Are those 5000 people there to put paint thinner in the gravy?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38352738
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38352738
Lidl to create 5000 jobs despite Brexit
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Originally Posted by SmoggyTheTowny:
“Is the increase in staff to ensure the off brand goods they sell are actually safe for consumption?”
“Is the increase in staff to ensure the off brand goods they sell are actually safe for consumption?”
What makes you think Lidl's off brand suppliers are more prone to producing food unfit for consumption.
While this year its Lidl's Kania gravy last year it was Bisto that had to recall gravy due to contamination.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Obviously, shopping at Harrods for everything, you wouldn't know this, but Lidl isn't low quality food at all. Lots of its products are excellent.”
“Obviously, shopping at Harrods for everything, you wouldn't know this, but Lidl isn't low quality food at all. Lots of its products are excellent.”
I've been to a Lidl and it is low quality, low cost food. If you don't know that I assume is because you know no better.
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“Actually I do, and am off to Waitrose right now. Plus my son works for another of the big names, in charge of mostly min wage East European contract workers who collect up online orders. And a niece is a second tier manager in another of the giants, earning an impressive salary for retail.”
“Actually I do, and am off to Waitrose right now. Plus my son works for another of the big names, in charge of mostly min wage East European contract workers who collect up online orders. And a niece is a second tier manager in another of the giants, earning an impressive salary for retail.”
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“Well let's hear your supermarket experience, I'm not sure mine is of any relevance here, but you are clearly trying to make some kind of point which is passing some of us by. If it helps, I spent three years working for a major retailer, but not on shop floor, mostly in provenance and marketing.
And obviously as I often share a table with a warehouse supervisor and shopfloor section manager I do hear quite a lot of trolley tales.
But I'm now intrigued about your apparent expertise....”
“Well let's hear your supermarket experience, I'm not sure mine is of any relevance here, but you are clearly trying to make some kind of point which is passing some of us by. If it helps, I spent three years working for a major retailer, but not on shop floor, mostly in provenance and marketing.
And obviously as I often share a table with a warehouse supervisor and shopfloor section manager I do hear quite a lot of trolley tales.
But I'm now intrigued about your apparent expertise....”
the point is you are making comments without having much experience on what you are talking about, just as i could tell initially from your comments
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I've been to a Lidl and it is low quality, low cost food. If you don't know that I assume is because you know no better.”
“I've been to a Lidl and it is low quality, low cost food. If you don't know that I assume is because you know no better.”
Wow...just wow.
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I've been to a Lidl and it is low quality, low cost food. If you don't know that I assume is because you know no better.”
“I've been to a Lidl and it is low quality, low cost food. If you don't know that I assume is because you know no better.”
Yet again you're talking nonsense. You have great form on here for that. When did you last visit one? It may have been the case that Lidl's food was bad 10 years ago, but these days lots of the food is as good or if not better than most supermarket brands and own brands. It also regularly wins awards for its food. It has become quite fashionable for well paid middle class shoppers to go there too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shop...dle-class.html
Originally Posted by Mark_Jones9:
“Do you not understand the meaning of the word usually?”
“Do you not understand the meaning of the word usually?”
yes i do. what is your point? have you forgotten what you actually said originally? the long and short of it is you were wrong with that you said
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More than the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, etc. The cheaper supermarkets Lidl and Aldi source more of their produce from UK farming than the more expensive supermarkets.”
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More than the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, etc. The cheaper supermarkets Lidl and Aldi source more of their produce from UK farming than the more expensive supermarkets.”
prove it. where did you get the data to provide such an answer?
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As the UK is leaving the EU its relevant.”
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As the UK is leaving the EU its relevant.”
that's not strictly true. there is no guarantee the UK will leave the EU
what is true is as i said before the UK is in the EU. so your point is irrelevant
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No it's a specific statement Lidl pay their supermarket workers more than the likes of Tesco.”
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No it's a specific statement Lidl pay their supermarket workers more than the likes of Tesco.”
wrong again. and you've just generalised again, and furthermore produced no evidence or data
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You can look up what they pay their supermarket workers online, and in a earlier post I gave the rates they pay.”
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You can look up what they pay their supermarket workers online, and in a earlier post I gave the rates they pay.”
so in a nutshell you can't prove what you say, and you are trying to disguise this fact by saying words to the effect of go find it yourself cuz i can't
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The UK has low and falling unemployment, and increasing job vacancies. I expect they will get another job. Maybe a better paid job.”
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The UK has low and falling unemployment, and increasing job vacancies. I expect they will get another job. Maybe a better paid job.”
so you don't disagree with what i said?
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Lidl pay their staff more than Tesco and sell their food cheaper than Tesco.”
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Lidl pay their staff more than Tesco and sell their food cheaper than Tesco.”
wrong. you sre simply generalising yet again
prove both of these things and state where you obtained your data
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In terms of staff to sales Lidl is one employee per £260,00 sales, Tesco is one employee per £204,000 sales.”
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In terms of staff to sales Lidl is one employee per £260,00 sales, Tesco is one employee per £204,000 sales.”
prove it. where did you get this data?
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So Lidl staff are more productive.”
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So Lidl staff are more productive.”
prove it. where did you get the data for this?
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That is good for the better paid worker,”
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That is good for the better paid worker,”
that's simply a matter of opinion, not a fact
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good for the customer paying less,”
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good for the customer paying less,”
this isn't necesarily even true
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good for the government's finances in terms of in work benefit payments and any income tax and national insurance payments,”
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good for the government's finances in terms of in work benefit payments and any income tax and national insurance payments,”
this is just factual nonsense
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and good for Lidl that is expanding.”
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and good for Lidl that is expanding.”
this is more nonsense. it's subjective at best and won't be proven either way for a while
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Overall the UK has very low and falling unemployment, a increasing number of job vacancies and increasing average pay.”
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Overall the UK has very low and falling unemployment, a increasing number of job vacancies and increasing average pay.”
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“Simply dismissing the truth does not change the reality Lidl's expansion is good news.”
“Simply dismissing the truth does not change the reality Lidl's expansion is good news.”
i'm not dismissing the truth. i'm pointing out the nonsense and factual innacuracies of what you are saying, and whether it's "good news" is simply a matter of opinion, not fact
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Yet again you're talking nonsense. You have great form on here for that. When did you last visit one? It may have been the case that Lidl's food was bad 10 years ago, but these days lots of the food is as good or if not better than most supermarket brands and own brands. It also regularly wins awards for its food. It has become quite fashionable for well paid middle class shoppers to go there too.”
“Yet again you're talking nonsense. You have great form on here for that. When did you last visit one? It may have been the case that Lidl's food was bad 10 years ago, but these days lots of the food is as good or if not better than most supermarket brands and own brands. It also regularly wins awards for its food. It has become quite fashionable for well paid middle class shoppers to go there too.”
I would suggest that a supermarket that sells low quality food would not stay open for long, and, Lidl are expanding
Lidl. In 1973 Lidl, pronounced LEE DULL, opened its first discount store in Germany and has over 8000 stores in Europe including 500 in the UK.
Originally Posted by John146:
“I would suggest that a supermarket that sells low quality food would not stay open for long, and, Lidl are expanding
Lidl. In 1973 Lidl, pronounced LEE DULL, opened its first discount store in Germany and has over 8000 stores in Europe including 500 in the UK.”
“I would suggest that a supermarket that sells low quality food would not stay open for long, and, Lidl are expanding
Lidl. In 1973 Lidl, pronounced LEE DULL, opened its first discount store in Germany and has over 8000 stores in Europe including 500 in the UK.”
Err strange you responded to me? It should be kidspud. I said exactly what you're saying. Lidl's food was pretty bad around 10 or 15 years ago, but it certainly isn't now.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Err strange you responded to me. It should be kidspe. II said exactly what you're saying.”
“Err strange you responded to me. It should be kidspe. II said exactly what you're saying.”
Err yes you are right.......
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Yet again you're talking nonsense. You have great form on here for that. When did you last visit one? It may have been the case that Lidl's food was bad 10 years ago, but these days lots of the food is as good or if not better than most supermarket brands and own brands. It also regularly wins awards for its food. It has become quite fashionable for well paid middle class shoppers to go there too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shop...dle-class.html”
“Yet again you're talking nonsense. You have great form on here for that. When did you last visit one? It may have been the case that Lidl's food was bad 10 years ago, but these days lots of the food is as good or if not better than most supermarket brands and own brands. It also regularly wins awards for its food. It has become quite fashionable for well paid middle class shoppers to go there too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shop...dle-class.html”
i pop in very infrequently maybe a couple of times a year. my experience is much of what they sell is cheap low quality stuff. perhaps the things i don't buy are those that win awards, but looking in the freezer department there are poor excuses for frozen pizzas and stuff. in regards to wine, one of the areas people often point to as being good quality, i've never found it good myself compared to deals at other supermarkets. perhaps shoppers there don't have the same experiences in wine buying at other stores as a comparison. comparing like for like the choices they have may sometimes compare well, but personally i don't find they have the choices that i like. but perhaps the offers and choices are more reflective of the tastes of customers originaly from outside the UK. certainly the branding of products seems to suggest this. tastes may vary in other countries
Originally Posted by unique:
“yes i do. what is your point? have you forgotten what you actually said originally? the long and short of it is you were wrong with that you said
prove it. where did you get the data to provide such an answer?
that's not strictly true. there is no guarantee the UK will leave the EU
what is true is as i said before the UK is in the EU. so your point is irrelevant
wrong again. and you've just generalised again, and furthermore produced no evidence or data
so in a nutshell you can't prove what you say, and you are trying to disguise this fact by saying words to the effect of go find it yourself cuz i can't
so you don't disagree with what i said?
wrong. you sre simply generalising yet again
prove both of these things and state where you obtained your data
prove it. where did you get this data?
prove it. where did you get the data for this?
that's simply a matter of opinion, not a fact
this isn't necesarily even true
this is just factual nonsense
this is more nonsense. it's subjective at best and won't be proven either way for a while
i'm not dismissing the truth. i'm pointing out the nonsense and factual innacuracies of what you are saying, and whether it's "good news" is simply a matter of opinion, not fact”
“yes i do. what is your point? have you forgotten what you actually said originally? the long and short of it is you were wrong with that you said
prove it. where did you get the data to provide such an answer?
that's not strictly true. there is no guarantee the UK will leave the EU
what is true is as i said before the UK is in the EU. so your point is irrelevant
wrong again. and you've just generalised again, and furthermore produced no evidence or data
so in a nutshell you can't prove what you say, and you are trying to disguise this fact by saying words to the effect of go find it yourself cuz i can't
so you don't disagree with what i said?
wrong. you sre simply generalising yet again
prove both of these things and state where you obtained your data
prove it. where did you get this data?
prove it. where did you get the data for this?
that's simply a matter of opinion, not a fact
this isn't necesarily even true
this is just factual nonsense
this is more nonsense. it's subjective at best and won't be proven either way for a while
i'm not dismissing the truth. i'm pointing out the nonsense and factual innacuracies of what you are saying, and whether it's "good news" is simply a matter of opinion, not fact”
There is certainly a guarantee we're leaving the EU. We've had a vote and we're going. Get over it.
Originally Posted by unique:
“i pop in very infrequently maybe a couple of times a year. my experience is much of what they sell is cheap low quality stuff. perhaps the things i don't buy are those that win awards, but looking in the freezer department there are poor excuses for frozen pizzas and stuff. in regards to wine, one of the areas people often point to as being good quality, i've never found it good myself compared to deals at other supermarkets. perhaps shoppers there don't have the same experiences in wine buying at other stores as a comparison. comparing like for like the choices they have may sometimes compare well, but personally i don't find they have the choices that i like. but perhaps the offers and choices are more reflective of the tastes of customers originaly from outside the UK. certainly the branding of products seems to suggest this. tastes may vary in other countries”
“i pop in very infrequently maybe a couple of times a year. my experience is much of what they sell is cheap low quality stuff. perhaps the things i don't buy are those that win awards, but looking in the freezer department there are poor excuses for frozen pizzas and stuff. in regards to wine, one of the areas people often point to as being good quality, i've never found it good myself compared to deals at other supermarkets. perhaps shoppers there don't have the same experiences in wine buying at other stores as a comparison. comparing like for like the choices they have may sometimes compare well, but personally i don't find they have the choices that i like. but perhaps the offers and choices are more reflective of the tastes of customers originaly from outside the UK. certainly the branding of products seems to suggest this. tastes may vary in other countries”
You need to look again and stop being a bit of a snob. The meats and cheeses are excellent. The baked goods are good too. Their main weakness for me is their fruit and veg. But most other stuff is very good.
Originally Posted by John146:
“I would suggest that a supermarket that sells low quality food would not stay open for long, and, Lidl are expanding
Lidl. In 1973 Lidl, pronounced LEE DULL, opened its first discount store in Germany and has over 8000 stores in Europe including 500 in the UK.”
“I would suggest that a supermarket that sells low quality food would not stay open for long, and, Lidl are expanding
Lidl. In 1973 Lidl, pronounced LEE DULL, opened its first discount store in Germany and has over 8000 stores in Europe including 500 in the UK.”
some people may not mind low quality items if they are cheap and people are on a budget
many businesses thrive by selling low quality low cost items. primark and similar stores do so for clothing for example. stuff that may not come out very well after the first wear or wash
there's stores like iceland that sell all sorts of frozen "food" made up of factory processed animal parts and chemicals that few people would disagree was low quality, and they've done ok for a number of years
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“There is certainly a guarantee we're leaving the EU. We've had a vote and we're going. Get over it.”
“There is certainly a guarantee we're leaving the EU. We've had a vote and we're going. Get over it.”
wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever
Originally Posted by unique:
“some people may not mind low quality items if they are cheap and people are on a budget
many businesses thrive by selling low quality low cost items. primark and similar stores do so for clothing for example. stuff that may not come out very well after the first wear or wash
there's stores like iceland that sell all sorts of frozen "food" made up of factory processed animal parts and chemicals that few people would disagree was low quality, and they've done ok for a number of years”
“some people may not mind low quality items if they are cheap and people are on a budget
many businesses thrive by selling low quality low cost items. primark and similar stores do so for clothing for example. stuff that may not come out very well after the first wear or wash
there's stores like iceland that sell all sorts of frozen "food" made up of factory processed animal parts and chemicals that few people would disagree was low quality, and they've done ok for a number of years”
I suggest you click on the telegraph article I linked to in my previous post. If it were that low quality, then why would it be becoming more and more popular with the middle classes?
Originally Posted by unique:
“wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever”
“wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever”
Not wrong. There is. The government would not get away with keeping us in. The vote was to leave. We're going. Grow up and accept it.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“You need to look again and stop being a bit of a snob. The meats and cheeses are excellent. The baked goods are good too. Their main weakness for me is their fruit and veg. But most other stuff is very good.”
“You need to look again and stop being a bit of a snob. The meats and cheeses are excellent. The baked goods are good too. Their main weakness for me is their fruit and veg. But most other stuff is very good.”
not liking what a store offers does not make someone a snob. i have no interest in the meats and cheeses or baked goods. as i pointed out before, the things i'm not interested in may be those what win awards, but that store does not offer the things i am interested in. that's why you have different stores competing in different ways by appealing to different tastes and customers
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Not wrong. There is. The government would not get away with keeping us in. The vote was to leave. We're going. Grow up and accept it.”
“Not wrong. There is. The government would not get away with keeping us in. The vote was to leave. We're going. Grow up and accept it.”
you are wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever. you need to accept that simple fact. the whole brexit planning is a complete and utter shambles. we've not even confirmed our intentions formally of wanting to leave the EU
there's absolutely nothing you can say to change that fact
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I suggest you click on the telegraph article I linked to in my previous post. If it were that low quality, then why would it be becoming more and more popular with the middle classes?”
“I suggest you click on the telegraph article I linked to in my previous post. If it were that low quality, then why would it be becoming more and more popular with the middle classes?”
if it were what low quality?
the reason the store may be more appealing to people is simple. because it offers cheap goods and people look to save money. middle classes may spend money elsewhere such as on ridiculously high private school fees. i know a few people who shop there who have good jobs with good pay but they have huge mortgages which mean they have to budget elsewhere, or high private school fees, so they cut back elsewhere
Originally Posted by ste1969:
“The Engineer isn't going to like this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-new-jobs.html”
“The Engineer isn't going to like this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-new-jobs.html”
Will Self will be sneering all the way to the artisan bakers at this news.
Originally Posted by unique:
“not liking what a store offers does not make someone a snob. i have no interest in the meats and cheeses or baked goods. as i pointed out before, the things i'm not interested in may be those what win awards, but that store does not offer the things i am interested in. that's why you have different stores competing in different ways by appealing to different tastes and customers”
“not liking what a store offers does not make someone a snob. i have no interest in the meats and cheeses or baked goods. as i pointed out before, the things i'm not interested in may be those what win awards, but that store does not offer the things i am interested in. that's why you have different stores competing in different ways by appealing to different tastes and customers”
You can't say it's low quality just be a fleeting glance at the freezers. And you do come across as being a bit of a snob I'm afraid.
Originally Posted by unique:
“you are wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever. you need to accept that simple fact. the whole brexit planning is a complete and utter shambles. we've not even confirmed our intentions formally of wanting to leave the EU
there's absolutely nothing you can say to change that fact”
“you are wrong. there is no guarantee whatsoever. you need to accept that simple fact. the whole brexit planning is a complete and utter shambles. we've not even confirmed our intentions formally of wanting to leave the EU
there's absolutely nothing you can say to change that fact”
It's a shambles because a lot of the people having to implement it didn't really want it.
17 million other people did.
Whenever any supermarket announces big job increases i don't get too excited because to some degree isn't it a zero sum game? If Lidl's have grown then its because Morrisons (or someone else has shrunk) so those jobs haven't just magically appeared out of nowhere.
Internal UK supermarket industry is either finite or growing (due to population growth), so surely the EU Ref result would have made no short term difference whatever the result. But presumably whoever won was always going to claim this Lidl expansion as theirs
Internal UK supermarket industry is either finite or growing (due to population growth), so surely the EU Ref result would have made no short term difference whatever the result. But presumably whoever won was always going to claim this Lidl expansion as theirs
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