Almost all food is VAT free, so very little loss in tax revenue from cheaper food. If consumers spend the money saved elsewhere it's likely to be subject to VAT so possibly increasing tax revenue.

Lidl source their products primarily from UK farming so more money to UK farming.

Outside the EU the UK could tax profits made in the UK. The UK has had tax laws on this repeatedly overturned by the EU as not accordance with EU freedom of movement of capital.

Lidl pays its supermarket workers more than the likes of Tesco, so even if there is no net gain in jobs it benefits workers. Higher wages also benefits the government through less in work benefits and any increase in income tax and national insurance paid.

UK pension funds are not restricted to investing in Tesco and not investing in Lidl.

I suppose whether we are in or out of the EU, single market or customs union then people will still need to eat and if there is an economic crunch it will be the discount retailers who will benefit.

There is nothing stopping the uk taxing profits and the EU has nothing to do with it.

Good for Lidl. A foreign country showing how to co-operate for the common good. I wonder how many Brexit buffoons will swallow their prejudice and ignorance and use the new Lidl stores.

The Court of Justice of the European Union the highest court for EU law disagrees with you and has repeatedly ruled UK tax laws that have taxed profits made in the UK that are offshored unlawful. The EU has enabled mass tax avoidance.

Actually I do, and am off to Waitrose right now. Plus my son works for another of the big names, in charge of mostly min wage East European contract workers who collect up online orders. And a niece is a second tier manager in another of the giants, earning an impressive salary for retail.

Since Thatcherism took over, 36 years ago, british industry has more or less shut down. I dont think moving some admin jobs from brexiting britain, back into the Eurozone ''for strategic reasons'', will make much difference .......

To add to my previous reply on the EU court ruling UK tax laws unlawful.

There have been numerous cases in the past, costing the UK many tens of billions in both lost future tax revenue and in refunds of taxes ruled unlawful by the EU. At the time of the referendum alone the Treasury had £7.2 billion set aside for legal claims and had its contingent liabilities estimated at £35.6 billion if it lost current tax cases in the EU court, and that was just the current cases at the time not all the past cases lost. The EU has repeatedly ruled UK tax laws unlawful under EU law. Corporations use the EU directives designed to enable free movement of capital and prevent double taxation to avoid UK tax on profits made in the UK.

Nonsense. While there has been a shift in the UK economy from manufacturing to services, we still have the fourth biggest manufacturing sector in the EU. That's nothing like "more or less shut down" and what we do make tends to be at the higher margin end of the market - precision engineering, pharma/biotech etc.

That's why so many discounters have all their goods in a heap on the floor.

Talk about prejudice and ignorance. And bizarre.
Many people who very much like Europe, fellow Europeans, products from the mainland and often visit are greatly looking forward to leaving the EU.
It's the same as finding FIFA appalling while loving football.
I'm sure plenty of happy Lidl shoppers voted Brexit, not everyone views life in such a restricted way as you appear to do, but it's an interesting insight to a certain aspect of the Remain psyche.

Probably at least as many who ever bought Ford, Vauxhall or Citroen cars. Perhaps in your case a Norman bike or perhaps a Gilliot.

Lidl are known as a good employer as far as supermarkets go.

Maybe we should close supermarkets and go back to "Open All Hours" style shops where the shopkeeper has to personally get you everything? And separate fishmongers, butchers, greengrocers, haberdashery shops etc? This would create needed jobs.

Obviously, shopping at Harrods for everything, you wouldn't know this, but Lidl isn't low quality food at all. Lots of its products are excellent.

considering you mention other people working for supermarkets but not yourself, i'll presume you don't, and like i said before you don't spend much time in supermarkets. the only time you spend is when shopping apart from some exceptions? is that a fair assessment?

that's wrong for a start. secondly supermarkets sell more than food. supermarkets bring in a considerable amount of VAT

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/rates-of...s-and-services

"Food and drink for human consumption is usually zero-rated but some items are standard-rated, including alcoholic drinks, confectionery, crisps and savoury snacks, hot food, sports drinks, hot takeaways, ice cream, soft drinks and mineral water."

basically you've just demonstrated in a single post how little you know about VAT


clearly you don't understand what you are talking about


more than what? what is the comparison? that's just a nonsense vague statement


as the UK is in the EU that point is irrelevant.


firstly this is just generalising, and a vague and therefore meaningless statement.

secondly, where is your proof?


it won't benefit the workers who lose their jobs though, will it?

you have no idea if there will be an overall benefit or loss, do you? because you have no facts and figures to work with


not necesarily if there are oveall less workers and less people contributing and the overall taxes paid in are less


with so many random, nonsense and incorrect answers, like throwing mud at a wall you have an answer that sticks

Apart from if you work there or sit at the door. begging, what else might you be doing in a supermarket other than shopping?

Well let's hear your supermarket experience, I'm not sure mine is of any relevance here, but you are clearly trying to make some kind of point which is passing some of us by. If it helps, I spent three years working for a major retailer, but not on shop floor, mostly in provenance and marketing.
And obviously as I often share a table with a warehouse supervisor and shopfloor section manager I do hear quite a lot of trolley tales.
But I'm now intrigued about your apparent expertise....

Maybe Unique is head of Tesco or walks round with a clipboard in Morrisons. Stores like those are awash with people like that and people who try to shepherd you to a different queue or self-scan screen. No such nonsense in either Lidl or Aldi where people are generally better paid and trained in several disciplines like the girl setting up the babanas can drop on the till just like that.

Tesco have lost their way. The majority of shoppers don't care about brand names, they just want good food at cheap prices. The local Tesco has given over a big chunk of floor space to Burtons and Dorothy Perkins so clearly things aren't going well. You would think they would re-think their strategy but they don't seem to be. The layout of the store is terrible, you have to walk all over the place to get the things you want. Aldi and Lidl are the future, Waitrose will survive for the wealthy and la di da, Tesco, Sainsburys and Morrisons will continue to struggle.

Tesco profits are actually on their way up again.

Do you not understand the meaning of the word usually?


More than the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, etc. The cheaper supermarkets Lidl and Aldi source more of their produce from UK farming than the more expensive supermarkets.


As the UK is leaving the EU its relevant.


No it's a specific statement Lidl pay their supermarket workers more than the likes of Tesco.

You can look up what they pay their supermarket workers online, and in a earlier post I gave the rates they pay.

The UK has low and falling unemployment, and increasing job vacancies. I expect they will get another job. Maybe a better paid job.

Lidl pay their staff more than Tesco and sell their food cheaper than Tesco. In terms of staff to sales Lidl is one employee per £260,00 sales, Tesco is one employee per £204,000 sales. So Lidl staff are more productive. That is good for the better paid worker, good for the customer paying less, good for the government's finances in terms of in work benefit payments and any income tax and national insurance payments, and good for Lidl that is expanding.

Overall the UK has very low and falling unemployment, a increasing number of job vacancies and increasing average pay.


Simply dismissing the truth does not change the reality Lidl's expansion is good news.

That is not reflected in my local superstore. Footfall seems to be way down from previous years. As stated, large portions of the store have been given over to clothing retailers (and even those sections seem to be relatively customer free).

Latest Tesco report.
2016/2017 Tesco interim report.
statutory profit before tax £71m, down 28.3% from £99m

Little Englanders cherry-picking as usual. They want all the benefits but none of the responsibilities. The Del Boy culture only works on the telly.