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Russian Hackers Behind Brexit
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Tanky
13-12-2016
These Russians must be better than the Chinese , if they can pull off Brexit.

I wonder what GCHQ was doing? LOL!
MargMck
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Tanky:
“These Russians must be better than the Chinese , if they can pull off Brexit.

I wonder what GCHQ was doing? LOL!”

Filling in phoney Remain votes... but the ruthless Russians out-paced them?
The Backbencher
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“What on earth does that have to do with anything?

It would appear that there is strong evidence to believe that Russia was hacking in order to manipulate and influence the outcome of the US election. I think we would be naive to think that they don't hack into our security/government information systems.

Some time ago I read (can't find it now) how it was Putin's intention to destabilise the EU preferably by a UK withdrawl amd also to manipulate/intefere with US elections causing chaos and instability.

This has been a 'shock' year with a great deal of uncertainty and unpredictabilty globally.

I think we'd be naive to ust dismiss the possibilty of intervention/interference of malign intent.

And ...................I like Ben Bradshaw ”

It's the extraordinary double standards that amuse me.

Britain and America have an ongoing record of interfering in the affairs of sovereign states as long as your arm. That Russia also dabbles in this should be a surprise to no one. The faux moral outrage from idiots like Bradshaw should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

There is no moral high ground to be had here and Bradshaw with his mock indignation can piss right off, frankly.
Penny Crayon
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tiggertiny:
“Yes and guess what after all their spying activities the USSR still collapsed.

However, we are discussing how Russian hackers could have made millions of Britons vote a particular way. So I ask again any evidence or suggestions as to what they might have done?”

I'm a 60 year old grandmother sat on my sofa in North East Lincolnshire following recent events on TV and on my computer. If I had the evidence that you're asking for I'm sure I'd be in great demand and not sat here tapping out my suspicions on DS.

I am not fool enough however to think that Putin is just some kindly old gentleman who has no interest whatsoever in manipulating events to his own advantage.
Hacker Harrier
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fizzbin:
“It might have been a Russian.

His name was Boris I believe.”

I see what you did there...

Have some Boris Yeltsin dancing! Happy days!
MargMck
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I'm a 60 year old grandmother sat on my sofa in North East Lincolnshire following recent events on TV and on my computer. If I had the evidence that you're asking for I'm sure I'd be in great demand and not sat here tapping out my suspicions on DS.

I am not fool enough however to think that Putin is just some kindly old gentleman who has no interest whatsoever in manipulating events to his own advantage.”

But do you actually think that Putin fiddled the Brexit vote?
Penny Crayon
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“But do you actually think that Putin fiddled the Brexit vote?”

I don't see how he could have 'fiddled the vote' - I don't discount that he had some influence/manipulation somewhere along the line though.
tiggertiny
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I'm a 60 year old grandmother sat on my sofa in North East Lincolnshire following recent events on TV and on my computer. If I had the evidence that you're asking for I'm sure I'd be in great demand and not sat here tapping out my suspicions on DS.

I am not fool enough however to think that Putin is just some kindly old gentleman who has no interest whatsoever in manipulating events to his own advantage.”

My question was what actions might they have taken to affect the voting intentions of millions of Britons? Now I have no reason to believe they did, however, just for fun I could suggest the editors of the Mail and Express are Russian KGB and fed such anti EU stuff that convinced me, or that Farage is KGB or even Boris!!
tiggertiny
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Tanky:
“These Russians must be better than the Chinese , if they can pull off Brexit.

I wonder what GCHQ was doing? LOL!”

Too busy looking at porn sites probably.
MargMck
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tiggertiny:
“My question was what actions might they have taken to affect the voting intentions of millions of Britons? Now I have no reason to believe they did, however, just for fun I could suggest the editors of the Mail and Express are Russian KGB and fed such anti EU stuff that convinced me, or that Farage is KGB or even Boris!! ”

I'm still trying to work out how a load of Russian-inspired click bait got all those nanas and grandads to go out and vote Leave.
Jayceef1
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“What on earth does that have to do with anything?

It would appear that there is strong evidence to believe that Russia was hacking in order to manipulate and influence the outcome of the US election. I think we would be naive to think that they don't hack into our security/government information systems.

Some time ago I read (can't find it now) how it was Putin's intention to destabilise the EU preferably by a UK withdrawl amd also to manipulate/intefere with US elections causing chaos and instability.

This has been a 'shock' year with a great deal of uncertainty and unpredictabilty globally.

I think we'd be naive to ust dismiss the possibilty of intervention/interference of malign intent.

And ...................I like Ben Bradshaw ”

Well the accusation in the US was that they hacked onto the electronic voting systems to influence the vote. Seeing as we don't use them I fail to see how they could do that here. Or perhaps they brainwashed 17+ million people to vote leave.
Penny Crayon
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Jayceef1:
“Well the accusation in the US was that they hacked onto the electronic voting systems to influence the vote. Seeing as we don't use them I fail to see how they could do that here. Or perhaps they brainwashed 17+ million people to vote leave.”

Errrrrrrrrr - that was just one accusation. What about the leaked and tampered with e mails? I think that is the main concern isn't it?
Granny McSmith
13-12-2016
So that nice Eastern European decorator I got in was really a Russian pretending to be Estonian, and while I wasn't looking he planted a radio device in mybedroom which sends messages to my brain while I'm asleep saying "Vote Brexit....vote Brexit"?

Well, who'd have believed it?

(I thought Leavers were supposed to be the ones who believed a load of lies!)
IvanIV
13-12-2016
If this goes on it will be easier to report what Russians didn't hack. On the second thought I think they hacked the vote on SCD, too
Eurostar
13-12-2016
Where do Brexiteers stand on Putin just out of interest? Trump seems to love him going by all the appointments he has made recently.
MargMck
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“So that nice Eastern European decorator I got in was really a Russian pretending to be Estonian, and while I wasn't looking he planted a radio device in mybedroom which sends messages to my brain while I'm asleep saying "Vote Brexit....vote Brexit"?

Well, who'd have believed it? ”

You'd be surprised. An MP and some on here apparently.
Meanwhile, there's a nice Guardian story today that Londoners 'take more cocaine on weekdays than other Europeans' so I'm going to suggest the Russians supply all the "well-educated", young cokeheads.
It's therefore "plausible", as MP Bradshaw might say, that on a certain Thursday in June they were already so euphoric and believing they had won that they didn't actually bother to go and cancel out your Zombie Leave vote. It would certainly explain a lot of the current paranoia.
MargMck
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Where do Brexiteers stand on Putin just out of interest? Trump seems to love him going by all the appointments he has made recently.”

Voting Brexit doesn't mean that you all fall into a bracket on everything, any more than it does for Remain voters.
I don't like Putin at all but will grudgingly admit he's kept Russia stable enough.
IvanIV
13-12-2016
It goes deeper, there's this old song, Ra-ra-ras Putin, lover of the English Queen, or something like that
Wolfman13
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Where do Brexiteers stand on Putin just out of interest? Trump seems to love him going by all the appointments he has made recently.”

Where do you stand on Putin?
Annsyre
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by tiggertiny:
“These Russian hackers must be the best in the business.”

They must be to have sabotaged the efforts of the thousands of people counting paper votes which arrived at the counts in sealed containers?
IvanIV
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Wolfman13:
“Where do you stand on Putin?”

On his neck?
Penny Crayon
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“It goes deeper, there's this old song, Ra-ra-ras Putin, lover of the English Queen, or something like that ”

I think you'll find it was Lover of the Russian Queen.
Gordon g
13-12-2016
I did suspect my toaster had been hacked. I was a staunch remainers until I had marmite on toast one day and boom.
Eurostar
13-12-2016
Originally Posted by Wolfman13:
“Where do you stand on Putin?”

I'd be in two minds about him. The western media have undoubtedly demonised him and at times have been drifting into blatant anti-Russian propaganda rather than accurate reporting. He'd still be a slippery enough character nonetheless and not afraid to fight dirty in order to get his way.
MARTYM8
13-12-2016
I have to admit for the first time that I - along with several other pro leave posters on here - am actually a KGB agent.

PS Not really - isn't this all getting a bit silly!
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