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Old 14-12-2016, 01:18
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It seems that the Mitchell Sisters exit has been leaked in full

Ronnie drowns rescuing Roxy from a swimming pool. Roxy is told that Ronnie is a match for Phils Liver

She says yes but Jack doesn't want it to happen. Eventually he is talked into it but cannot face Roxy who he blames completely for Ronnies death

She is devastated and leaves. The final scenes shot were the Pool stunt
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:21
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It seems that the Mitchell Sisters exit has been leaked in full

Ronnie drowns rescuing Roxy from a swimming pool. Roxy is told that Ronnie is a match for Phils Liver

She says yes but Jack doesn't want it to happen. Eventually he is talked into it but cannot face Roxy who he blames completely for Ronnies death

She is devastated and leaves. The final scenes shot were the Pool stunt
Where has this information come from?
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:22
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Yay I think many of us guessed one of them would be a donor for Philth. I am glad one of them survives, to come back another day
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:34
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I thought Ronnie was credited for post NYD episodes that would suggest Roxy would die?

Either way Phil will get one of their livers.
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:37
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I thought Ronnie was credited for post NYD episodes that would suggest Roxy would die?

Either way Phil will get one of their livers.
She is, the 4th according to the mini spoilers posted the other day, but that could just be her body
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:51
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Ronnie I understand to a degree, I think it fits with her original status as tragic heroine and how she'd do anything for her sister. I don't agree with the storyline though as to me, Ronnie could die in more dramatic circumstances that would fit her character more, still be the heroine and a dramatic exit for her ie. saving Roxy from Dean and falling out with Roxy over Fatboys death etc.... dying in Roxy's arm. This death has no build up or much acting required by sam which is annoying tbh. Ronnie was my favourite character and the person I'm seeing on screen in her exit doesn't seem like Ronnie or much acting required. It is a waste of a big exit.

But if Roxy survives; why did Roxy need to be axed? There is a bigger tragedy and bigger drama in Ronnie trying and failing to save Roxy. And if she is successful in saving Roxy; how would she die in a "swimming pool"? A swimming pool is easy to rescue someone from! And we saw them fall from a roof or ledge; a swimming pool in a mansion would be shallow, small and indoors (it is England after all!)

I'm still intrigued by the wording repeated. The EP said he wanted them to leave and they "agreed". Aren't you usually told you are axed? Was their "axing" done differently? It might explain a few things as I did, in particular, think it was harsh on Womack given she apparently has a good, long serving relationship with the BBC, has been involved in some of the biggest most controversial storylines, popular, they requested her for the role (rather than audition) and she helped, with Rita, revive the show when it was at it's lowest. There is axing of the fatboy characters vs characters like the mitchell sisters (esp Ronnie). What if they said no for whatever reason or do they get a payout for a polite statement?

I was disappointed already was what I mostly predicted above, however if Roxy "leaves ashamed" I'm going to be even more annoyed. If they want such a stupid exit/ death for one of the most controversial characters of the show in years, then at least go full on dramatic and kill both. Or make Ronnie's exit even more controversial/ dramatic, fitting her character and have her go out trying and failing to save Amy from drowning after falling in the pool. I'd understand Roxy leaving far more if amy died as well as Ronnie and it would provide a new story, something relevant (children die in these sort of accidents all the time) plus give Jack something meaty. There is losing Ronnie, but if he lost Amy as well. For me, with the current storyline, why would Jack not still up and move?
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:54
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Yay I think many of us guessed one of them would be a donor for Philth. I am glad one of them survives, to come back another day
How will they get around that though? Even if a match, Phil would not be first on the list and you don't jump a queue just because a relative dies. You'd have to have already offered your liver the same way Ben did :s Or will they ruin the already stupid story by portraying a false and unrealistic story of how a donor can jump the queue if a relative dies.
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Old 14-12-2016, 01:56
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Ronnie I understand to a degree, I think it fits with her original status as tragic heroine and how she'd do anything for her sister. I don't agree with the storyline though as to me, Ronnie could die in more dramatic circumstances that would fit her character more, still be the heroine and a dramatic exit for her ie. saving Roxy from Dean and falling out with Roxy over Fatboys death etc.... dying in Roxy's arm. This death has no build up or much acting required by sam which is annoying tbh. Ronnie was my favourite character and the person I'm seeing on screen in her exit doesn't seem like Ronnie or much acting required. It is a waste of a big exit.

But if Roxy survives; why did Roxy need to be axed? There is a bigger tragedy and bigger drama in Ronnie trying and failing to save Roxy. And if she is successful in saving Roxy; how would she die in a "swimming pool"? A swimming pool is easy to rescue someone from! And we saw them fall from a roof or ledge; a swimming pool in a mansion would be shallow, small and indoors (it is England after all!)

I'm still intrigued by the wording repeated. The EP said he wanted them to leave and they "agreed". Aren't you usually told you are axed? Was their "axing" done differently? It might explain a few things as I did, in particular, think it was harsh on Womack given she apparently has a good, long serving relationship with the BBC, has been involved in some of the biggest most controversial storylines, popular, they requested her for the role (rather than audition) and she helped, with Rita, revive the show when it was at it's lowest. There is axing of the fatboy characters vs characters like the mitchell sisters (esp Ronnie). What if they said no for whatever reason or do they get a payout for a polite statement?

I was disappointed already was what I mostly predicted above, however if Roxy "leaves ashamed" I'm going to be even more annoyed. If they want such a stupid exit/ death for one of the most controversial characters of the show in years, then at least go full on dramatic and kill both. Or make Ronnie's exit even more controversial/ dramatic, fitting her character and have her go out trying and failing to save Amy from drowning after falling in the pool. I'd understand Roxy leaving far more if amy died as well as Ronnie and it would provide a new story, something relevant (children die in these sort of accidents all the time) plus give Jack something meaty. There is losing Ronnie, but if he lost Amy as well. For me, with the current storyline, why would Jack not still up and move?
Rita has said in an interview just published on DS that Sean wanted them gone and they agreed to leave
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:02
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Rita has said in an interview just published on DS that Sean wanted them gone and they agreed to leave
Yes. What is your point? I stated that above :s
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:04
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Yes. What is your point? I stated that above :s
Sorry I misunderstood what u said

Anyway the 5th January cast list have been released, Ronnie is listed but still not Roxy or Jack, strange cast list
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:15
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At the time it was announced the Mitchel sisters were leaving it was said they were offered a an amazing exit storyline, I'm sorry but what is amazing about this, ee is just pathetic now.
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:27
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It seems that the Mitchell Sisters exit has been leaked in full

Ronnie drowns rescuing Roxy from a swimming pool. Roxy is told that Ronnie is a match for Phils Liver

She says yes but Jack doesn't want it to happen. Eventually he is talked into it but cannot face Roxy who he blames completely for Ronnies death

She is devastated and leaves. The final scenes shot were the Pool stunt
Sorry to be an utter bore, but may I please ask what media outlet has reported this please?

This very scenario is one I and many others have suggested. If one sister is living and Jack is definitely remaining in the series, this does sound a very plausible outcome. If Jack was leaving, then you could imagine him and Ronnie going off together, but he isn't?

There is no way Roxy could remain if she was responsible for Ronnie's death. Ronnie dying fits totally in with her character and the Soap God's get their revenge for past crimes.

For me, Ronnie dying has always seemed a 90% certainty, where as the big question was always - for me - whether The Sun had it right about Roxy dying slso?

Ironically, while I have always thought Ronnie should die, if there is to be any deaths at all. I have also felt that Ronnie is the one who could most realistically come back on her own for a guest appearance further down the road. I personally don't think she should of ever come back as a main character after 2011. I thought it at the time and I have never wavered from this view since 2013.

I do think Roxy could work without Ronnie (with the right writing) if she remained in the show. However, I do also think that it would be harder for her to return on her own after a long absence away.
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Old 14-12-2016, 02:55
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I'm so glad if this is true that Roxy survives! and it makes sense too with Sam Womack being bitter has some people have said and Rita not really saying anything.
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Old 14-12-2016, 03:16
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I always thought they both died and that Denises' baby would be Phils' saviour...who the heck knows. It's much better as a surprise, and I'm just glad both sisters are going as I never liked their characters.
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Old 14-12-2016, 03:17
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I'm so glad if this is true that Roxy survives! and it makes sense too with Sam Womack being bitter has some people have said and Rita not really saying anything.
I hope it is true too
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Old 14-12-2016, 03:52
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How will they get around that though? Even if a match, Phil would not be first on the list and you don't jump a queue just because a relative dies. You'd have to have already offered your liver the same way Ben did :s Or will they ruin the already stupid story by portraying a false and unrealistic story of how a donor can jump the queue if a relative dies.
I don't know. I am sure they will come up with some fairy tale to make it fit ( special blood type or antibodies etc)
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:03
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Ronnie is in the credits for the 5th Jan.
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:20
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Ronnie is in the credits for the 5th Jan.
It doesn't mean she is definitely alive. Jack and Roxy are not credited in the upcoming episodes after NYD.
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:21
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Wpw Killing Ronnie and Keeping Roxy alive? Interesting move
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:25
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I don't know. I am sure they will come up with some fairy tale to make it fit ( special blood type or antibodies etc)
Fairytale etc.. The entire story is absolute tripe! As mentioned, I'll wait for the backlash and negative reactions. He'll be gone within the year. You don't axe 2 big characters with a crap storyline like this. The whole point of axing the big names comes from having no other big names leaving offering you a chance for a big departure storyline for awards. This will not win rewards especially when you give a character a fairytale liver without following real life; it complete negates all the work done to make Phil's illness realistic and gives unrealistic hope to others out there that people can "jump the list".
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:26
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Wpw Killing Ronnie and Keeping Roxy alive? Interesting move
Why would Rita come back though? Axed and crap exit. What possible reason would she come back later unless broke and even then she'd have hardly any ties?! The only thing I can think of is she gets Amy and runs!
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Old 14-12-2016, 05:31
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Ronnie I understand to a degree, I think it fits with her original status as tragic heroine and how she'd do anything for her sister. I don't agree with the storyline though as to me, Ronnie could die in more dramatic circumstances that would fit her character more, still be the heroine and a dramatic exit for her ie. saving Roxy from Dean and falling out with Roxy over Fatboys death etc.... dying in Roxy's arm. This death has no build up or much acting required by sam which is annoying tbh. Ronnie was my favourite character and the person I'm seeing on screen in her exit doesn't seem like Ronnie or much acting required. It is a waste of a big exit.
Ronnie hasn't felt like Ronnie and Sam has been phoning in her performances for a long time to be fair.
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Old 14-12-2016, 06:09
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Why would Rita come back though? Axed and crap exit. What possible reason would she come back later unless broke and even then she'd have hardly any ties?! The only thing I can think of is she gets Amy and runs!
Yes this could be possible
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Old 14-12-2016, 06:55
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IF this is true, Ronnie dying will help Roxy grow up and live her own life, without Ronnie being overprotective. Killing off both Ronnie and Roxy would be a mistake.
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Old 14-12-2016, 06:58
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I'm so glad if this is true that Roxy survives! and it makes sense too with Sam Womack being bitter has some people have said and Rita not really saying anything.
How has Sam been bitter
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