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Old 13-12-2016, 09:12
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Oooh nice one, just watching iplayer in UHD

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/planet_earth_4k

lucky for me, my panny tv is on the list
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Old 21-12-2016, 12:41
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I wonder when they'll add support for LG TVs.
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Old 22-12-2016, 11:43
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I wonder when they'll add support for LG TVs.
Isn't it likely to be the other way around. the TV has to be able to support the formats being trialled.
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Old 22-12-2016, 12:31
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Isn't it likely to be the other way around. the TV has to be able to support the formats being trialled.
No, I don't think so. Although 2016 4K TVs from LG might not support Hybrid Log Gamma HDR yet (which is the format of HDR that the test clip is in), the BBC have already made a version of the test clip converted to a currently more commonly supported type of HDR (I think HDR10) and a Beta iPlayer for the Sky Q platform.

That means it's a matter of the BBC providing a version of iPlayer for that test clip on LG's WebOS platform. If LG is able to add HLG support (which looks like it will be the preferred format of HDR for broadcast) to their 2016 TVs, all the better. LG demonstrated capability earlier this year, but it's not clear if it will become available on current, 2016 models. The HLG standard has not been formally ratified as yet.

[Edit] Hmm, just found out that, in fact, if you're watching the clip on a Panasonic TV, you're only seeing 4K without HDR. Their TVs aren't HLG capable either. I had thought they were, and that's why the BBC selected them to be first with the test, but that's not the case.

http://4k.com/news/oops-bbc-iplayer-...ter-all-17953/
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:39
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It seems that the version Sky Q is also not in HDR either.

http://4k.com/news/now-planet-earth-...res-how-17969/

HDR only if you are a Virgin subscriber with the new V6 TiVo box.
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Old 23-12-2016, 08:01
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No, I don't think so. Although 2016 4K TVs from LG might not support Hybrid Log Gamma HDR yet (which is the format of HDR that the test clip is in), the BBC have already made a version of the test clip converted to a currently more commonly supported type of HDR (I think HDR10) and a Beta iPlayer for the Sky Q platform.

That means it's a matter of the BBC providing a version of iPlayer for that test clip on LG's WebOS platform. If LG is able to add HLG support (which looks like it will be the preferred format of HDR for broadcast) to their 2016 TVs, all the better. LG demonstrated capability earlier this year, but it's not clear if it will become available on current, 2016 models. The HLG standard has not been formally ratified as yet.

[Edit] Hmm, just found out that, in fact, if you're watching the clip on a Panasonic TV, you're only seeing 4K without HDR. Their TVs aren't HLG capable either. I had thought they were, and that's why the BBC selected them to be first with the test, but that's not the case.

http://4k.com/news/oops-bbc-iplayer-...ter-all-17953/
The tvs are HLG HDR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY-RumXiGZ0

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As the BBC and Panasonic have confirmed, viewers will only be able to see the documentary segment in SDR 4K for now, even if trying to view it on the few Panasonic 4K TV models that are compatible with HLG high dynamic range and have the iPlayer app........

it's ore like a bad marketing by the BBC
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The simple fact that the iPlayer app 4K trial only works in some Panasonic TVs with no current plans to extend the trial of 4K HLG HDR into other models for “Planet Earth II” or any other programming with HDR in the new format speaks poorly of the BBC’s short-term consumer satisfaction planning in this area.

As always, its confusing. Also as we don't yet have HD broadcast as standard yet , Well we may have it but you have to pay extra for it HLG HDR 4K Whatever they end up calling it, this will be for a very select few.
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:08
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Maybe another part of the reason for the tests was technical, to see whether TVs that aren't HLG compatible were unaffected by the presence of additional HLG data. If that was true, it's still pretty awful handling of the publicity as they could have made it available on more platforms that support (non HDR) 4K. It's not clear whether the clip used is HLG encoded or whether there's some problem with iPlayer successfully presenting the HLG data to compatible TVs.

Still, it's only beta at this stage and these sorts of problem are only to be expected. This kind of testing and revealing of issues, is exactly what beta testing is for.

Perhaps it's just because of the additional time it takes to develop an iPlayer version for each platform (The BBC recently reduced the number of different platforms it supports iPlayer on, stopping support on older models).

For this 4K test, one platform had to be first (unless they'd chosen to wait till all versions were ready) and in this case it was Panasonic.

Hopefully it will be made available for other manufacturer's platforms soon and with HLG that works for those TVs that are HLG compatible.
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