Oh the irony

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38345826



Seems Farage forget to mention this.

I don't think he 'forgot' to mention it - I think he simply didn't know and just chooses to make up any old rubbish and lies to persuade people.

He rarely went to any of the meetings on EU Fishing policy - he talks as if he's very knowledgeable but really he's just a grade A bullshitter.

Who managed to fool enough of the people that believed what he said.

Good. They deserve what they get. Its called democracy.

There is no risk of the UK, including the fishing industry, not having access to the single market, the only issue will be under what terms and as ever the equivalent access to the UK market from the EU is ignored.

Perhaps you can provide proof to back up your claim?

What claim?

That "There is no risk of the UK, including the fishing industry, not having access to the single market"

Suppose the EU agreed a deal for financial services to carry on operating across Europe but wanted stringent restrictions on fishing as part of the deal, what do you think the British Government would do?

So true. In fact true of many politicians.

Why just the other day there was the bizarre spectacle of someone on here claiming that a certain politician was most likely right about Putin having influenced the referendum. Although the vast majority of those with even a smidgeon of common sense tried to point out that this was utter nonsense, this particular poster still insisted that, even though she didn't know how it could be possibe, there was most likely some truth in it.

And how others did laugh.

All members of the WTO have access to the single market.

I assume your question relates to a FTA between the EU and the UK. If so your scenario is a rather bizarre example of whatiffery and I've no idea why the EU would make such a demand or how the UK government would respond to it.

Exactly my point, you have no idea what, if any, deal will be done between the EU and the UK so you cannot claim that "There is no risk of the UK, including the fishing industry, not having access to the single market" given that fishing is a tiny part of our GDP compared to financial services.

The single market is an internal market to the eu.

We will not have access to it.

The EU as a WTO member would be unable to impose tariffs on fish imports from the UK that are any different to those it imposes on other non-EU countries.

Speculating about what the terms of a future FTA between the UK is a rather pointless exercise especially as some are saying it could take up to 10 years to conclude but by all means knock yourself out.

Unless no non-EU country exports anything to the EU that sounds like pedantry.

NO access at all now is the latest trolling angle? DS is back to normal then. Shame, there was actual conversation happening yesterday before most noticed it was back up.

Oh the bollocks!

How many times?............. We will still have access to the Single market after Brexit, at minimum it will be on the terms the rest of the world trade with the EU.

We will be able to buy and sell fish all over the world without any EU restrictions and we can keep our own fish instead of letting the EU take the vast majority out of our waters.

We might let them fish in our territory but it will be our way or the highway.




Maggie

The single market is unfettered access to trade, capital and resources. Who else in the world has access to that?

Having high import duties only works if you could source it yourself. If the fish are only available from the UK, then they would only be increasing THEIR own costs.

It is perverse that the other EU countries can fish in UK waters, and take those fish elsewhere and involve no UK economic activity or tax.

Every country in the world trades with the EU market. It's a fact, what are you on about?

We won't be trading internally, so what? With that comes not only no tariffs but restrictions on what deals we can arrange with the rest of the world, a much much bigger market and also we have to let the EU take our fish, and also forces us to buy overpriced food through the CAP

Tariffs nowadays are pretty minimal anyway. Currency movements are way more important than tariffs.



Maggie

but we already have access to this 'world' market, and if tariffs are already pretty minimal then we are going to get no benefit from negotiating these trade deals you refer to.

Again, I look forward to cheaper food when we leave, although how that is going to happen has yet to be explained to me.

We have access to world's markets but cannot arrange beneficial trade deals with other countries whilst we are within the EU. Once we are out we will be able to.

We are one of the worlds biggest economies and run a trade deficit making us a very attractive proposition for making a deal.

Canada was very keen on an EU deal, however that is largely because of the UK who comprise over 40% of its total trade with the EU.



Maggie

Make your mind up, you said tariffs were minimal anyway. How are trade deals going to bring the huge benefits you claim if tariffs are already low.

And again, if the uk is attractive because it is one of the worlds largest economies, using your logic, the EU is even more attractive because it is the worlds largest economy.

Pure rubbish, I used to be a fisherman and the EU was the worst thing that happened to it. You do realised fish are a limited resource? It's not easy to get good quality fish of species from anywhere except the UK waters, the EU will be begging us for OUR fish.

Of course they will. Large quantities of UK fish and shellfish are exported to the EU. Farage the parasite and hypocrite played no part in the EU fishing committee of which he was a paid member. Sucking up to Trump is the only thing he is interested in now.

It is the Remoaners who keep bigging up the tariff free internal market. I agree it is no big deal for the UK.

We will still be better off out than in. Any reduced trade will tend to help our balance of payments in any event, money we will have available to help us arrange other deals.



Maggie