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Old 02-01-2017, 14:23
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And some people claim that darts is not a sport, they need to watch that and then try and back up their claim!
i'd say it's not a sport but a game of skill.
sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.

these guys are definitely highly skilled at the game, but they aren't sportsmen/women.

would you call dominoes a sport?
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Old 02-01-2017, 14:34
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i'd say it's not a sport but a game of skill.
sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.

these guys are definitely highly skilled at the game, but they aren't sportsmen/women.

would you call dominoes a sport?
The point that the Home Office don't recognise darts as a sport is why Kyle Anderson can't get a sporting visa and had to withdraw from Players and World Championships as he could not come to UK as had already spent too much time here in 2016.
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Old 02-01-2017, 14:43
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i'd say it's not a sport but a game of skill.
sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.

these guys are definitely highly skilled at the game, but they aren't sportsmen/women.

would you call dominoes a sport?
Would you call snooker a sport?
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Old 02-01-2017, 14:45
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Would you call snooker a sport?
sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.
i'm just giving my opinion, you are free to have a differing one.
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Old 02-01-2017, 14:46
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sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.
So that's a no, then.
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:04
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i'd say it's not a sport but a game of skill.
sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.

these guys are definitely highly skilled at the game, but they aren't sportsmen/women.

would you call dominoes a sport?
You don't think throwing/chucking a dart at a dartboard for hours on end is not physically taxing?
Especially if you mix that with the mental agility needed to work the maths out in a split second, and also to be able to be as consistently good as the top players are.

For me they most certainly are sports people, and deserve for their sport to be classified as such.
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Old 02-01-2017, 15:05
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sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.
i'm just giving my opinion, you are free to have a differing one.
We are going off track here but darts does have a physical element as you have to throw the dart at the board !

What made me laugh is bridge is trying to get a sports classification. Only reason to do this is they can then apply for money out of the sport lottery fund. If it's just a pastime they then can't try and get money from the lottery or Sport England etc.
There reason which has been thrown out is its mental activity. As said in this discussion a sport has to have physical activity.
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Old 02-01-2017, 16:16
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Unbelievable match and standard last night from both MVG and Barney.
Just hope MVG can reproduce the same tonight and grind Anderson into the dust!
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Old 02-01-2017, 16:44
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We are going off track here but darts does have a physical element as you have to throw the dart at the board !

What made me laugh is bridge is trying to get a sports classification. Only reason to do this is they can then apply for money out of the sport lottery fund. If it's just a pastime they then can't try and get money from the lottery or Sport England etc.
There reason which has been thrown out is its mental activity. As said in this discussion a sport has to have physical activity.
so does dominoes.. you have to move the pieces.
therefore dominoes must be a sport?

as i said, i'm not disputing that darts needs extreme skill (well the PDC does, BDO tends not to have much skill at all), but saying it's a sport is a stretch. just my opinion though.
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:15
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so does dominoes.. you have to move the pieces.
therefore dominoes must be a sport?

as i said, i'm not disputing that darts needs extreme skill (well the PDC does, BDO tends not to have much skill at all), but saying it's a sport is a stretch. just my opinion though.
Yawn, another BDO jibe.

Is that a foghorn I hear in the distance?

Booooooooooooring.
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:21
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Where has this chat come about? lol

Imagine Sid watching MvG the past few years, I would have loved for him to see a new level of darts
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Old 02-01-2017, 18:02
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My pre-final warm-up is watching West Ham vs Manchester United which is exciting for the wrong reasons as the referee has no idea what he's doing!

I don't really mind who wins the final later, it would be nice to see Anderson make it three in a row but if MvG turns it on again like last night we're in for another treat.

I'll be lending visual support to the BDO as well once this ends - I have liked the way people have defended its nature and appeal and by not watching it I would be more out of touch with the game as a whole.

Besides which, I want to see if the Silver Fox and Wolfie are still in it.
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Old 02-01-2017, 18:37
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sport, for me, has to have a physical element to it.
i'm just giving my opinion, you are free to have a differing one.
Why do people respect snooker or 9 ball pool in terms of physical element than darts

The IOC recognised darts as a sport a few years ago. Unless they were only recognising darts where competitors playing in WDF and BDO competition, not the PDC.

You potentially only need to pot 1 ball as the only thing you do all rack to win a 9 ball pool rack (perhaps not even that as you can potentially pot the 9 ball off the break every time) and in every rack you win to win the match. But you need to throw at least 9 darts in making 501 in every leg you win to win a darts match. Surely it's better feat to be the world darts champion than to be the 9 ball pool champion.
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Old 02-01-2017, 18:46
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Why do people respect snooker or 9 ball pool in terms of physical activity than darts.
i didn't
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Old 02-01-2017, 18:57
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Where has this chat come about? lol

Imagine Sid watching MvG the past few years, I would have loved for him to see a new level of darts

"Incredible!!!

Remember, back in the eighties you only needed a 90 average to become world champion, then a decade ago you needed 105 to 107 to beat Taylor, and now you need a 116 to 119 to beat Van Gerwen.

Phenomenal!!!"
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Old 02-01-2017, 19:06
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I do this andersons odds to win are pretty generous
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:06
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What time dose the match start? I don't want to sit through all the waffle
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:07
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Here we are then.

Michael van Gerwen versus Gary Anderson in the final of the 2017 William Hill World Darts Championship.

The best player in the world versus the double defending champion - which I think is the final we would have all taken had we been offered it 18 days ago.

All you can hope at this stage is that it lives up to its billing.
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:13
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Time to draw some conclusions.

Darts is a sport. End of. It is a professional pursuit involving specialised equipment, uniforms, scoring, skill, dexterity, durability (You try spending most of Xmas and New Year in a baking auditorium and chucking averages of 100+) and mental fitness. Also, it is shown on Sky Sports, BT Sport etc, and under BBC/ITV/C4 Sport banners.

The PDC and BDO are equal in eyes of the law in organising world championships. Regardless of perceived quality, both Scott Waites and Gary Anderson (and indeed Trina Gulliver) are the current World Darts Champions. Let's face it, it could be worse - could be boxing. The BDO suits people who like quieter crowds and suits players who have other jobs and prefer playing county darts week in week out. And due to being on terrestrial, it is seen by more TV viewers than the PDC. But then the PDC suits a different audience and a different type of player. The Lakeside will always be the "home" of darts in my humble opinion, but then I'm watching the Ally Pally one tonight just because I like the sport.

I also don't see any of the BDO critics, even fierce ones like Bisto, discredit any of their own world titles. Phil Taylor has won 16, not 14. Barney has won 5, not 1. John Part has won 3, not 1.
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:14
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As much as I admire and respect MvG, I have to cheer for the Scotsman tonight...

It's going to be a belter! GO GARY!
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:17
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Here we go..... anyone else got goosebumps?
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:21
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I also don't see any of the BDO critics, even fierce ones like Bisto, discredit any of their own world titles.
Really? I've heard fatty Bristow say that the BDO world title isn't a real world championship, so when I questioned that and asked him why he still refers to himself as a 5 time world champion, he didn't bother responding so I replied saying in that case I don't consider him a world champion, let alone a 5 time champion.
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:22
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Here we go.

I think 7-4 Anderson.
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:23
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How's that for starters!

122 finish on the bull in the very first leg
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Old 02-01-2017, 20:29
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Lost count of the amount of 180's already sheesh
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