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Old 22-12-2016, 00:11
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As all sci-fi is, but it's fun
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:13
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Nice twist at the end
Yes, I like the way they handled it too - the speed of realisation slower than the audience so we 'got there' first but not so slow that I felt the need to swear in frustration at someone's total dimness. Smart to do the revelation like that, you'd want to break the news gently to someone anyway.

I do think they need to make sure they take a copy of a report or two of the events they are going to 'preserve'. Obviously you make sure it stays in the time machine - if that gets spotted you are busted anyway - but you have something for comparison.
Or evidence of what you broke
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:34
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About the only thing that irritated me was the 'soft' version of a rock song (near the end). Such a hackneyed device.
And for this episode I withdraw my previous benefit of the doubt, having a line or two of 'mad world' might have been OK if decently subdued and actually qualifying for the word 'background' but having it that loud presumably they think we need the 'see that was a clever bit, pay attention' notification?

And yes we get it, things go a bit crazy because it's a time travel show with some extra background intrigue, we already flipping well know that, we really really don't need to be slapped in the face with a tune that says 'you are watching a show with some brain-prodding stuff in it' YES WE KNOW THAT IS WHY WE ARE WATCHING
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Old 22-12-2016, 15:57
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And for this episode I withdraw my previous benefit of the doubt, having a line or two of 'mad world' might have been OK if decently subdued and actually qualifying for the word 'background' but having it that loud presumably they think we need the 'see that was a clever bit, pay attention' notification?

And yes we get it, things go a bit crazy because it's a time travel show with some extra background intrigue, we already flipping well know that, we really really don't need to be slapped in the face with a tune that says 'you are watching a show with some brain-prodding stuff in it' YES WE KNOW THAT IS WHY WE ARE WATCHING
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:45
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You can see that after each episode, one or more of the characters will have an unexpected change in life. It's almost inevitable that the soldier's dead wife is going to show up alive after one trip...probably when he's just got it going with the lady Prof for some soapy drama.
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:08
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You can see that after each episode, one or more of the characters will have an unexpected change in life. It's almost inevitable that the soldier's dead wife is going to show up alive after one trip...probably when he's just got it going with the lady Prof for some soapy drama.
You presume way too much!
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Old 24-12-2016, 01:50
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The only thing that's bothered me is why Paterson Joseph's character the only one to have mentioned, let only cared, about why Flynn abducted Matt Frewer's scientist/the project leader according to PJ! At least I'm reasonably confident that we will see Matt in a future episode.
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Old 26-12-2016, 19:56
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I've just caught up with the second episode and, as with the first, I found it enjoyable and intriguing.

I'll keep my powder dry on the song thing.
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Old 29-12-2016, 11:37
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"Well it worked in Back To The Future 2"

At least they aren't trying to pretend there was never such a thing as time travel fiction, and certainly a mainstream one like BTTF is hard to ignore. As for the other factual part, I knew there had been lots of testing in that general area but had never thought much about who would be able to see the clouds, but given the distance and visibility, it seems a little obvious now...

On the other hand, there are some things that don't travel too well 'the long way round' and the inevitable can even be quantified to a degree - then again sometimes the specifics don't matter

No 'closing scenes tune' and credit where credit is due, I completely forgot to compliment the writers for that 'ffs get paperweights' last week
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Old 29-12-2016, 18:27
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Trying to download yesterday's ep on sky but it just says because of technical issue it can't be downloaded. Please try later. Bloody typical..😠
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Old 29-12-2016, 22:16
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I'm waiting for the "meeting themselves" episose; or the "time-ship goes wrong" one
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Old 30-12-2016, 10:17
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I'm waiting for the "meeting themselves" episose; or the "time-ship goes wrong" one
They could combine to form the "alternate universe" episode
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Old 30-12-2016, 10:58
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I'm waiting for them to invent velcro, there has to be one of those!


I don't think they are likely to go back far enough to turn the world into nothing but shrimp, so we don't have to be open to *all* possibilities, just the inevitabilities, and with time travel there's a few that definitely have to be covered, and I suspect we'll see some or hints of some or a way they managed to avoid some.
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:52
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Good fun, 45 minutes, a fresh new scenario every episode so no dragging.

This must be a very expensive production, where most series can use common sets and costumes , this one does not, how do they do it ?
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:49
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This must be a very expensive production, where most series can use common sets and costumes , this one does not, how do they do it ?
I'm not so sure about that - studios are big places with massive wardrobes, and locations can be borrowed from numerous other productions with a quick change just like at the panto where 'indoors' is the same as 'outdoors' but with less shrubbery.

Marginally more seriously, I think as long as something is set within the last few hundred years, there's enough costumery and adjustable sets available for it not to be insanely expensive - or I could be way off the mark but I think I'll hold off reading the background production info until we are further into the series because in spite of people;s best efforts, that sort of thing *always* has spoilers of heavy enough hints to count.
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Old 01-01-2017, 16:41
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I guess Matt Frewer's character Anthony must be a few years younger than Matt Frewer is, since there was no problem with him travelling to 1962 (MF was born in 1958).

As a general point, I would have thought that Flynn should be visiting the most recent years first, and working backwards through them, because otherwise how can he be sure that time won't have changed so much due to his visit to an earlier year that his plans would be ruined? e.g. the Hindenberg visit or the Abraham Lincoln one could have changed history so much that the atomic bomb wasn't invented before Flynn's birth?
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:17
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Also, if they are visiting a more recent time than they have visited previously, Lucy's knowledge of that time / event could be inaccurate as it will be from the original timeline instead of the one they are in now, another reason why the writers should be making the time jumps go further back each time.
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Old 01-01-2017, 17:53
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As a general point, I would have thought that Flynn should be visiting the most recent years first, and working backwards through them, because otherwise how can he be sure that time won't have changed so much due to his visit to an earlier year that his plans would be ruined?
Because the time he returns to will be in the time-line that was altered.

However, there is a subtle issue here. If the other lot returns after Flynn has started his return, there is the chance for them to make further changes, after Flynn has departed. Therefore the timeline that Flynn returns to would not have experienced those changes and would therefore be subtlety different from the one that the three return to.
There is no reason for them (one or the other) to think "job done, let's get outta here", they could linger after the main event and make further changes - such as knocking off one of Flynn's relatives, or even modifying the aftermath of the event that was changed.
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Old 01-01-2017, 18:32
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Because the time he returns to will be in the time-line that was altered.
Yes, but what I meant was, if he was always planning to go to 1962 and steal the plutonium, he should have done that first, instead of going to the Hindenberg first, then the Abraham Lincoln assassination, and running the risk of changing time so that the plutonium would not be available for him to steal at all.

However, there is a subtle issue here. If the other lot returns after Flynn has started his return, there is the chance for them to make further changes, after Flynn has departed. Therefore the timeline that Flynn returns to would not have experienced those changes and would therefore be subtlety different from the one that the three return to.
There is no reason for them (one or the other) to think "job done, let's get outta here", they could linger after the main event and make further changes - such as knocking off one of Flynn's relatives, or even modifying the aftermath of the event that was changed.
Good point. I wonder whether they could throw Flynn's plans completely off-balance that way, because unless he had already set off on his next trip by then, he would be unaware that the timeline had changed again, wouldn't he?
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:00
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Good point. I wonder whether they could throw Flynn's plans completely off-balance that way, because unless he had already set off on his next trip by then, he would be unaware that the timeline had changed again, wouldn't he?
I think the trick is to not take the time travel aspect too literally. It's merely a plot device to set each "adventure" in some well-known (to americans) event and do a bit of shooting.

For example, why don't they just go back in time to the day before the time-ship was stolen and stop it from happening? The whole series then gets compressed into 1 episode.
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:45
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For example, why don't they just go back in time to the day before the time-ship was stolen and stop it from happening? The whole series then gets compressed into 1 episode.
Sorry, that's not allowed, you have to go back further and shoot the guy who invents the time-ship *before* he invents it to make sure it never happens. You can't have a time travel show without a proper paradox
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:46
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I think the trick is to not take the time travel aspect too literally. It's merely a plot device to set each "adventure" in some well-known (to americans) event and do a bit of shooting.

For example, why don't they just go back in time to the day before the time-ship was stolen and stop it from happening? The whole series then gets compressed into 1 episode.
Because in this series, you can't go to a time which is during your own lifetime.
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:23
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Because in this series, you can't go to a time which is during your own lifetime.
You sure about that? They're going to 1972 in ep 6 which is certainly in the lifetime of at least one character.
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:28
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You sure about that? They're going to 1972 in ep 6 which is certainly in the lifetime of at least one character.
I have a theory about that. In certain situations you can go back to timelines like that but you cannot interact in any way shape or form with anyone who may be someway connected to you? Then again I'm unsure how that would work if that is true
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:39
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You sure about that? They're going to 1972 in ep 6 which is certainly in the lifetime of at least one character.
Well, that's what they said in episode 1 but who knows. Maybe by the time they get to ep 6 they will have changed things enough to wipe Matt Frewer's character out of existence in the new timeline, or maybe he won't be piloting either of the time machines by then?
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