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Originally Posted by boysforpele To be brutally honest, now that I've just found that out, I don't think Louise deserves to be on SCD. One thing is having prior dance training (when learning to be an actor) but to be a JUDGE on a dancing show, wow, that takes the biscuit! Sorry, not wishing to be unkind but I hope Louise doesn't win tonight.
"Louise perhaps has the most dance background as she trained with Italia arts academy with a dance specialism and was even a judge on so you think you can dance owing to her dance credentials." |
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I am slightly disappointed how the contestants dance experience is being unfairly used against them.
Danny Mac went to an arts school and played parts on the west end and he has had to publicly defend himself and his previous experience. Whereas Louise perhaps has the most dance background as she trained with Italia arts academy with a dance specialism and was even a judge on so you think you can dance owing to her dance credentials. Yet this is overlooked and ignored. On the final take two - judges/guest judges spoke about how both Ore and Louise came from nowhere in terms of dance ability, but Danny had professional training. This sounds like unfairness to me. Clearly Ore is the only one with no prior dance training. And one would suggest that Louise is the most experienced and trained dancer. How come no one has queried the fact that Ore did that Jive in week THREE...the same week that Jay did his and was slaughtered for 'previous'..?? Something tells me that Ore isn't the novice that the BBC have painted him...in fact compare him to the 'real' novices...Ed/Greg/Melvin/JR....you simply can't can you... |
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I agree...louise has dance experience and I would go further...
How come no one has queried the fact that Ore did that Jive in week THREE...the same week that Jay did his and was slaughtered for 'previous'..?? Something tells me that Ore isn't the novice that the BBC have painted him...in fact compare him to the 'real' novices...Ed/Greg/Melvin/JR....you simply can't can you... |
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I agree...louise has dance experience and I would go further...
How come no one has queried the fact that Ore did that Jive in week THREE...the same week that Jay did his and was slaughtered for 'previous'..?? Something tells me that Ore isn't the novice that the BBC have painted him...in fact compare him to the 'real' novices...Ed/Greg/Melvin/JR....you simply can't can you... |
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I thought Ore had done some kind of dance for red nose
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You need to find evidence for that claim... Every now and again people keep bringing it up but there is no evidence for it.
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To be brutally honest, now that I've just found that out, I don't think Louise deserves to be on SCD. One thing is having prior dance training (when learning to be an actor) but to be a JUDGE on a dancing show, wow, that takes the biscuit! Sorry, not wishing to be unkind but I hope Louise doesn't win tonight.
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I agree with you. Danny went to DRAMA school where he did his best to avoid the dancing because he wanted to act instead. He then played an understudy in Wicked (read: not every night) and the character he played had one basic dance.
Louise went to an Arts school and focused heavily on dance. She was also a JUDGE on a dancing competition. Funny how that gets glossed over! |
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To the people who are studying under magnifying glass Danny's "dance experience" based on a character.
How about Louise's DANCE TRAINING EDUCATION AND JUDGING ON SYTYCD?! Let's be fair to all ok? |
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To the people who are studying under magnifying glass Danny's "dance experience" based on a character.
How about Louise's DANCE TRAINING EDUCATION AND JUDGING ON SYTYCD?! Let's be fair to all ok? ![]() In all seriousness, I agree that if everyone was a straightforward beginner, it would be a dull series. I don't mind some stage school experience. This year though, having Danny and Louise in it has taken it a bit too far and I am uncomfortable with it. I often laugh when people start claiming overmarking and undermarking by the judges. It doesn't seem right to have people being judged by the same criteria when some of them have a great advantage over the others. It wouldn't surprise me if they try and balance things up a little which would explain things...
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I must admit in the past I haven't tended to get all that involved with voting or all that bothered who actually wins. In all the years of SCD I think the only result I had some kind of issue with was when Pixie Lott went out, but part of that maybe was because I liked Pixie Lott
![]() However the problem I have had with Danny, is that from minute 1 he has looked like someone who with a bit of polish could pass as a background pro on Strictly. Im all for people having an aptitude for dance and showing it off through progression, but Danny just seems to overstep a line imo. His only real issue was that weird linked Foxtrot (why? ) although ofcourse it did give the judges a solid chance to criticise him and a solid chance for him to come back from it so to speak. Ofcourse he has had to go out there and do it every week and hats off to him, but its flowed just that bit too easily imo. |
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Ore is the only one left who has no previous dance experience.
He is the only non-ringer left. |
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Reading this thread has made me laugh
![]() ![]() ![]() To sum up: Louise is massively trained (up to 16) and a terrible, awful ringer. Ore is also trained as he danced once for comedy ![]() Danny studied only Drama (although other sources disagree) and he just sat on a chair when he was in Wicked for years. Righto then.
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According to Kristina Rihanoff they've all had dance training, including Ore. Not sure how true that is but I wouldn't be surprised if Ore did too. Jay admitted, after winning, to dance training before Strictly.
He did Sports Science at university. |
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I must admit in the past I haven't tended to get all that involved with voting or all that bothered who actually wins. In all the years of SCD I think the only result I had some kind of issue with was when Pixie Lott went out, but part of that maybe was because I liked Pixie Lott
![]() However the problem I have had with Danny, is that from minute 1 he has looked like someone who with a bit of polish could pass as a background pro on Strictly. Im all for people having an aptitude for dance and showing it off through progression, but Danny just seems to overstep a line imo. His only real issue was that weird linked Foxtrot (why? ) although ofcourse it did give the judges a solid chance to criticise him and a solid chance for him to come back from it so to speak. Ofcourse he has had to go out there and do it every week and hats off to him, but its flowed just that bit too easily imo. It's because him and Oti work hard. The saying "practice makes perfect" is SO true for Danny and Oti. |
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Another judge called Louise out as not really knowing much about dance. Yes she did ballet and the Italia Conte, then she moved a bit on stage and hasn't done anything like that for years. While I doubt you forget the basics I am not sure she is a ringer as such. And she's been totally honest about it.
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Ore has DENIED this, and there is no evidence.
He did Sports Science at university. |
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I agree...louise has dance experience and I would go further...
How come no one has queried the fact that Ore did that Jive in week THREE...the same week that Jay did his and was slaughtered for 'previous'..?? Something tells me that Ore isn't the novice that the BBC have painted him...in fact compare him to the 'real' novices...Ed/Greg/Melvin/JR....you simply can't can you... However, no one has been able to come up with any proof so we have to take his word for it. I am just sick of hearing that he has had no dance training and that he was able to do that jive because he has an aptitude for dancing. Sorry, I for one don't buy it. |
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just watched it on you tube...he did Hey Ya by Outkast in 2013 for comic relief...take a look at the vid and see .....if he REALLY looks like a novice to you.....
To be fair I think with some natural ability and someone training you, you could make a dance look good with a week of focus...which is what they all do in Strictly. The first dance 3 weeks. My problem with this is the whole 'didn't even dance at his own wedding' as if he was too shy or something. Quote:
You need to find evidence for that claim... Every now and again people keep bringing it up but there is no evidence for it.
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The fact that he presents ballet productions with Darcey says he must know something about dancing. There'd be no other reason to have a sports presenter presenting it.
Their communication and co presenting helped explain ballets power and appeal. It was inspired actually. Ore was just up for it. He may have been interested in dancing though, a LOT of people are who don't know very much. |
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Reading this thread has made me laugh
![]() ![]() ![]() To sum up: Louise is massively trained (up to 16) and a terrible, awful ringer. Ore is also trained as he danced once for comedy ![]() Danny studied only Drama (although other sources disagree) and he just sat on a chair when he was in Wicked for years. Righto then. ![]() |
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According to Kristina Rihanoff they've all had dance training, including Ore. Not sure how true that is but I wouldn't be surprised if Ore did too. Jay admitted, after winning, to dance training before Strictly.
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To be fair I think with some natural ability and someone training you, you could make a dance look good with a week of focus...which is what they all do in Strictly. The first dance 3 weeks. My problem with this is the whole 'didn't even dance at his own wedding' as if he was too shy or something.
It hasn't stopped people claiming Danny danced in Wicked which he actually didn't. His character stood at the side as evidenced upthread by someone who saw it and by Danny himself. Making out he's a west end star already has cost him votes. And will tonight probably. And as OTHERS have said, Danny must have been ensemble if he was understudying, and that involves dancing - so .... Do any of you REALLY believe Danny is a beginner? REALLY? His faults are even typical W E chorus - too light on his feet, technique not down, but showmanship etc. I agree he wasn't any sort of WE star though. I'm sure he'll have a bit of a run after Strictly, but I don't think he's got 'star' in him, personally. |
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Nope, he was there as a Sports presenter to help bring ballet a more populist and less 'niche' posh image.
Their communication and co presenting helped explain ballets power and appeal. It was inspired actually. Ore was just up for it. He may have been interested in dancing though, a LOT of people are who don't know very much. |
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In all seriousness, I agree that if everyone was a straightforward beginner, it would be a dull series. I don't mind some stage school experience. This year though, having Danny and Louise in it has taken it a bit too far and I am uncomfortable with it. I often laugh when people start claiming overmarking and undermarking by the judges. It doesn't seem right to have people being judged by the same criteria when some of them have a great advantage over the others. It wouldn't surprise me if they try and balance things up a little which would explain things...

) although ofcourse it did give the judges a solid chance to criticise him and a solid chance for him to come back from it so to speak. 