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Old 23-12-2016, 15:23
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Generally I would say it was more complex compared to Ore's but then if you dance a competition, complex choreography doesn't necessarily win it for you. Simpler choreography can sometimes be more appealing depending on whether it is presented with wit and charm. It is the execution that is important. I'm not saying difficulty is not a consideration but It's not like some sports where the level of difficulty is used to multiply up the marks.

Also, in my view, Danny won the semi final dance off even though Claudia's QS choreography was more complex and better executed. So in that instance the luck went his way.

I'm not doing Danny down. I really like him. Right up to the final I was going to vote for him, but then changed my vote to Ore. For me Danny did present the best overall package throughout the series, but not in the final. However I just wonder sometimes what people are referring to when they mention good technique, because ballroom technique is very specific.
Thank you for that. It's been nice conversing with you on the forum and in the Ed/Katya thread, so Happy Christmas Ann.
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:20
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To be fair, Louise's storyline started before DS got hold of it. I think that was always going to be her narrative (apart from the stifling Jamie bit at any rate). Her first couple of dresses were - particularly the launch show thing - hideous and completed long before anyone got a chance to comment. She even did an interview at launch time reiterating how un body confident she was.

I'm not saying the story wasn't ran with - but it was handed over virtually fully formed.
I thought the dresses were ugly but I never really got the whole "dowdy"/"mumsy" thing really. Only the jive dress really seemed like a "cover-up" to me and by Week 2 she was in a dress with a back open almost to her bum-crack and we all remember what they stuck her in for Movie Week in Week 3.
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:49
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Thank you for that. It's been nice conversing with you on the forum and in the Ed/Katya thread, so Happy Christmas Ann.
Have a good Christmas Maggie. I've enjoyed chatting to you too! 😊⛄️🌲
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:02
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Generally I would say it was more complex compared to Ore's but then if you dance a competition, complex choreography doesn't necessarily win it for you. Simpler choreography can sometimes be more appealing depending on whether it is presented with wit and charm. It is the execution that is important. I'm not saying difficulty is not a consideration but It's not like some sports where the level of difficulty is used to multiply up the marks.

Also, in my view, Danny won the semi final dance off even though Claudia's QS choreography was more complex and better executed. So in that instance the luck went his way.

I'm not doing Danny down. I really like him. Right up to the final I was going to vote for him, but then changed my vote to Ore. For me Danny did present the best overall package throughout the series, but not in the final. However I just wonder sometimes what people are referring to when they mention good technique, because ballroom technique is very specific.
That you for your balanced and informative opinion on this. Ore is doing well out of this, Danny is doing well out of this. A friend of mine who follows cricket reckoned that the experience of SCD revived Mark Ramprakash's career and extended it a bit - he thinks it's timing that did it and I wonder if it just boosted his confidence and either would help Claudia too and she's in a line of sport where more musicality will directly help her floor rountines at least. I think a lot of the cast of 2016 will do well out of it and god luck to them they all seem like nice people. Louise will I think will carry on well as always but she seems to have had fun and people enjoying watching her do it.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:12
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I thought the dresses were ugly but I never really got the whole "dowdy"/"mumsy" thing really. Only the jive dress really seemed like a "cover-up" to me and by Week 2 she was in a dress with a back open almost to her bum-crack and we all remember what they stuck her in for Movie Week in Week 3.
Yeah but that was her story and she must have lost the stone (or however much it was) she said she wanted the lose before she wore the revealing stuff in all the pre launch gubbins.

The dresses were horrid though. Whatever was going on at the back, the front looked to have been designed around a two man tent.
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:21
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That you for your balanced and informative opinion on this. Ore is doing well out of this, Danny is doing well out of this. A friend of mine who follows cricket reckoned that the experience of SCD revived Mark Ramprakash's career and extended it a bit - he thinks it's timing that did it and I wonder if it just boosted his confidence and either would help Claudia too and she's in a line of sport where more musicality will directly help her floor rountines at least. I think a lot of the cast of 2016 will do well out of it and god luck to them they all seem like nice people. Louise will I think will carry on well as always but she seems to have had fun and people enjoying watching her do it.
I think this competition had some of the nicest celebs we've seen on Strictly and I hope they do all take something positive from it. I can see what Mark R meant about it enhancing his timing. Dancing can be very therapeutic and life enhancing even for us 'ordinary' mortals.
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Old 23-12-2016, 22:14
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Yeah but that was her story and she must have lost the stone (or however much it was) she said she wanted the lose before she wore the revealing stuff in all the pre launch gubbins.

The dresses were horrid though. Whatever was going on at the back, the front looked to have been designed around a two man tent.
have to say I was never her biggest fan either...but, whatever her image, momsy or otherwise, it seemed to work. She was never in the bottom two, the only celeb who achieved that. She may not have won, but last bird standing at 42 isn't too shabby imo.

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Old 23-12-2016, 22:26
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I think you seriously need to read the dictionary honey.

In years to come Ore will be talked about as a winner of SCD .

It will also always be mentioned that Danny was a lot better than him.

He just was, objectively he has much better technique and danced much more complex dances,


You don't happen to have liked him and happen to prefer Ore.

Fair enough, but posting that Ore was the better dancer and smashed it in the final out dancing Danny is your subjective opinion, repeating it obsessively doesn't make it true. Both made mistakes, the voting public preferred Ore, fine.

In fact repeating something that can objectively be shown to be untrue makes you look odd!

If you want to appreciate Danny and don't want too read anything where people say that Ore wasn't the better dancer I suggest you go where that view is accepted, actually I think you may be in a very small group there, even as small as 1.

On the night people voted for him, that does not mean that they thought he was the better dancer, they just preferred what he danced.
you are asked to vote for your favorite, you were not told to dance for the better dancer this year though you were last year. More votes does not equal better dancer. Christopher Parker proved that in season one. It's fairly well established now!

Oh I miss the rolley eyes!
correct..great response...
len's two standing ovations in the SF/final helped his cause too. The tom chambers-lite numbers along with the 'showmanship' from O'blubber won the day with the public over the much better dancer in danny.
But in years to come, as Danny said himself, SCD 2016 will really be remembered for...... Ed Balls!!

merry xmas!
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Old 24-12-2016, 11:59
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sounds more like bah humbug to me...
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Old 31-12-2016, 11:46
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have to say I was never her biggest fan either...but, whatever her image, momsy or otherwise, it seemed to work. She was never in the bottom two, the only celeb who achieved that. She may not have won, but last bird standing at 42 isn't too shabby imo.

merry xmas!
Nor me but good on her. Happy New year.
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