive unaware of that you too are making a mistake. Let's say you are driving along a minor road intending to turn left at a T junction with a main road. You stop at the junction, and to your right you see a car approaching, indicating to turn left into your side road. Do you pull out?
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