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Contactless pubs!
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FusionFury
16-12-2016
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/16/contactless-self-serving-beer-pump-could-end-bar-queues/amp/

Great idea ! Will put many barmaids out of a job tho..
Fizix
16-12-2016
On my phone, in portrait (small), this thread read as "contactless pubes", I was intreagued...


Anyway... it's basically a vending machine then.
FusionFury
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fizix:
“On my phone, in portrait (small), this thread read as "contactless pubes", I was intreagued...


Anyway... it's basically a vending machine then.”

Do we need a barmaid though who is up herself?? Or staff who serve the favourites first? Sure se can do without that..

This seems like a quick way to get beer
ohglobbits
16-12-2016
Oh great, pubs are soon going have the charm of a European self service caff
IJoinedInMay
16-12-2016
One issue might be people who have had a bit too much to drink now being able to help themselves, without having the bar staff intervening and telling them they should consider going home.
Fizix
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“Do we need a barmaid though who is up herself?? Or staff who serve the favourites first? Sure se can do without that..

This seems like a quick way to get beer”

It may be quicker, and great if you don't like dealing with other human beings. But it all seems very "cold" (for want of a better word).
SmoggyTheTowny
16-12-2016
Oh god, I hope we don't get them here. It would be SO damaging to my bank balance, at least cash machines are a challenge that you can fail after a few.
David (2)
16-12-2016
Is there actually any demand for a pub?
Most now serve and rely on food to keep the business going. And that requires a bit more skill than a vending machine.
Andrew1954
16-12-2016
Oh, I see. I thought it was a pub you only had to walk past to get drunk.
Fairyprincess0
16-12-2016
When im in the Minerva, a lovely pub on hull marina, its always the same.

I but a cheap half.... Hear someone buying on contactless.... Buy a full pint... A pork pie... And some chips....
barbeler
17-12-2016
But surely this only works with fizzy keg beers.
TheEricPollard
17-12-2016
Is it like that fake pub in Chatter?
Lyricalis
17-12-2016
Staff are a major cost in pubs, so things that reduce staff are good for profits. Surely higher profits are good for everyone? After all we're all primarily supported by our share holdings and not by wages, right?
annette kurten
17-12-2016
the queue for guinness will be huge.
muggins14
17-12-2016
You still need bar staff to get you that bag of crisps, mix your drinks, open your mixer bottle or bottle of beer, clear away the glasses, wash them, all sorts. If all you want is what's in the pump, that's fine.

You also get to use your glass again I guess, which for health & safety you can't now - so you will be putting your glass around a pump that's been around many other glasses (if you touch your glass to the pump, which is sometimes unavoidable).
Zeropoint1
17-12-2016
A stupid idea which will obviously result in many more job losses while not reducing prices a single penny! Just as self service in supermarkets hasn't lowered prices.

My regular pub is a cocktail bar and at times service can be slow while the staff mix complex drinks, everything is from scratch with no pre-made mixers that some of the chain pubs use.

Also how is it going to be properly policed? One member of staff could perhaps be watching several pumps and serving on the standard pumps too as well as watching out for trouble, collecting and washing glasses and any other duties. What happens when some drunken idiot keeps ordering pints and is not noticed by that busy member of staff?
They will naturally be liable if anything goes wrong, whereas if they are serving in the usual way they can quite easily refuse the sale and if necessary as the person to leave.

How would 'top ups' work too? Would the unit pour exactly 568 Ml and if you had the glass at the wrong angle loose out? How would they ensure you received beer that was good quality and what would happen around barrel change time?

The pubs I drink in will pour a pint and see how poor the quality was and either draw more liquid through the lines until the quality improved or change the barrel. I've certainly seen it where the entire barrel was bad and the landlord kept changing the pint.
Lyricalis
17-12-2016
There is already a fully automated cocktail machine available. Apparently cruise ships are very interested in installing them.

They can automate away as long as we stop pretending that there will always be enough jobs for everyone and bring in a basic income.
Zeropoint1
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lyricalis:
“There is already a fully automated cocktail machine available. Apparently cruise ships are very interested in installing them.

They can automate away as long as we stop pretending that there will always be enough jobs for everyone and bring in a basic income.”

Where will the money for this basic income actually come from if there are fewer jobs paying taxes in the first place?
Lyricalis
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Zeropoint1:
“Where will the money for this basic income actually come from if there are fewer jobs paying taxes in the first place?”

Use google and look up the many pages people have written explaining that. It's pretty much the first question people ask.
Zeropoint1
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lyricalis:
“Use google and look up the many pages people have written explaining that. It's pretty much the first question people ask.”

So no actual answer then?
Bless You
17-12-2016
It gets a thumbs down from me. We already have many problems here associated with our drinking culture, I can only see this making it worse. Profit before the welfare of others as always.
dreadnought
17-12-2016
Hopefully it would be limited to one pint per transaction otherwise you'll just get stuck behind some knobhead trying to buy a dozen pints for all his mates
albertd
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“One issue might be people who have had a bit too much to drink now being able to help themselves, without having the bar staff intervening and telling them they should consider going home.”

If the machines were half as complicated as some of the self service car park machines around here, by the time the staff would have intervened they would be incapable of working it anyway!
tealady
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Lyricalis:
“There is already a fully automated cocktail machine available. Apparently cruise ships are very interested in installing them.”

Shaken not stirred - hmmm.
FusionFury
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by David (2):
“Is there actually any demand for a pub?
Most now serve and rely on food to keep the business going. And that requires a bit more skill than a vending machine.”

Does a barmaid require getting paid minimal wage for pouring a pint is that a skill worthy of minimal wage when it shoots up in a few years? that's what this will save pubs money on, staff.. so pubs can survive for longer and not close at a rate of 27 a week now.
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