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Which bit of "We are leaving the EU" do you find difficult to understand? what is Mrs May's alternative, stay in the EU, don't think so...
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Indeed. Let's not worry about all of the high skill high pay jobs which are being lost because they can all become shelf-stackers in a discount supermarket.
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No its English. The word "usually" means commonly, customarily, ordinarily, as a rule. My saying almost all food is VAT free is not a contradicted by you quoting something that states food is usually VAT free.
even if almost all food is VAT free, supermarkets sell millions of pounds of goods per year that are VATable, such as alcohol and non food items Quote:
My original point was that almost all food is VAT free, and that money saved from buying cheaper food is likely to spent on things that have VAT. Quote:
Its not like consumers particularly consumers with low incomes who are the stereotypical Lidl shoppers are likely to put the money into a savings account. Quote:
I take it you are incapable of understanding that if shop A gets 90% of its food from UK farming and shop B gets 50% of its food from UK farming. Then shop A sources more of its food from UK farming than shop B which was the point I made. one stores 50% could be considerably more in value than another stores 90% take into consideration that tesco have over 3 times the store lidl has, then even if tesco sources a smaller percentage of goods from the UK than lidl, the overall result can still be that tesco sources MORE goods from the UK do you understand that now? it's incredible simple the reason you post so much nonsense is because you don't fully think about what you are posting before you post it Quote:
And if shop B loses customers to shop A its going to increase the amount of food bought from UK farming, which was the other point. Quote:
The point of the NFU providing the information I used is to enable consumers to choose where they want to shop based on which supermarkets source most from the UK. Quote:
You appear to not understand the meaning of "If you think" "you are living in denial" Quote:
When talking about supermarket workers pay using store assistant pay is perfectly sensible as most supermarket workers are store assistance. They are the most numerous the typical supermarket worker. Quote:
You have failed to understand the following words from my previous posts. I have placed in Bold below. Quote:
"Lidl source their products primarily from UK farming so more money to UK farming." "More than the likes of Tesco, Sainsburys, etc. The cheaper supermarkets Lidl and Aldi source more of their produce from UK farming than the more expensive supermarkets." Quote:
"Lidl pays its workers more, sources more of its food from UK farms and sells food cheaper than Tesco." Quote:
As far as tax to HMRC the comparison was between a lower paid worker and a higher paid worker. Tesco by the way while no doubt paying more tax due to being far larger do engage in lots of tax avoidance measures through offshore trusts and offshore companies. Quote:
Answered above. Store assistances are the most numerous supermarket employees. Also for other members of staff I would assume there are pay differentials so a higher wage for store assistant is likely to mean higher pay for people directly above them. Quote:
You think retail-week.com are lying? Quote:
What I posted was a truism. What do you think defines retail staff productive if not £ of sales per retail worker? The purpose of retail is to sell stuff. Quote:
In what way are Tesco store assistance terms and conditions of employment better than LIdl store assistances? Quote:
As far as pay its not a little bit more its just over a £1 an hour more. The reason for the difference is LIdl is committed to paying the living wage. Quote:
And everyone starves to death because no one is selling any food.
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Your not looking at the bigger picture Quote:
you are being ridiculous. Quote:
1. People need to buy food its a necessity the idea that all the shops selling food will go bust is ridiculous. Quote:
2. Aldi make a profit they are not operating at a loss to undercut competitors. Quote:
The customers save more than a few pennies or pounds. this is just more generalising, so ultimately the next thing you are going to saw is likely to be more nonsense Quote:
That you think for some bizarre unknown reason that people shopping at Lidl rather than Tesco will: Cause HMRC to lose money despite almost all food being VAT free and despite Lidl paying its workers more money, and Lidl making a profit and paying tax. Quote:
Cause more benefits to be paid out despite Lidl paying its store assistances higher wages than Tesco, and expanding creating more jobs, and despite the UK having very low unemployment that is falling, and increasing numbers of job vacancies and increasing wages. Quote:
Cause higher inflation despite Lidl selling food cheaper than Tesco Quote:
Cause etc, etc, etc, loss of their own jobs despite most Lidl customers not working for rival supermarket chains and if they did the fact they get a discount at the rival supermarket chain at which they work so would probably shop there. Does not make me think I am wrong it makes me think you are deluded. Quote:
Lidl must think expanding is good or they would not be doing it. Unless for some bizarre unknown reason you think Lidl management are trying to harm the company. the expansion has risks, which means it may not end up being good for the business Quote:
If I worked in say Tesco as a store assistant and Lidl opened a store nearby I would apply for a store assistant or better job at Lidl as they pay more than Tesco. part of your problem is you don't consider the big picture and people who think and do things differently from you. that's what you are so frequently wrong Quote:
If I worked at Tesco and chose to stay at Tesco then lost my job I would hopefully get redundancy pay and would look for another job. With UK unemployment very low and falling in most areas of the UK getting another job should not be a huge problem. Quote:
Do you define what is good as what is good for say Tesco not what is good for the general public, consumers and as Lidl pays more good for workers. Quote:
Ideally capitalism means competition to supply goods to customers with the supplier providing the customers with best value for money winning. Quote:
Are you opposed to consumers benefiting from capitalism? Would you prefer monopolies and cartels and barriers to other business entering and competing? |
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Having read through this thread you seem to have no idea about food retail. You attack a good news post on investment in the UK to create 5000 jobs saying it will reduce taxes and create low wages and when challenged you change tactics and go on about quality and twist everything into something anti Brexit. Strange then that their pizza won a quality award.
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Utterly hilarious and contradictory. Two companies go into admin. They blame Brexit. Companies issue profit warnings. Oh it's Brexit. Economy in downturn which is isn't. Oh it's Brexit. This is the same old remain BS.
What other groundless denials are you going to come up with? The Apollo 11 landing was a hoax? The Earth is flat? Again you cannot have any credibility in this or any other forum if you do not accept that there has been negative Brexit consequences for companies trading in the UK whether that's in terms of financial or job losses. |
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Which bit of "We are leaving the EU" do you find difficult to understand? what is Mrs May's alternative, stay in the EU, don't think so...
surely even someone with a very limited knowledge of politics, even someone who doesn't understand politics will tell you how much politicians lie and say stuff that never actually happens just because a politician says something, does not mean it will happen all you have to do is google to find umpteen things tory politicians have said under the current reign which have not turned true. including things thereasa may the current PM (for how much longer?) has said http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...n-told-6211553 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ITTLEWOOD.html just type in the name of any well known politician into google and add the word "lies" for more examples regardless of what anyone says, there is absolutely no guarantee the UK will leave the EU, even if that is the current plan by the government |
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Not an answer. Still snobby.
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please explain why you believe this nonsense. Were you asleep during the referendum? Or are you deluded. Even the most hardcore remoaners don't talk such nonsense.
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Still biased. Still a snob.
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Care to explain your wacky unjustifiable view?
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Ok, thanks Cough.
it's clear you lack facts to back up your point of view on the matter so have to result in making pointless answers instead |
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^ Prime example of explicit Leave denial. You do not know better than the company chief executives and chairmen and chairwomen who are having to deal with the Brexit fallout and who are having to now lay off workers.
What other groundless denials are you going to come up with? The Apollo 11 landing was a hoax? The Earth is flat? Again you cannot have any credibility in this or any other forum if you do not accept that there has been negative Brexit consequences for companies trading in the UK whether that's in terms of financial or job losses. |
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it's an answer. that's your opinion, not a fact. you appear to lack the ability to answer with facts. just look at your next few posts quoted below
it's not nonsense at all. there is no guarantee at all, as if there was you could prove it. but you can't as you are wrong no facts from you, just a personal insult instead again no facts, just insults and another unnecesary post, with no facts it's clear you lack facts to back up your point of view on the matter so have to result in making pointless answers instead |
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Lidl to create 5000 jobs despite Brexit
This is the same old Leave BS - a very highly selective quote while completely, and conveniently, ignoring the bigger picture of the wider economic damage being done by Brexit. Ford confirmed extra Brexit costs of $200 million (estimated $600 million for 2017) and the list of Brexit casualties goes on.Seagate's now pulling out of the UK, Rivington Biscuits has gone into administration, Hewden machinery rental went into administration, Mitie's issued a profits warning, British Land made losses, Memo to all Brexit propagandists - you all have zero credibility because you refuse to accept or acknowledge the negative economic consequences of the way that you have voted even when the firms concerned explicitly cited Brexit as the direct cause of financial losses, job losses, going into administration and so forth. Quote:
Indeed. Let's not worry about all of the high skill high pay jobs which are being lost because they can all become shelf-stackers in a discount supermarket.
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Pity you didn't notice that three of those companies have a direct link to a construction industry which has been in the doldrums since well before the referendum. Or that Rivingtons have been on the brink of disaster for years and that Ford have been losing market for a considerable time. Seagate has something of a history of operation movement when it suits them.
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Wasn't Ford the company that got paid money by the EU to transfer some EU operations to that non European country of Turkey?
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Wasn't Ford the company that got paid money by the EU to transfer some EU operations to that non European country of Turkey?
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Lidl to create 5000 jobs despite Brexit
This is the same old Leave BS - a very highly selective quote while completely, and conveniently, ignoring the bigger picture of the wider economic damage being done by Brexit. Seagate's now pulling out of the UK, Rivington Biscuits has gone into administration, Hewden machinery rental went into administration, Mitie's issued a profits warning, British Land made losses, Ford confirmed extra Brexit costs of $200 million (estimated $600 million for 2017) and the list of Brexit casualties goes on. Memo to all Brexit propagandists - you all have zero credibility because you refuse to accept or acknowledge the negative economic consequences of the way that you have voted even when the firms concerned explicitly cited Brexit as the direct cause of financial losses, job losses, going into administration and so forth. Rivington Biscuits and Hewden machine rental both cited brexit as a reason. However both were making substantial losses long before the referendum. Mitie listed brexit amongst a very long list of other non brexit reasons why it had done surprisingly badly. British Land has made a small percentage loss on the asset value of its property portfolio but underlying profits are up, since the referendum its been doing better than last year making more and better deals letting property with 98% of its portfolio let. And its increased its dividend. Ford is continuing its investment in the UK despite what it said before the referendum it now has no plans to leave. The fall in value of the £ has hit Ford's profits and Ford plans to increase prices in the UK but expect that to impact UK sales. Ford however has had bigger problems this year a massive car recall in the USA. |
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Ford didn't get paid any money by the EU. Another nonsense comment.
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Though we are yet to find out what the "deal" was between the UK government and Nissain.
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Though we are yet to find out what the "deal" was between the UK government and Nissain.
I couldn't see Kidspud's denial of the truth as he's on my ignore list, but as you quoted him, here is a link that proves they where given money. |
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...m-loan-1415960
I couldn't see Kidspud's denial of the truth as he's on my ignore list, but as you quoted him, here is a link that proves they where given money. |
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This guy is a WUM.
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Remember your capital letters and full stops for future posts please. As I said, even the most hardcore remoaners accept we're going. For some strange reason, you can't. I am now sticking your deluded self on ignore. Bye.
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Ford didn't get paid any money by the EU. Another nonsense comment.
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I already linked to that on the last few pages! ![]() Edit actually at 6:52pm. The remoaners on here still can't accept it.
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So I've now read the article twice. How much did ford get paid?
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So I've now read the article twice. How much did ford get paid?
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The government should not be giving money to companies who threaten to take jobs from the UK, that is tantamount to blackmail. If companies refuse to employ people in the UK, they should be banned from trading here. We need to start fighting back, Britain has been pushed around one time too many.
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