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Old 17-12-2016, 09:11
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This kind of thing simply alienates the UK public further against the EU and the more that happens, the more accepting they'll be of a full Brexit. So, in a way, the EU are just making the Governments job a lot easier.
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:39
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Really? the UK has been bent over backwards to by the EU? Why then is the UK the most outvoted nation in the EU?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...ope-study-MEPs
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:49
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That would be like inviting your spouse to join you when you're discussing negotiating tactics for your divorce.
Possibly but if one is still providing the income and servicing the house then perhaps being excluded should have consequences in that regard. It is however not at all like a divorce it is voluntary exit from a members club where the club rules state quite clearly that it holds in high regard the democratic rights of all its members and of all peoples. There is supposed to be no animosity it is the friendly parting of the ways of membership and progress into joint beneficial trading between neighbours. Or is the EU our enemy once we leave?
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:57
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to get this into perspective.

I wouldn't think Theresa is much for 'small talk' -she is the new girl at school who's arrived at the end of term when everyone's full of Christmas cheer and catching up with old mates.

It was a short clip - we all feel a bit odd and ostracised at times - I don't suppose it was like that for the whole time. People can be unthinking but I don't honestly think there was genuine animosity there.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:00
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It was made clear several times and accepted that immediately we would start seeing meetings where the UK are no longer at the table but i'm sure you and all other Brexiters know this as it has been made clear at every opportunity since the referendum that everyone who voted out is highly intelligent, watched every minute of every discussion (including recording and watching back all the ones from when they were at work) and made an educated decision based on knowing all the facts.
I repeat many things were made clear before the vote including the fact that Cameron would trigger article 50 immediately after the vote if Leave won and Osborne would introduce an emergency budget. So 'facts' were thin on the ground but predictions were all over the place. There is no doubt whatsoever that the UK will be, and should be, excluded from discussions after triggering article 50 as that is clearly stated until then however she is, and should be regarded as, a full participating member of the EU.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:03
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The caring sharing EU in all it's schoolyard bully glory.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:03
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But hang on it was the UK that pushed hard for the EU to expand rapidly, years ago Boris Johnson made a speech in the House of Commons wanting far bigger expansion than the current 27 countries, including his beloved Turkey.

Yet, one of the prominent cries of those who voted leave was about the UK parliament taking back control....the very politicians that pushed forward plans that you regard as a disaster.

The Social Care funding, NHS problems etc are directly down to the control UK politicians already have and want to give them more control to make a bigger mess of the country.
Do you suffer from comprehension problems? Have you not realised that the EU is favoured far more by politicians than it is by the populace...of any member country. The EU is a political football game designed by politicians, for politicians.

And it doesn't matter what the issues are on home soil, we still have incompetents vainly trying to deal with them.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:08
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The caring sharing EU in all it's schoolyard bully glory.
The country and government has made clear they don't want to be part of the EU gang so why be upset by this?
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:10
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Well if she is I have to laugh at the playground mentality of EU politicians.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:15
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Here's May shunning a threesome with Merkel & Shultz

Mrs May confirms she likes a bit of Swede for Christmas.

Mrs May in a 1 to 1 with the Prime Minister of Latvia at the Council meeting.

Mrs May head & shoulders above the rest..

What's that phrase...'every picture tells a story' or is it a story can be created from one photo? The Mail uses one picture of Mrs May looking glum after the EU meeting....except the photo was of her arriving.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:21
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The country and government has made clear they don't want to be part of the EU gang so why be upset by this?
I'm not "upset", far from it. I'm basking in another of their glorious displays of transparency and more confirmation of one of the many reasons I voted out.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:22
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Here's May shunning a threesome with Merkel & Shultz

Mrs May confirms she likes a bit of Swede for Christmas.

Mrs May in a 1 to 1 with the Prime Minister of Latvia at the Council meeting.

Mrs May head & shoulders above the rest..

What's that phrase...'every picture tells a story' or is it a story can be created from one photo? The Mail uses one picture of Mrs May looking glum after the EU meeting....except the photo was of her arriving.
Exactly - what is clear is that she obviously having an illicit affair with the Latvian prime minister - I'm fairly certain he was in the back of the car with her as she left.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:22
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Well if she is I have to laugh at the playground mentality of EU politicians.
Were you there?

Or are relying on the 'biased' media for their interpretation of events and have been sucker punched?

There are plenty of pictures showing May engaging in banter with others at the Council Meeting....but our media wanted to wind you and make you believe a certain sequence of events.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:28
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I repeat many things were made clear before the vote including the fact that Cameron would trigger article 50 immediately after the vote if Leave won and Osborne would introduce an emergency budget.
You just have stopped reading the news immediately after that if that was clear to you, then. Because what became clear immediately afterwards was that the emergency budget was vetoed by senior Tories. And even then the deficit target was abandoned immediately afterwards and we had our emergency budget rebranded and in October.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:31
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Were you there?

Or are relying on the 'biased' media for their interpretation of events and have been sucker punched?

There are plenty of pictures showing May engaging in banter with others at the Council Meeting....but our media wanted to wind you and make you believe a certain sequence of events.
Nope and neither were you and I did say "if she is" which seems to have been lost on you.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:33
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I'm not "upset", far from it.....
Your response confirms you are upset and have fallen for one of the oldest tricks played by the likes of the Mail.

On the other side, the video of her alone looking around does look funny.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:37
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I repeat many things were made clear before the vote including the fact that Cameron would trigger article 50 immediately after the vote if Leave won and Osborne would introduce an emergency budget. So 'facts' were thin on the ground but predictions were all over the place. There is no doubt whatsoever that the UK will be, and should be, excluded from discussions after triggering article 50 as that is clearly stated until then however she is, and should be regarded as, a full participating member of the EU.
You're confusing things that might happen with things that were seen as fact.
As i said, it wasn't just a matter of something that may happen in the worst scenario. We were told on multiple occasions and the phrase was used on multiple occasions on the News, debates and other political discussion shows that intermediately their would be meetings where we would no longer have "a seat at the table".
Also, for the record because you may have missed it, we did have an emergency amount added to the cuts because the interdependent forecast after the vote at a cost to the public of nearly £60 billion was nearly twice as bad as the £30 Osbourne predicted that was branded "project fear".
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:40
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Nope and neither were you and I did say "if she is" which seems to have been lost on you.
So you weren't there and are relying on the interpretation of what we are told on a daily basis a biased media....
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:42
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I'm not "upset", far from it. I'm basking in another of their glorious displays of transparency and more confirmation of one of the many reasons I voted out.
Holding meetings without your opponent in the room is good sense, not a lack of transparency.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:45
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Your response confirms you are upset and have fallen for one of the oldest tricks played by the likes of the Mail.

On the other side, the video of her alone looking around does look funny.
No, I assure you I'm really really not upset.
I have no doubts about the rag Mail and their ilk just as I have no doubts about the EU and their gang mentality which they've admirably demonstrated since the referendum.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:47
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Holding meetings without your opponent in the room is good sense, not a lack of transparency.
Was the content of the meeting she was not invited to entirely or even heavily weighted to the UK exit or did it consist predominantly of other EU matters?
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:56
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Was the content of the meeting she was not invited to entirely or even heavily weighted to the UK exit or did it consist predominantly of other EU matters?
It was the last meeting of the day and was behind schedule and reportedly lasted a mere 20 mins and discussed the UK leaving the EU.

Theresa May was involved in all the following...

EU Heads of State or Government meet on 15 December 2016 in Brussels to discuss migration and security issues. Leaders are also discussing economy and youth, as well as the issue of the ratification of the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement in the Netherlands
You'd think from some a brief 20 minute discussion at the end of the day was of more importance than security issues...but that's the British media for you, they know how to wind up its audience.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:01
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So you weren't there and are relying on the interpretation of what we are told on a daily basis a biased media....
If you say so, do you know the numbers for the winning lottery ticket?
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:17
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If you say so, do you know the numbers for the winning lottery ticket?
Indeed.

This in-fighting is typical cozy over-indulged gravy train ineptitude and apathy and 6 months on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38319340

One of the issues to be discussed by the 27 non-UK EU leaders is who will lead their negotiating team, amid tensions between the different EU institutions.
It is expected to be former EU Commissioner Michel Barnier who is in charge of the European Commission's Brexit team.

Former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt, who is leading the European Parliament's Brexit taskforce, claimed it could start separate negotiations with the UK unless EU leaders take "its role seriously".
He warned the European Commission not to "sideline" the Parliament.
Without doubt countless more extortionately expensive meetings will be needed before they actually manage to do anything constructive.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:15
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The country and government has made clear they don't want to be part of the EU gang so why be upset by this?
Yeah, the country has really made it clear, all 37% of it.
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