You haven't got out much if you call a point of view an insult. You make your observations, I make mine. There aren't different rules that app!y to you. If a jokey thread offends you, why post a negative because its aimed at a dancer you like? The digs and sarcasm are transparent.

so I take it you have low self-esteem and see something of yourself in the OP, as you had a go at them? Now come on, this is the part where you desperately try not to split a hair whilst telling me what you said is different to what I've said. Priceless and the usual double standards in action but failing miserably.

The difference is this. I don't sit at my computer, crack my knuckles and wonder who I can insult today.

No you just go on threads making sly innuendos.

Nah. I know my limitations, I leave it to you, the master

Be careful now, I'm sensing some personal insults and you don't do those do you?

You could add the amazing insight into the human condition he offered - represented by the hormones rushing , invisibly, but so visibly, to his eyes, and then the sheer dynamism of the tears , cascading down his cheeks , imitating Niagra Falls .Never have so many been moved, even soaked, by such a display of sheer emotion.

Following the success of his static AT, Joanne is choreographing Ore's show dance in the style of the Mannequin Challenge to Jewel's Standing Still.

It was that opening pose,the tension,the anticipation......
And then he just flicked his gaze down

Jo didn't choreograph the AT .

All the ATs are choreographed by outside Choreographers .

An observational comedy tour-de-force - which could only have been improved if it had been posted by 'StandingStill_Dave'.

Can you quote the post where I had a go at the OP please?

There is nothing wrong in standing still in dance, as long as its done in the right way and is meaningful. I fully get what Bruno meant. I can also remember at last years British nationals at the start of the Paso, both Neil and Katya just stood still for at least 8 bars of music - perfectly still, not moving at all, whilst everyone else was well into their routines. It worked for them, they retained their title.
Even in something like Tango, we were always taught never be afraid to stand still, - too many couples race round the room and that is not a characteristic of Tango. Incidentally the coach that told us " never be afraid of standing still" was a former World Champion and in all his Professional career was never ever beaten at Tango, so he does know what he is talking about.
I have seen in a top International competition, where again in Tango, a couple stood still, initially as there was a couple in their way. They stood and stood, maintaining their fabulous posture and frame, their dynamic personality and floor presence commanded your attention. After many bars of music, the entire audience broke into rapturous applause. It was amazing.

Nothing wrong in standing still.

Nice to hear a sensible post from someone who knows what they are talking about.

Also good to read a post without rancour or bitterness. Thank you

I've not quoted your whole post but I do agree with you. There is standing still stiffly like one of the Queen's guards outside Buckingham Palace and there is standing 'still' with some movement in the body indicating power, strength or musicality or whatever the person wants to convey.

Nice post.


I think it was one of Ore's earlier ballroom dances where Darcey commented on his ability to use stillness or quiet, I forget the exact comment. So this quality in him has been noted before and may be this is what the AT choreographer wished to utilise. The song is about a woman whose head and heart is in turmoil from desire, which was Jo's role. Ore was the contrast.

Yes indeed Ann. A man can look so commanding, masculine and dominant with the right shaping, just "standing still",

Snipped for brevity, but thanks for your insightful post. All these posts about 'not dancing' remind me of Torvill and Dean skating Bolero, where the first 15 seconds or so involved no skating at all. The unexpected can be very powerful when it's done well.

Yes indeed - except for those involving Vincent or Flavia. Which brings me to the next point: the amount of content and degree of difficulty in Vincent and Rachel's AT were phenomenal. All executed perfectly, and they got a 39. Ore and Joanne's routine wasn't remotely comparable in those terms. A dancing competition should be more than standing around looking good!


I have to say I disagree, in the context of SCD anyway.

I totally agree with you, in relation to dance in general, except the the OP post was about Argentine Tango - that is, Ore and Joanne's version of it.

We do not stand still in Argentine Tango, except at the very beginning before we start to actually dance.

Whilst dancing we have some very quiet, slow moments but, unless the performance is very 'nuevo' and therefore slightly out of the box, we don't do any standing around and the movement is continuous. The man leads so standing still for him is not an option.

It is not at all like Ballroom Tango.

Me too. Ore bashing threads are becoming very very boring indeed. At least the guy has the guts to on to compete in something that he hasn't got any experience. Good on him.

Thank god the Ore "bashing" is diminishing on social media & a lot more positive posts are appearing

Maybe they've realised their protests isn't going no where

Not so much "Ore bashing" as "Why is he not moving"?

Didn't you know? He captured the zeitgeist of now with his stillness.