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I guess there are a lot of posters here who have never performed in public, so they won't have experienced the emotional effects of massive rush of adrenaline combined with a build up of fear, concentrated into a minute and a bit.
Some people need to gabble, others have to rush around, some literally shake, and others weep because the effects are overwhelming. |
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What a nasty little slice of the internet this is.
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Oh whenever anybody cries they're accused of faking it on here. At least Ore's eyes demonstrably well up, so we don't have the usual unedifying spectacle of "I DIDN'T SEE ONE ACTUAL TEAR, I REWOUND THE TAPE FIVE TIMES".
I mean, going back to Mark Wright, does anyone REALLY believe crying on TV like that did anything for his street cred/reputation? if he could have stopped it, he would have. But everything got to him to such an extent that he couldn't even being himself to speak when asked a direct question by Claudia. Yet, because he is perceived as "reality TV trash" he must be devoid of all human emotion and, therefore, must have been 'faking it'... |
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I guess there are a lot of posters here who have never eperformed in public, so they won't have experienced the emotional effects of massive rush of adrenaline combined with a build up of fear, concentrated into a minute and a bit.
Some people need to gabble, others have to rush around, some literally shake, and others weep because the effects are overwhelming. |
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Really?
So Tameka "crying" along with Ore after his AS scores makes her a deceitful, lying, devious litlle bitch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIfq711vheU Then the whole group pretends to cry - and we are truly overrun by 'dishonesty'...no wonder the world is in the state that is in (rolleyes) Thanks for clearing that up vald (Professor of English). |
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You have to blame the Victorians for this "Men don't cry" stuff. Before that men used to show their emotions more than Ori!
I love to see the contestants faces as they face the results and crying or otherwise is quite normal and real. |
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What a nasty little slice of the internet this is.
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isn't it just, I'm about to start putting some FMs on the mute list
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It's just an entertainment show, why get upset over it
![]() ![]() I'm not upset or irritated by Strictly. Its the relentless nastiness about some participants which saddens me. |
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Unless there is a major mishap, Ore and Jo will get all my votes on Saturday.
That is mainly due to the nastiness around here being directed at them constantly.
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I totally agree, or you have to be in that bad place then to make ANY derogatory remark about ANY dancer, who is a stranger. Food for thought to EVERYONE who does this then.
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Unless there is a major mishap, Ore and Jo will get all my votes on Saturday.
That is mainly due to the nastiness around here being directed at them constantly. |
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For somebody, who by their own admission, has 10 different accounts and uses them to vote for Ore, I find any of your posts laughable. We get it, you love Ore; desperation is not an attractive trait though really ..."rolls her eyes"
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What a nasty little slice of the internet this is.
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I know, right. I had thought that this would be a nice forum to post in but there's so much vitriol being spewed. People complain about the BB forum but it's an absolute delight compared. There are quite a number of nice posters here though just the unpleasant ones seem to be the most prolific. :/
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I hope posters felt the same way when the nastiness was directed at Claudia, Louise and Ed etc and said so.
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I hope posters felt the same way when the nastiness was directed at Claudia, Louise and Ed etc and said so.
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Every time I see 'man up' on here I cringe. It's BS like that which ultimately means male suicide rates are so high (nasty thought but unfortunately utterly true - look into how toxic that is if you don't believe me). It's really pretty pathetic that in this day and age people still think men shouldn't show emotion: news flash, they're still human beings!
The fact that some people also can't process the idea that he might be emotional over getting the final is equally bizarre. The 'oh it must be fake!' BS. Really? Why are these people so emotionally dead inside that they can't comprehend such reaction as being real? At the end of the day, people are criticising him for having an emotional reaction and that is the stupidest thing. If YOU'RE uncomfortable with a guy showing emotion then frankly there's something wrong with you, not him. BIB 1 : Are you really equating people criticizing his unusually high levels of crying on the show with the incidence of male suicide? That seems a bit much and perhaps not very appropriate. I am also confused by the other FMs applauding your assertion. Maybe a bit of perspective would help.BIB 2: Classic straw-man argument that, to be fair, is evident from a few posts. I didn't notice many, if any, posts saying men shouldn't show emotion (or even cry in public). Frankly there have been many times men have cried on the show, including multiple other examples this last weekend. If your claim was valid in this context there would be endless similar threads about many contestants. It is clearly more about the frequency of it, perhaps in relation to the context. I wouldn't say that necessarily justifies the level of criticism but I can see why it annoys some people. Quote:
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Why can't he just be the kind of full-on person that doesn't appeal to you? Because that's about where I am with Ore. He seems like a lovely chap but he doesn't have the type of personality I gel with. That's fine. That's why IRL we are friends with some people and not others - we find some people simpatico and not others. It's just different strokes for different folks. |
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I guess there are a lot of posters here who have never performed in public, so they won't have experienced the emotional effects of massive rush of adrenaline combined with a build up of fear, concentrated into a minute and a bit.
Some people need to gabble, others have to rush around, some literally shake, and others weep because the effects are overwhelming. Yes, it is wildly exciting and you can't wait to hit the stage, but what you describe sounds more like someone doing a speech at the school fete for the first time
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I can't see any problem at all with men crying, for whatever reason.
But turning on the fake waterworks in order to sway or manipulate an audience just makes me want to slap them with their man bag. And no, I do not loathe Ore. I think he has actual talent and great legs. The sobbing I could really do without. |
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I dunno. Some of us stood in the wings and just thought about the divine whiskey and ginger/gin/beer we could have waiting for us afterwards.
Yes, it is wildly exciting and you can't wait to hit the stage, but what you describe sounds more like someone doing a speech at the school fete for the first time ![]() ![]() I thought accepting the role of teaching assistant would help and it sort of does but only because I am concentrating on doing the cleanest example of whatever the step is that I can. |
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I guess there are a lot of posters here who have never performed in public, so they won't have experienced the emotional effects of massive rush of adrenaline combined with a build up of fear, concentrated into a minute and a bit.
Some people need to gabble, others have to rush around, some literally shake, and others weep because the effects are overwhelming. |
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His mum and his dad are there and his wife. In whose eyes do posters imagine Ore most wants/needs to hold himself true and honest -- the eyes of his immediate family or those of unknown potential voters?
Do posters really think he would fake tears -- as a grown man -- before his eighty-year-old father? Maybe I'm being idealistic, but I don't think anyone would so casually seek to damage the person they (hope they) are before the people who matter most to them in the world. By damage I don't mean his tears, which in my eyes are not an issue, but this accusation of dishonesty.
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Speech at a school fete I could handle. But if I get a sense that anyone is paying attention to me dancing at a social or similar, I get sort of foot tied.
![]() I thought accepting the role of teaching assistant would help and it sort of does but only because I am concentrating on doing the cleanest example of whatever the step is that I can. and it's clear your talents lie there, and in dancing for your own pleasure.I got used to it very early on, and so do celebs - whether they are on TV, on a show sofa or just in front of the general public. Real nerves I can spot a mile away - possibly through having to teach others to dance or helping my clients face the media - but the fake nerves? Nah. I know it when I see it. My job is to make it go away and help them shine. |
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Ore is a seasoned presenter and hardly comes across as a shy, shrinking violet. Poking his tongue out at the camera and pulling cocky faces doesn't exactly ring true with someone who isn't extremely confident. He also knows how to play the audience with his oh so humble persona
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and perhaps not very appropriate.
I am also confused by the other FMs applauding your assertion. Maybe a bit of perspective would help.