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Old 21-12-2016, 14:50
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They could an actress in her late 20s/early 30s for Ivy and an actress in her mid 30s for Catwoman.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:31
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What about Jessica Chastain as Poison Ivy?
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:39
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Once again, DC just reacting without any plan in mind. Have any of the Marvel movies been spin-offs? No, because they have a clear goal.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:53
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Yep that is crazy but does Catwoman have to be the same age as Batman?

If Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn are both young actress then you would assume that Catwoman would be the same age!

Although maybe Catwoman would be the letter of the Sirens but even so I would go for someone in their late thirties not someone like Uma who is older than Affleck by only 2 years!
Because Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy are not love interests for Batman whereas Catwoman is. I personally don't want to see a 40 year old man snogging a 22 year old on camera. The Catwoman actress should be no younger than 35.

it's sexist to say that a 42 year old actress can't be a love interest for a 40 year old actor.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:55
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Yeah I can't see how this will work unless Catwoman is within the same age range as Ben Affleck. As said him snogging a 20 year old would just look wrong. He is playing an older version of Batman anyway so surely him and Catwoman will have crossed paths before now? perhaps we might see her pop up in his solo film first.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:45
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Are the teens not going to be able to cope with seeing an older Catwoman?
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:59
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They've already changed things by having Metropolis right next to Gotham, is there a particular reason why they have to stick with the traditional Batman / Catwoman relationship? There's something not quite right when, in a film that will have three central female characters, the main talking point is the age of one of them because it may not apparently fit in with - a supposed - relationship with a man, a man who at best may have nothing more than a cameo role. If ever there was a film that allowed these characters the opportunity to step out of the shadow of their traditional roles of love interests, then surely this is it.
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Old 22-12-2016, 18:05
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I don't see what the problem is? if Batman at 40 falls in love with Catwoman at say 24 is it really an issue? as long as the story is plausible it would work.
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Old 23-12-2016, 04:20
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If Margot's in I'm in.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:48
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From the perspective of logic, and regarding Harley Quinn, can anyone give me a sound reason why Amanda Waller would want Harley Quinn (an unstable woman with no actual powers) on her squad? Every other member of the Suicide Squad has a reason (or at the least, some skills) to be there. Harley Quinn ... doesn't?

Deadshot - skilled assassin
Captain Boomerang - more of a gadget guy
Killer Croc - skilled swimmer, enhanced strength
El Diablo - Fire Starter
Slipknot - Another assassin, skilled with ropes and mounting objects
Enchantress (I'm aware she was the villain, but initially she was supposed to be a member of the team) - she was an ancient Witch
Katana - skilled swordswoman/fighter
Harley Quinn - has a hammer?
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:13
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From the perspective of logic, and regarding Harley Quinn, can anyone give me a sound reason why Amanda Waller would want Harley Quinn (an unstable woman with no actual powers) on her squad? Every other member of the Suicide Squad has a reason (or at the least, some skills) to be there. Harley Quinn ... doesn't?

Deadshot - skilled assassin
Captain Boomerang - more of a gadget guy
Killer Croc - skilled swimmer, enhanced strength
El Diablo - Fire Starter
Slipknot - Another assassin, skilled with ropes and mounting objects
Enchantress (I'm aware she was the villain, but initially she was supposed to be a member of the team) - she was an ancient Witch
Katana - skilled swordswoman/fighter
Harley Quinn - has a hammer?
In the animated series Harley was given a toxin by Poison Ivy it gave her exceptional strength and agility and it's most likely why she survived her two falls (one pushed out of the window by Joker and falling down a cliff fighting Batgirl) it also gave her immunity to most toxins as well.

She was also a skilled gymnast and an exceptional hand to hand combatant.

http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Harley_Quinn

It wasn't explained in Suicide Squad but we did see glimpses of her gymnast skills when she was fighting in the lift and in the scene in the office also when she grabbed onto the rope.

Her abilities will probably be explored more in her The Gotham City Sirens movie especially as it also will star Poison Ivy.
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Old 24-12-2016, 15:15
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They've already changed things by having Metropolis right next to Gotham, is there a particular reason why they have to stick with the traditional Batman / Catwoman relationship? There's something not quite right when, in a film that will have three central female characters, the main talking point is the age of one of them because it may not apparently fit in with - a supposed - relationship with a man, a man who at best may have nothing more than a cameo role. If ever there was a film that allowed these characters the opportunity to step out of the shadow of their traditional roles of love interests, then surely this is it.
Let's not use "they've changed so much already" as an excuse to what would clealy be sexist casting - especially when much of what they've changed has been criticised. Older actresses face barriers in getting work as it is, but it's particuarly offensive when the role is actually age appropriate for them - and I say this as a 27 year old.

I don't see what the problem is? if Batman at 40 falls in love with Catwoman at say 24 is it really an issue? as long as the story is plausible it would work.
In Batman v Superman Bruce Wayne said he'd been fighting crime for 20 years and it's been confirmed that he already has known the villains for years... that means if you cast a 22 year old Catwoman then he started dating her on and off at worst when she was a baby, at best in her early teens. Does that make sense? I think not.
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Old 26-12-2016, 14:23
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My comment about not wanting Uma was referring to me wanting a Catwoman in her late Thirties if she would be leader of the Sirens are not related to the fact of Catwoman relationship with Batman

Although I asked if Catwoman has to be the same age of Batman?

I'm sorry if you found those comments sexiest as they were not intended to be as my post was not related to the relationship between Catwoman and Batman.However I can see how you would think that with other posters previous posts!
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Old 26-12-2016, 14:40
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Let's not use "they've changed so much already" as an excuse to what would clealy be sexist casting - especially when much of what they've changed has been criticised. Older actresses face barriers in getting work as it is, but it's particuarly offensive when the role is actually age appropriate for them - and I say this as a 27 year old.
Personally I'd rather she her defined by her own characteristics whatever her age rather than casting her to conform to a traditional role of love interst for some other character who wont even be a focus of the film.
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Old 31-12-2016, 13:49
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Does anyone know what year they are planning to release this film?

As it seems WB/DC are packed with films up to 2020 as I'm guessing the Batman solo film and Man Of Steel sequel sequel would get priority so it might not be 2021 onwards that we get to see this film!
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:32
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My comment about not wanting Uma was referring to me wanting a Catwoman in her late Thirties if she would be leader of the Sirens are not related to the fact of Catwoman relationship with Batman
Personally I'd rather she her defined by her own characteristics whatever her age rather than casting her to conform to a traditional role of love interst for some other character who wont even be a focus of the film.
Again, let's not use, "having a character defined by her personality rather than who she's sleeping with!" as an excuse to evade age sexism. People are saying that she has to be younger and I'm saying not only does she not have to be younger but she shouldn't because we know she has been Catwoman for 20 years at this point. It makes no sense.

Gotham Sirens will not exist in a vaccum. This is a shared universe franchise where characters are going to be interacting with each other in other movies. In the case of Catwoman who is a side character in a bigger story a huge part of her character is her relationship to Batman and the two crossing paths will be inevitable. It can't be avoided.

In the Batman universe Ben Affleck was cast first and the moment that decision was made it affected all other casting decisions going forward. If Kate Beckinsale had been cast as Catwoman first I would be saying the same thing about Batman and how he would need to be age appropriate.
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Old 31-12-2016, 15:57
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As much you/we dislike the idea of changes to the established universe, based on the fact that it is has already happened, it is a possibility that it could happen again. I'm not saying we have to like it, and suggesting the possibility is not endorsing any kind of discrimination, it's simply highlighting, the obvious - that it is a possibility. In that context, Catwoman need not be bound by her relationship with Batman, and if so she can be any age. Again, it's just something which at this point is still only a possibility.
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Old 31-12-2016, 17:19
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From the perspective of logic, and regarding Harley Quinn, can anyone give me a sound reason why Amanda Waller would want Harley Quinn (an unstable woman with no actual powers) on her squad? Every other member of the Suicide Squad has a reason (or at the least, some skills) to be there. Harley Quinn ... doesn't?

Deadshot - skilled assassin
Captain Boomerang - more of a gadget guy
Killer Croc - skilled swimmer, enhanced strength
El Diablo - Fire Starter
Slipknot - Another assassin, skilled with ropes and mounting objects
Enchantress (I'm aware she was the villain, but initially she was supposed to be a member of the team) - she was an ancient Witch
Katana - skilled swordswoman/fighter
Harley Quinn - has a hammer?
I would've thought Harley's 'super-power' was rather obvious -- she looks like Margot Robbie !
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