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Woman fails to pay for waste disposal so ends up with waste dumped in her garden
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WhatJoeThinks
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Meaning not everyone agrees with me.”

Meaning that no valid explanation will satisfy those who are not willing to listen. Evidently several people in this thread have vicariously taken umbrage to this woman's actions and think she got what she deserves. There's no arguing with that, and I've made the points I wanted to make. I don't wish to continue to go around in circles.
francie
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Meaning that no valid explanation will satisfy those who are not willing to listen. Evidently several people in this thread have vicariously taken umbrage to this woman's actions and think she got what she deserves. There's no arguing with that, and I've made the points I wanted to make. I don't wish to continue to go around in circles. ”

Yes I do feel she got what she deserved, her rubbish back.

I can't see that you've made any valid explanation of anything. You're the one that brought fly-tipping / illegal/ offence into the discussion so expect and/or accept when others see differently.
WhatJoeThinks
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“Yes I do feel she got what she deserved, her rubbish back.

I can't see that you've made any valid explanation of anything. You're the one that brought fly-tipping / illegal/ offence into the discussion so expect and/or accept when others see differently.”

I do accept it. And I have no wish to continue attempting to convince you otherwise.
AxeVictim
13-12-2016
http://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime...firm-1-8275440
tim59
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by a1pilot13:
“If you want to play this game, how about the company removing the waste and then the woman suing them for doing so because by not paying she had not completed the contract, therefore they had no contract to remove and destroy / re-purpose her property.

It's thin, but I can see it being brought up in court. Possibly even a defense to them trying to claim the fees.”

I would say the women is in breach of contract as she agreed to pay when the skip was being collected, not after it was taken away so the only way the comany can get thier property back without it costing them any more is to empty the skip and collect thier skip, these companies have to pay a fortune to tip waste. you get a few costomers a week doing this you are looking at thousands pounds a week losers
a1pilot13
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“http://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime...firm-1-8275440”

Yes... Nothing to do with the story, but thanks.
francie
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“ I do accept it. And I have no wish to continue attempting to convince you otherwise.”

You never convinced me from the onset so yeah best not to continue trying.
a1pilot13
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“I would say the women is in breach of contract as she agreed to pay when the skip was being collected, not after it was taken away so the only way the comany can get thier property back without it costing them any more is to empty the skip and collect thier skip, these companies have to pay a fortune to tip waste. you get a few costomers a week doing this you are looking at thousands pounds a week losers”

Absolutely. Was considering it from the point she claims they didn't chase her so she acts like she didn't breach the contract and tries to say she couldn't get hold of them, then next thing the rubbish is gone. People lie through their teeth if they see an escape route...
WhatJoeThinks
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by francie:
“You never convinced me from the onset so yeah best not to continue trying.”

Like I said, banging my head against a brick wall.
a1pilot13
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Like I said, banging my head against a brick wall. ”

Don't worry, if it's built like your argument it will collapse in no time.
francie
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“I would say the women is in breach of contract as she agreed to pay when the skip was being collected, not after it was taken away so the only way the comany can get thier property back without it costing them any more is to empty the skip and collect thier skip, these companies have to pay a fortune to tip waste. you get a few costomers a week doing this you are looking at thousands pounds a week losers”

I should imagine a few customers per week taking the mickey would soon make a dent. Time lost returning her rubbish, diesel (or whatever), wages etc I can't see why any business should have to put up with people like this family.
WhatJoeThinks
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by a1pilot13:
“Don't worry, if it's built like your argument it will collapse in no time.”

Ooooh, pithy. Nice.
francie
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Like I said, banging my head against a brick wall. ”

Stock up on the plasters. It seems you like the last word so go ahead and fill your boots.
tim59
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Ooooh, pithy. Nice. ”

Not sure if you have seen this case about fly tipping https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...yIQkOSRdpV-VUQ
francie
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“Not sure if you have seen this case about fly tipping https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...yIQkOSRdpV-VUQ”

Can't believe she didn't shred her letters / address to bits. If I can't shred I use scissors or a permanent marker to obliterate.
AxeVictim
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by a1pilot13:
“Yes... Nothing to do with the story, but thanks.”

They are fly tipping their own premises by the look of it... prick
muggins14
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by a1pilot13:
“If you want to play this game, how about the company removing the waste and then the woman suing them for doing so because by not paying she had not completed the contract, therefore they had no contract to remove and destroy / re-purpose her property.

It's thin, but I can see it being brought up in court. Possibly even a defense to them trying to claim the fees.”

If we are stretching things a bit, how about she be done for depriving them of potential earnings? If the skip remained on the lawn until the bill was paid - probably the 12th of Never, they would be one skip down, depriving them of potential earnings from using that skip for other customers.

What we don't know is whether they told her that this would be the consequence of not paying when they agreed for her to use the skip. If they don't take payment prior to hiring out the skip, perhaps it's made very clear at the start of the whole venture what the consequences of non-payment will be? We don't really know the full story.
muggins14
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“http://www.wigantoday.net/news/crime...firm-1-8275440”

Looking at that, I wonder whose responsibility it would have been had the skip remained, full of rubbish, on the grass for months and months whilst the bill remained unpaid. Presumably she would have found herself fined, much as the people in your link - or would the skip company?
a1pilot13
14-12-2016
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“They are fly tipping their own premises by the look of it... prick”

Yes, but it's a completely different issue.

In your article, they were storing waste incorrectly (surveillance, longer term), leading to prosecution. We're not talking short term temporary storage until it is rectified. The whole scenario is different.

Should the woman leave the waste there and it creates problems, then sure it would be comparable.
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