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Drivers who signal one thing and do another instead
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Maxatoria
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“first rule of driving, never trust an indicator, well actually that's not the first rule but must be one of them

this rule is even stronger now people are relying on sat-navs, bloody things ”

The first rule of driving is to expect that everyone else on the road got their driving license from the back of a Weetabix box and you work from there by assuming they're an idiot and expect absolute stupidity at every turn literally.
Harvey_Specter
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“Nearly had a crash today at a roundabout... Car coming round signalled to exit at my junction so I started to enter the roundabout, thinking he was going to turn off... but he carried on straight round and exited at the next junction instead!

Luckily I was entering cautiously and managed to brake sharply although the driver behind me didn't look too happy


Have anyone else ever had a near miss due to other drivers signalling wrong intentions and expecting you to be psychic? ”

They're an arse, but also you can't just take the indication as your prompt to move off, you need to be certain they're making that turning.
scottie2121
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by ffawkes:
“People make mistakes. If you drive unaware of that you too are making a mistake. Let's say you are driving along a minor road intending to turn left at a T junction with a main road. You stop at the junction, and to your right you see a car approaching, indicating to turn left into your side road. Do you pull out?”

It would depend on a number of things particularly the speed of the car. If it wasn't slowing down to take the turn then no, I wouldn't move.

But I will ask you again - are drivers who do not use their indicators correctly at fault?
human nature
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by scottie2121:
“But I will ask you again - are drivers who do not use their indicators correctly at fault?”

Yes, of course - but the rules state you must not pull out unless you are sure it is safe to do so. You must therefore allow for the possibility that the driver who is indicating to turn off is making a mistake.

If you don't obey this rule, the fault becomes yours. At least that's how the law will interpret it.
ffawkes
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by scottie2121:
“It would depend on a number of things particularly the speed of the car. If it wasn't slowing down to take the turn then no, I wouldn't move.

But I will ask you again - are drivers who do not use their indicators correctly at fault?”

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/po...ex.htm?t=98182
sky0000547
13-12-2016
Indicating is a lost art these days. When I was taught 20+ years ago and I believe it is the same now that when going round a roundabout you will first indicate right signal then change to left signal to exit. Most do not bother to use the right signal so you don't know whether they are coming or going and most do use just the left signal to exit and not the right to go round or some don't bother to use any signals at all.
Monkey_Moo
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by ffawkes:
“http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/po...ex.htm?t=98182”

Why did you link to that forum thread? Just another forum like this. Information on there is going to be any more or any less correct or valid.

However the correct answer, as most people stated, is the person pulling out is at majority fault, not the person indicating badly. It's still their right of way.
That username
13-12-2016
I had a friend who pulled out in front of a bus who was indicating left to turn into a junction but continued on, I know both drivers got charged, the bus driver pleaded not guilty both got fined and received penalty points.

While people make mistakes - I have found myself in wrong lanes especially when in areas i do not know - it should be up to the driver who is in the wrong to make sure others are aware of them, by slowing down, speeding up, using different signals and so on.

Now I have offered everyone my expertise I am off to eBay to renew my licence.
Finglonga
13-12-2016
Treat everyone else on the road as an idiot and you will be fine.
too_much_coffee
13-12-2016
My driving instructor always told me "Until you see the wheels turn then don't believe the indicator". This has stood me in good stead over almost forty years of driving.

He also told me to treat every other road user as a suicidal lunatic.

A few years ago I also took a "Drive to Survive" course which was a great reminder on how to drive safely after many years driving when it's all too easy to become complacent. Likewise, the course instructor said that indicators should never be believed until the driver starts the actual manoeuvre.
That username
14-12-2016
Originally Posted by too_much_coffee:
“My driving instructor always told me "Until you see the wheels turn then don't believe the indicator". This has stood me in good stead over almost forty years of driving.

He also told me to treat every other road user as a suicidal lunatic.

A few years ago I also took a "Drive to Survive" course which was a great reminder on how to drive safely after many years driving when it's all too easy to become complacent. Likewise, the course instructor said that indicators should never be believed until the driver starts the actual manoeuvre.”

That is fine, but people who practice this cause problems too as in busy periods they are sat at the head of a ever increasing queue waiting for there to be no cars on the road. If everyone drove like that there would be even greater traffic then there already is.
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