Oh and go and pickle your walnuts.

Don't remember much screaming from Georgia, just the best dancing of last series, way better then blank face Jay. Better Charleston, better Samba, better AS.

She will probably have a better post Strictly career as well, way more engaging as a performer. She's my winner from last year.

How many ppl like screaming women and I'm a woman? Jay was very understated and non-assuming and plenty of folk like that. The fact that their wonderful jive was nowhere in sight during the final says everything about their belief in every other dance they did.

I agree too. You could see that he was enjoying every dance and yes, he made mistakes, but that's what I liked about him. I thought the judges had a bit of a downer on him in the final but the public had the final say.

You must be deaf if you don't remember her squealing and screaming whenever she got through. Is your Dad bigger than everybody else's too?

The most interesting thing to happen to him last year was a haircut.

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I can't be bothered debating with somebody who is so blinded by their like for a dancer, they end up resembling a child. The most interesting thing that happened to him last series was deservedly winning...deal with it.

I saw she was in Trollied but haven't seen any more about her but please let me know if she has done anything else. I did like her and much preferred her to Kellie.

Jay has the leading role in Big which might end up in the West End at some time.

Its called it being excited if she did it.

My Dad probably yes,

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Did not like that post, I'm too positive person to get bogged down with this.

Except when deserves to be - I have nothing against Ore (great AS and great jive) but God was that AT over-marked. The QS I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because judging by the response on here it was very marmite although it wasn't my cup of tea in a year that was full of great ones but the AT definately over-marked.

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You don't like me? Hang on, I will see if I've got any f***s left to give. So you're another hypocrite who talks of FMs demeaning others, whilst being nasty about a bloke you don't even know. Yes pot kettle indeed.

But she was in turn saved in the DO when Greg was better so at least she's benefitted from DOs decisions mostly been made on form rather than what's in front of them - personally I think the right decision was made on both occasions. She proved after Blackpool she deserved to stay in but to deny Danny the title or at least a crack at it would have been wrong.

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Not nasty just don't think he deserved to win and your right I don't like how you act on this forum. You demean people's opinions.

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As well as being deaf, do you also have trouble grasping what's been said about me not caring what you think? This is a forum and I've seen plenty of giggling emojis under FMs posts where they disagree and huddle in clusters to have a go. I have today apologised to one poster, who I felt I had been out of order to. The rest, who you've observed, I have no intention of making such apologies, because, as with you, they can have a go at celebrities but when its pointed out what hypocrites they are, they then feign shock. As for not being able to debate, try looking up objectivity; many adults use it.

No need for heated discussions or nastiness today. Its Finals day and lets enjoy it. It will all be over in a few hours time for another year.
Good luck to all dancers, I hope they dance their hearts out to entertain us, and I really don't mind who wins.

So I'm deaf.

Time to go. I have not being nasty to Jay and I am objective.

Shame others are not

Objective is not being biased. If your logic in disliking somebody is whether you like their dancing or not, it makes your personal opinion of me even more worthless.

Personally I feel that there is a perhaps a good reason for introducing two sets of marks like they have ice skating competitive dancing which in some ways resemble the SCD performances more than actual ballroom competitions. One set of marks is for the technical elements (technical merit) and one set of the performance aspects (artistic impression) even my mum is now saying this.

Sounds like a good policy - I've got people coming around so I may well end up doing the same thing.

Not true areas of England and Wales did - Londoners which I am a part of voting to remain as did Brighton, Leicester and quite a few of the mayor cities. I keep saying maybe London and Leciester should become city states with the new capital being Birmingham which voted to leave.

I will give you a better Samba as Jay didn't do a Samba

Whoops you got me there

I completely agree with that but I think they may well over-mark some more than others to justify their appearance there.

Well to be fair Kellie and Kevin should have won last year. Also, Kellie Bright is a far better dancer than Louise - if he wins with Louise yet lost with Kellie it'll just prove how farcical the show has been this year.

I think you've both illustrated how subjective this is and also perhaps the dilimena between what happens on the night and what happens over the course of the series. Personally I think Jay won for what he did over the series because his showdance was certainly the worst (to be honest I think Ailona and possibly Jay too knew that it didn't really matter what they did as long as they didn't produce a mess so they kinda of danced for themselves) and espeically for his jive although other dances such as his rhumba, salsa and the paso he did in the final were also good and I personally think it was right he won. This is not a sprint it's a marathon - the marks have to not be culmilative to give those who improve rather start out great a chance but at the end of the day the public vote can be about the whole story not the invididual performances on the night and there's nothing wrong with that.

Also it's worth pointing out although Kellie performed 'better' that two of the dances she did were charlestons so it's not as if she displayed a lot of variety in what she did - the phrase one trick pony comes to mind.