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Lidl is showing great faith in Britain after Brexit. It knows that, in the years AFTER Brexit finally occurs, the ensuing economic disaster will have people shopping there in droves. After all, where else will people be able to afford to shop? Lidl and the pound shop will seem like an extravagance!
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Whenever any supermarket announces big job increases i don't get too excited because to some degree isn't it a zero sum game? If Lidl's have grown then its because Morrisons (or someone else has shrunk) so those jobs haven't just magically appeared out of nowhere.
Internal UK supermarket industry is either finite or growing (due to population growth), so surely the EU Ref result would have made no short term difference whatever the result. But presumably whoever won was always going to claim this Lidl expansion as theirs |
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I hope your post is a joke. Somehow, I think it isn't.
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What's to laugh at? A bunch of Tory Old-Etonians indulged in Public School japes and gullible Little-Englanders/Kippers fell for it.
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Utter nonsense. And it wasn't just England that voted to leave. You do know that Wales voted to leave on an even larger proportion of their population than England? Are they little Welsh people? People that voted to leave want to trade globally. Unlike the Little Europeans who want us to focus on the world's only declining trading block the EU.
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I do know that. That's why I referred to the Kippers. It's not complicated. Best of luck with the old trading globally.
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UK exports soared to a record monthly high in October driven by strong goods exports to non-EU countries.
The vagueness of the word "driven" as opposed to to the percentage value of the exports to non-EU countries has piqued my interest. Here's a little-known (to the gullible and deluded) fact: In October 2016, Britain was, and still is, enjoying all the perks and benefits of being in the EU. Can you understand that? The number of people who confuse the initial months after the vote with what life will be like AFTER BRITAIN LEAVES the EU is perplexing. Then again, if they were fooled by posh boys in the Bullingdon Club having a laugh, I shouldn't be so surprised. |
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Any chance of a link?
The vagueness of the word "driven" as opposed to to the percentage value of the exports to non-EU countries has piqued my interest. https://business-reporter.co.uk/2016...-high-exports/ The figures https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/natio...ktrade/oct2016 Quote:
Here's a little-known (to the gullible and deluded) fact:
In October 2016, Britain was, and still is, enjoying all the perks and benefits of being in the EU. Can you understand that? The number of people who confuse the initial months after the vote with what life will be like AFTER BRITAIN LEAVES the EU is perplexing. Then again, if they were fooled by posh boys in the Bullingdon Club having a laugh, I shouldn't be so surprised. The referendum result triggered the £ to fall in value which would be expected to long-term help increase UK exports. After Brexit the UK will be able to make its own trade deals which should also help. |
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I do know that. That's why I referred to the Kippers. It's not complicated. Best of luck with the old trading globally.
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Any chance of a link?
The vagueness of the word "driven" as opposed to to the percentage value of the exports to non-EU countries has piqued my interest. Here's a little-known (to the gullible and deluded) fact: In October 2016, Britain was, and still is, enjoying all the perks and benefits of being in the EU. Can you understand that? The number of people who confuse the initial months after the vote with what life will be like AFTER BRITAIN LEAVES the EU is perplexing. Then again, if they were fooled by posh boys in the Bullingdon Club having a laugh, I shouldn't be so surprised. |
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So where are your complaints about the UK car industry all being foreign owned now? as are our utility and some transport companies? Or is that ok because it doesn't affect you personally and has been happening long before Brexit was thought of? Plus all the multi-nationals using EU laws to register or offshore their profits (some to other EU countries like Luxembourg) using shell companies in the Netherlands to transfer money to the IOM etc.
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What is the 'old trading globally?' Anyone would think we weren't one of the biggest exporting nations in the world?
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You can't say it's low quality just be a fleeting glance at the freezers. And you do come across as being a bit of a snob I'm afraid.
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Again like kidspud, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening. You have a pre conceived bias based on what Lidl's food was like 10 years ago. It was bad back then. It's now on the whole very good or excellent even. It wouldn't be winning awards if it wasn't. Yes, the supermarkets themselves are a bit more downmarket looking than Tesco or Sainsbury's but the food isn't.
you are jumping to conclusions and ending up wrong. if anyone is effectively sticking their fingers in their ears and not listening it's you. i have no bias, the store doesn't provide the products that interest me, yet from time to time i check it out to see if it's changed if you bothered to even read what i posted you would see i had said i pop in about a couple of times a year. i was last in this month and apart from a new bakery section that i have no interest in, it doesn't look notably different in layout or products |
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Whenever any supermarket announces big job increases i don't get too excited because to some degree isn't it a zero sum game? If Lidl's have grown then its because Morrisons (or someone else has shrunk) so those jobs haven't just magically appeared out of nowhere.
Internal UK supermarket industry is either finite or growing (due to population growth), so surely the EU Ref result would have made no short term difference whatever the result. But presumably whoever won was always going to claim this Lidl expansion as theirs some people just don't seem to understand it though |
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There is a guarantee.
there absolutely is no guarantee whatsoever Quote:
We had a vote. You lost. Quote:
We're going. Quote:
The government wouldn't dare keep us in. Quote:
There would be riots if they tried that. Quote:
Just stop remoaning and grow up. |
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Would you like to hear Mrs May say it again, 'we are leaving the EU'
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/foodanddrin...les/vi-AAlBDAP if i saw "we are not leaving the EU" would you take that as gospel? there is no guarantee. that's a simple and basic fact |
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How pompous. At least I can tell you type out of your arse now.
And still no explanation for what your expertise in this area is. Tinned WUM from the BOGOF section, I think. |
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Lidl is showing great faith in Britain after Brexit. It knows that, in the years AFTER Brexit finally occurs, the ensuing economic disaster will have people shopping there in droves. After all, where else will people be able to afford to shop? Lidl and the pound shop will seem like an extravagance!
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Utter nonsense. And it wasn't just England that voted to leave. You do know that Wales voted to leave on an even larger proportion of their population than England? Are they little Welsh people? People that voted to leave want to trade globally. Unlike the Little Europeans who want us to focus on the world's only declining trading block the EU.
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My point is you obviously don't know what the word usually means. As you think food is usually VAT free contradicts almost all food is VAT free.
the point is that whils many items in a supermarket are VAT free, as the link and quote i posted demonstrates, there are many items in stores that are not VAT free, and literally millions of pounds of sales from supermarkets is for VATable goods Quote:
Fruit &Veg Aldi, Lidl NFU Fruit & Veg pledge signatories. Tesco not a signatory of the NFU pledge, when in season carrots, celeriac, onions, parsnips, swede, turnips UK Eggs, Chicken, Milk, Cream, Butter Aldi, Lidl, Tesco 100% UK Cheese Aldi 100% UK Lidl ? & UK Tesco Ireland & UK Yoghurt Aldi 67% UK 33% France Lidl ? Tesco Germany & UK Pork Aldi 100% UK Lidl 96% UK Tesco 63% UK Sausage Aldi, Lidl 100% UK Tesco 77% UK Bacon Lidl 53% UK, Aldi 44% UK Tesco 36% UK Ham Tesco 62% UK Aldi 47% UK Lidl 36% UK Beef Aldi, Lidl 100% UK Tesco Ireland & UK Lamb Aldi 100% UK, Lidl, Tesco UK & New Zealand, Source NFU Quote:
If you think the UK is not going to leave the EU and that it is not going to enable changes in UK tax law the UK government has repeatedly attempted, then you are living in denial. Quote:
I already provide figures in a earlier post. And told you what they pay their workers is available online. Since you are unable to look at an earlier post in this thread and unable to manage using Google here are some figures. Hourly pay of store assistants. Lidl £8.45 Tesco £7.39 (£7.24 new employee) the simple fact of the matter is you won't be able to prove such a nonsense claim Quote:
No I don't disagree that other supermarkets like Tesco losing customers to Lidl are likely to cut back on staff. But, its not bad for the UK as Lidl pays its workers more, sources more of its food from UK farms and sells food cheaper than Tesco. Quote:
Shopping comparison sites will show you Lidl is cheaper than Tesco, for example mysupermarket.co.uk Lidl and Tesco both give their pay rates so you can see Lidl pays their workers higher wages. Seriously are you incapable of using Google? apart from the low/starting rates, you have no idea how much the rest of the staff get paid do you? Quote:
retail-week.com Quote:
More £s worth of sales per member of staff in retail equates to more productivity per member of staff. the number of things you can't prove is adding up Quote:
You think its a matter of opinion that getting paid more is good for workers! I guess you ask your employer to pay you less. Quote:
You think its not necessarily true that lower prices are good for consumers! I guess when you go shopping you ask the checkout to charge you more. so the customers may save a few pennies or pounds, but it can be offset by loss of income to HMRC and more benefits paid out, higher inflation, etc etc etc. or the loss of their own jobs Quote:
That higher pay reduces eligibility to in work benefits is a fact. That higher pay can increase the amount of income tax and national insurance paid is also a fact. I guess you have never claimed means tested benefits and have never worked. Quote:
Obviously Lidl disagree as they are expanding. Quote:
How is Lidl expanding bad news? shareholders and owners of businesses that will lose trade due to lidl opening near them will probably consider it bad news too. and before you say, not everyone who loses a job will be able to go get another one in lidl, nor want to |
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i had more than a fleeting glance. go look yourself. cheap 99p and £2 frozen pizzas aren't going to be anything other than low quality
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this is pretty much it. if lidl expands then business is more likely to be taken from other competing stores, and as lidl generally supplies cheaper goods then there are a number of effects that result, as i explained before
some people just don't seem to understand it though |
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I voted remain primarily because of the economic arguments But off the top of my head I can remember Apple, Google, Nissan ,GlaxoSmithKline, Hinckley C power station, City Airport London, Heathrow and now Lidl supermarkets have all announced massive investment and substantial financial commitment to the UK.
We were told that just voting to leave the EU - never mind Brexit itself- investment would dry up because of the "uncertainty" a leave vote would create. I was taken in by project fear, I wouldn't be again. |
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that's one persons quote
if i saw "we are not leaving the EU" would you take that as gospel? there is no guarantee. that's a simple and basic fact We are and will be leaving the EU, you are wrong |
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i had more than a fleeting glance. go look yourself. cheap 99p and £2 frozen pizzas aren't going to be anything other than low quality
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