Now that tonight's show's over, I can go back and watch it properly. 
Strictly Come Dancing FINAL Sat 17th December at 6:40pm OFFICIAL THREAD
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I honestly think now that the beginning dances matter the most in terms of the votes.
I power voted for Ore in the first two rounds as he easily beat Louise / Danny.
Danny's showdance was ruined by the mirror choreography which I did not get. He did not need that.
When Danny wowed me with the Samba I think it was too late in terms of reaching him in the vote.
I power voted for Ore in the first two rounds as he easily beat Louise / Danny.
Danny's showdance was ruined by the mirror choreography which I did not get. He did not need that.
When Danny wowed me with the Samba I think it was too late in terms of reaching him in the vote.
The best dancer won it on the night. That cannot be denied. Congratulations Ore and Joanne.
What a great series - the standard has been so high.
And thanks to everyone on the forum - see you all next year!
What a great series - the standard has been so high.
And thanks to everyone on the forum - see you all next year!
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I am so LOVING the positivity on the thread. Seriously.
I'm drunk and emotional, but it's just great that Ore has been acknowledged as good ENOUGH on the night.
Danny was great. Louise was lovely.
It's been a WONDERFUL series and a FABULOUS final.
And for a die hard Ore fan the board has been very hard, so thank you.
Bugger, I appear to have delivered an Oscar acceptance speech.
Never mind.
”
“I am so LOVING the positivity on the thread. Seriously.
I'm drunk and emotional, but it's just great that Ore has been acknowledged as good ENOUGH on the night.
Danny was great. Louise was lovely.
It's been a WONDERFUL series and a FABULOUS final.
And for a die hard Ore fan the board has been very hard, so thank you.
Bugger, I appear to have delivered an Oscar acceptance speech.
Never mind.
”
So pleased for you and Ore! Had your work cut out defending him!
Originally Posted by RobMiles:
“Hopefully that will stop any stupid Racism accusations next year.”
“Hopefully that will stop any stupid Racism accusations next year.”
Well until the first three black celebrities get voted off again. Then they will say the same thing like they did this year
Oh and well done on reaching your milestone
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“Really pleased for Ore & Joanne!
I did suspect it wasn't the Danny & Oti foregone conclusion so many expected...”
“Really pleased for Ore & Joanne!
I did suspect it wasn't the Danny & Oti foregone conclusion so many expected...”
Well the DO last week must have been a rather BIG clue
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Danny ballsed up the QS, so not sure what the point about semi-final dances is.
Agreed on Claudia though - no doubt should have had Louise's space”
“Danny ballsed up the QS, so not sure what the point about semi-final dances is.
Agreed on Claudia though - no doubt should have had Louise's space”
The judge's choice was a bit random for Louise; they should have given her ballroom (maybe the Viennese Waltz or the Foxtrot) where she'd have an actual chance to show off her strengths.
I'm not sure who chose the Showdance music but that didn't make the most of her skills either.
Originally Posted by jiroos:
“Wanted Danny & Oti but very pleased that the most deserving couple won on the night.
I also predicted that we could have out first black Strictly winner this year as soon as Ore was announced. and, as a fellow Nigerian, I'm so happy he did it.
Didn't previously like Jo but she and Oti have been standout choreographers this year so very well done to her...especially as she was so gracious in sitting out last year. Proof that all good things come to those who wait!”
“Wanted Danny & Oti but very pleased that the most deserving couple won on the night.
I also predicted that we could have out first black Strictly winner this year as soon as Ore was announced. and, as a fellow Nigerian, I'm so happy he did it.
Didn't previously like Jo but she and Oti have been standout choreographers this year so very well done to her...especially as she was so gracious in sitting out last year. Proof that all good things come to those who wait!”
What about Alesha?
Ore had three good dances, but may have pipped it on the showdance by not doing a faffy contemporary style dance
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Well until the first three black celebrities get voted off again. Then they will say the same thing like they did this year
Oh and well done on reaching your milestone”
“Well until the first three black celebrities get voted off again. Then they will say the same thing like they did this year
Oh and well done on reaching your milestone”
I didn't realise that was going to be my 1000th message. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I honestly think now that the beginning dances matter the most in terms of the votes.
I power voted for Ore in the first two rounds as he easily beat Louise / Danny.
Danny's showdance was ruined by the mirror choreography which I did not get. He did not need that.
When Danny wowed me with the Samba I think it was too late in terms of reaching him in the vote.”
“I honestly think now that the beginning dances matter the most in terms of the votes.
I power voted for Ore in the first two rounds as he easily beat Louise / Danny.
Danny's showdance was ruined by the mirror choreography which I did not get. He did not need that.
When Danny wowed me with the Samba I think it was too late in terms of reaching him in the vote.”
For many votes, none of the dances matter. (They didn't make any difference to how I voted, for instance.)
But also many people will vote soon after the voting opens, which tonight meant the at most only one of tonight's dances influenced their decision.
Originally Posted by mogglet:
“Wow did not expect that. Well Done Ore and Joanne.”
“Wow did not expect that. Well Done Ore and Joanne.
”
me neither, but its evident what a great family they all become so I'm loving the 'teammanship' loved tonight. All 3 deserving finalists and a great outcome. Danny was my favourite but Ore was fantastic too, and the public vote wins so well done, and nice to see Joanne Clifton grab the trophy that,s a first !!
I,m just really happy
Well done Ore but I didn't really love the showdance, not as good as the AS and a little too similar for me. His Jive however blew me away again.
Louise lovely AT, Cha Cha needed more oomph but of all the showdances hers moved me more than any. Absolutely beautiful but then I love contemporary with a bit of ballroom thrown in.
Danny overall best dancer imo, not sure how he didn't win it.
Loved all the dancing, best final ever.
Louise lovely AT, Cha Cha needed more oomph but of all the showdances hers moved me more than any. Absolutely beautiful but then I love contemporary with a bit of ballroom thrown in.
Danny overall best dancer imo, not sure how he didn't win it.
Loved all the dancing, best final ever.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“What about Alesha?”
“What about Alesha?”
I love it how people say Ore is the first Black celebrity to win Strictly
When Alesha Dixon won it a few years ago
Or does she not count
Very happy for Joanne winning because I really like her Ore not so much, sorry, not a fan of his personally
Ore not so much, sorry, not a fan of his personally
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“What about Alesha?”
“What about Alesha?”
She's mixed race, and so her win wasn't enough. (That's how the discussion went.)
Wonderful show and fabulous winner. I really didn't expect that result. I've loved all of this years celebrities... so lovely seeing them all again.
Bye Len.😢
Bye Len.😢
Originally Posted by Kittygodfree:
“I am not at all surprised by the result given the promotion of them in the last couple of weeks, it is not surprising , given the aforesaid promotion, how their stock rose considering they were in the bottom two twice.”
“I am not at all surprised by the result given the promotion of them in the last couple of weeks, it is not surprising , given the aforesaid promotion, how their stock rose considering they were in the bottom two twice.”
It fits the pattern of recent years. The public vote follows the judges - except when it feels that a Denise or Natalie is too experienced or it takes a dislike to someone . Most reality audiences also fall for whatever storyline the producers push - and they have been pushing Ore's journey repeatedly for weeks. Danny is clearly very qualified, Louise didn't have a journey story and didn't hit great peaks of being spectacular or emotionally moving , and Ore has been hyped for weeks, had his path to the final cleared for him, had the journey story given him, and been given most marks on the night.
They could have easily substituted Ore and Louise - and built similar stories and claims for Daisy, Laura or Claudia , and had Balls or Rinder there for more fun , if they had wanted to.
Originally Posted by ticketyboo10:
“In previous years, the judges were so picky about hand shaping and not having Spatulistic hands..but clearly thats not important anymore.
Karen Hardy explained that Ore and Louises semi final dances were littered with errors..her words not mine.
And finally, winning with wobbles..remember how picky they were about Caroline and Kimberley needing to fix that..and yet we have wobbles getting 10s.
So glad i decided to boycott watching the final live..the clips and the comments on facebook were far more entertaining than the show which has sadly lost its shine.
i agree with previous poster Danny is the best dancer never to have won Strictly, and the final was lacklustre without Claudia.”
“In previous years, the judges were so picky about hand shaping and not having Spatulistic hands..but clearly thats not important anymore.
Karen Hardy explained that Ore and Louises semi final dances were littered with errors..her words not mine.
And finally, winning with wobbles..remember how picky they were about Caroline and Kimberley needing to fix that..and yet we have wobbles getting 10s.
So glad i decided to boycott watching the final live..the clips and the comments on facebook were far more entertaining than the show which has sadly lost its shine.
i agree with previous poster Danny is the best dancer never to have won Strictly, and the final was lacklustre without Claudia.”
I would add Colin Jackson to that.
Loved Danny and Oti all the way through but Ore and Joanne were terrific tonight.
Great night's entertainment.
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“So pleased for you and Ore! Had your work cut out defending him!”
“So pleased for you and Ore! Had your work cut out defending him!
”
Thank you darling.
It's been WORTH it though.
(And I really liked Claudia, shame she wasn't in the final).
Originally Posted by Veri:
“For many votes, none of the dances matter. (They didn't make any difference to how I voted, for instance.)
But also many people will vote soon after the voting opens, which tonight meant the at most only one of tonight's dances influenced their decision.”
“For many votes, none of the dances matter. (They didn't make any difference to how I voted, for instance.)
But also many people will vote soon after the voting opens, which tonight meant the at most only one of tonight's dances influenced their decision.”
I always vote on performance for the finale night.
Ore earned my votes.
Danny disappointed during the first half. Like Natalie Gumede against Abbey.
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I love it how people say Ore is the first Black celebrity to win Strictly
When Alesha Dixon won it a few years ago
Or does she not count”
“I love it how people say Ore is the first Black celebrity to win Strictly
When Alesha Dixon won it a few years ago
Or does she not count”
She didn't count enough for some of the arguments that were being made.
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