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60 Days In Jail Series 1 on C4
Anybody caught this reality show, series 1 on C4 currently. Quote:
US documentary series in which seven volunteers, who have committed no crime, are sent into the Clark County Jail in Indiana as undercover inmates to root out crime and corruption inside the facility
It's bizarre, compelling and mostly jaw-droppingly unethical but purports to be well-intentioned. A notorious jail that had a reputation for corrupt prison officers, drug use and violence intends to clean-up through a reality TV production that drops in undercover volunteers to assimilate and then expose failings incl:- an ex Marine, police officers, a teacher, Mohammed Ali's daughter....... catch up episodes 2- 6 here. ( you don't really need to see Ep 1 as it's just an intro.) http://www.channel4.com/programmes/6...mand/65334-002 there's also a set of episode reviews here http://previously.tv/shows/60-days-in/s01/ |
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Anybody caught this reality show, series 1 on C4 currently.
It's bizarre, compelling and mostly jaw-droppingly unethical but purports to be well-intentioned. A notorious jail that had a reputation for corrupt prison officers, drug use and violence intends to clean-up through a reality TV production that drops in undercover volunteers to assimilate and then expose failings incl: - an ex Marine, police officers, a teacher, Mohammed Ali's daughter....... catch up episodes 2- 6 here. ( you don't really need to see Ep 1 as it's just an intro.) http://www.channel4.com/programmes/6...mand/65334-002 there's also a set of episode reviews here http://previously.tv/shows/60-days-in/s01/ Sums up exactly my feelings but I'd add apparently dangerous too because watching some of those prisoners building up to an attack, it happens so fast the guards aren't able to prevent it. I say ''apparently'' because I don't understand how the authorities could allow volunteers to be placed in that situation so maybe you include that in unethical. I've been watching from the start and a couple of times I've tried to explain it over the phone to a friend but I found it difficult. Last night she came over so while I cooked I showed her the last episode. As the series has gone on I'd already described to her the different volunteers. At the end she said ''Are they actors? I don't believe that anyone would willingly put themselves into that situation''. What do you think? The teacher was a weirdo before he even went in. The housewife who looked like she wouldn't say boo to a goose is thriving. The tough lesbian policewoman is losing it fast. The fat bullied boy brings it with him and was a target from the start. The ex-marine is the hero I want on my side. Look how addicted I am! I'll go and read your review links now. ![]() Edit. I can't read that American style chat. Just looking at it suggests they all know this is some sort of fake. I owe an apology to my friend. I was sitting here telling her it was a socialogical experiment. More fool me. |
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Watched episode 6 of the first series, and was hoping to watch episode 7 next week, but I can't find it anywhere.
I did watch on demand the 2nd series though, and thoroughly recommend it. Fascinating insight into the prison system in the US. |
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Watched episode 6 of the first series, and was hoping to watch episode 7 next week, but I can't find it anywhere.
I did watch on demand the 2nd series though, and thoroughly recommend it. Fascinating insight into the prison system in the US. Episode 7 will be shown next week in the order it's being shown to us. Why search for it if you've aready watched Series 2? |
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Excuse me I don't understand.
Episode 7 will be shown next week in the order it's being shown to us. Stop inhaling and get some sleep. Very weird indeed to tell me to stop inhaling, doesn't make any sense whatsoever. |
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Excuse me I don't understand.
Episode 7 will be shown next week in the order it's being shown to us. Why search for it if you've aready watched Series 2? I watched series 2 because there were different people taking part in the experiment. Jeez! |
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Hello flashfiction. I'm so glad you've posted because I've been dying to chat about it.
Sums up exactly my feelings but I'd add apparently dangerous too because watching some of those prisoners building up to an attack, it happens so fast the guards aren't able to prevent it. I say ''apparently'' because I don't understand how the authorities could allow volunteers to be placed in that situation so maybe you include that in unethical. I've been watching from the start and a couple of times I've tried to explain it over the phone to a friend but I found it difficult. Last night she came over so while I cooked I showed her the last episode. As the series has gone on I'd already described to her the different volunteers. At the end she said ''Are they actors? I don't believe that anyone would willingly put themselves into that situation''. What do you think? The teacher was a weirdo before he even went in. The housewife who looked like she wouldn't say boo to a goose is thriving. The tough lesbian policewoman is losing it fast. The fat bullied boy brings it with him and was a target from the start. The ex-marine is the hero I want on my side. Look how addicted I am! I'll go and read your review links now. ![]() Edit. I can't read that American style chat. Just looking at it suggests they all know this is some sort of fake. I owe an apology to my friend. I was sitting here telling her it was a socialogical experiment. More fool me. An interesting show, though. Not always easy to watch and it's a tad slow at times. |
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I've watched the whole series and enjoyed it. it I do wander how edited it is. For example when Barbara comes into jail she sits down with her head in her hands and Tami sits at another table with a pen and a pad of paper. This scene is then shown later in the series when something else happens as if it was happening then too. It's definitely the same scene.
Robert the teacher wound me up no end and is oether mentally ill or a great actor. I won't spoil it it after their stay they all have to sit down with the Sheriff and talk about their experiences and Roberts is priceless. |
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Series 2 has just finished on the CI channel. Great series. Problem is it has a limited shelf life because if pensioners catch on it will put both partisipants and genuine new inmates in danger.
Gripping viewing. |
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Hello flashfiction. I'm so glad you've posted because I've been dying to chat about it.
Sums up exactly my feelings but I'd add apparently dangerous too because watching some of those prisoners building up to an attack, it happens so fast the guards aren't able to prevent it. I say ''apparently'' because I don't understand how the authorities could allow volunteers to be placed in that situation so maybe you include that in unethical. I've been watching from the start and a couple of times I've tried to explain it over the phone to a friend but I found it difficult. Last night she came over so while I cooked I showed her the last episode. As the series has gone on I'd already described to her the different volunteers. At the end she said ''Are they actors? I don't believe that anyone would willingly put themselves into that situation''. What do you think? The teacher was a weirdo before he even went in. The housewife who looked like she wouldn't say boo to a goose is thriving. The tough lesbian policewoman is losing it fast. The fat bullied boy brings it with him and was a target from the start. The ex-marine is the hero I want on my side. Look how addicted I am! I'll go and read your review links now. ![]() Edit. I can't read that American style chat. Just looking at it suggests they all know this is some sort of fake. I owe an apology to my friend. I was sitting here telling her it was a socialogical experiment. More fool me. Like a scary version of old school BB* , watching people trapped, trying to make alliances, melt downs, self-delusions. OTOH the men's wing was just terrifying. ( * except not as well made.) That link to reviews I linked to in post 1- the reviewers are pretty caustic and scathing on allowing "The fat bullied boy" aka Jeff to take part. Apparently Jeff's a lover of reality TV but does actually want to be a prison officer. Agree that the production company MUST have known he was going to do very badly, plus had history of being bullied. ( S'pose it's same as UK reality TV- the companies claim vulnerable contestants are screened but in reality they know some may implode on screen.) No I really don't think they are actors. "The teacher was a weirdo before he even went in." Yes, he is barking and just got worse. Reckon the more scared he got the more flamboyant he became. Imagine him teaching your kids ![]() "The tough lesbian policewoman is losing it fast." There was a hint during her conversation with her missus that she has had MHealth issues in the distant past. She entered with the right intentions but is weaker than she thought. So I think contestants are all genuine but misguided. Bravado on part of some of them , assuming they could hack it. As for US jails - christ almighty. Those people are warehoused to keep costs low. Seems that the pod boss, violence & fear run the prison, unit by unit. ( Bear in mind that the inmates haven't had their trial yet, some had been waiting 5 years. Scratching my head. ) Uk jails - yes mentally ill do end up in "general population" too but would hope we do a better job of ensuring meds are actually swallowed. Hearing two men get battered was horrifying - one was Jeff and another was real inmate Ricky who had been trading his medication . That sort of event would mean no series 2 commissioning over here. Surely!? |
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Apparently Tami has already done another reality TV program in America, so it seems the people involved aren't "normal" members of the public.
I agree about the editing , where things are made to look more dramatic than they are by using different scenes, unfortunately this seems standard in US reality , everything just makes you question whether its real or not. Having said that i was hooked by it, ive seen both series 1 and 2, but the trouble now is i can't see how they can do a third series which is a shame. I think i preferred series 2 tbh, i was interested with Sheri and Ashleigh (which is The marine guy from the first series wife) , i changed my opinion of the marine in this series after the first one where i thought he was a top guy, now i'm not so sure tbh. I wonder if its made things difficult for other prisons in America , Inmates might suspect others of being a plant for a TV show even when they arent. |
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Series 2 has just finished on the CI channel. Great series. Problem is it has a limited shelf life because if pensioners catch on it will put both partisipants and genuine new inmates in danger.
Gripping viewing. I had a look at the overview but I won't put up any spoilers. However the jail did say they sacked a few guards for incompetence/corruption after show was made. That the crew left them the CCTV equipment and the $60k fee for series 1 was used to pay for body scanners to help prevent people smuggling drugs.( Apparently drugs inside are cheaper than on the street. ) And MH services for the newly released - can imagine they might need it after coming out of there. ( So you go thru the doors, purportedly as a violent criminal and leave as a crazy, violent criminal. It's a generalisation but even still..) Also I read that they had to film series 2 before series 1 aired because it would've been impossible to fake the cover story otherwise ( of a docu crew filming a jail for a general interest programme.) I suppose so few of these jails run work programmes cause it's too expensive in staffing? |
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Apparently Tami has already done another reality TV program in America, so it seems the people involved aren't "normal" members of the public.
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Tami reports that she's retired ( since S1 aired) after 21 years on the force because she can no longer bring herself to put people in jail knowing what it's like in there.
Link is here but "spoilers" there. http://previously.tv/60-days-in/ever...ys-in-reunion/ but elsewhere it says she exaggerated, she was only a proper cop for about half of that - worked as a security for much of it. I'm only up to ep 6 but she's already embarrassing herself so I guess that's had an impact on getting her next job in law enforcement after the programme finished. Maybe it's back to hunting shoplifters for her. You'd have to have a very high opinion of yourself to think you could hack this but some people think they're hard enough and Tammi assumed she would get the respect and control she was used to having. Reminds me of BB1 - where the contestants don't have a clue of the shit storm they are getting into in for as it's a new scenario. Seeing the 19 yr old black kid Isaiah go in was almost hide behind the sofa stuff - seemed he was paralysed with fear. AFAIK it's very rare for US authorities to let cameras inside their jails. Agree - not sure a series 3 would ever be viable, anywhere. ETA . Just googled her - She did a shoplifting programme in 2012 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5362357/ Apparently now unemployed? She says: Quote:
"She's volunteering at a local org that helps transition people into civilian life after jail/prison,"
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I'm surprised this prison hasnt got them all working , ive seen other prisons in America where they have a call center and the prisoners work in there doing cold calling :O , ive seen others where the prisoners make wheelchairs , i got the sense that someone somewhere is making a fortune out of US prisons , yet the people in this one seem to be locked up and forgotten about,
i think if i was in a US prison i would rather be in a super max than the dump on this program
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I'm surprised this prison hasnt got them all working , ive seen other prisons in America where they have a call center and the prisoners work in there doing cold calling :O , ive seen others where the prisoners make wheelchairs , i got the sense that someone somewhere is making a fortune out of US prisons , yet the people in this one seem to be locked up and forgotten about,
i think if i was in a US prison i would rather be in a super max than the dump on this program ![]() womens wing looked survivable if you can let it wash over you but for blokes it looks like hell on earth. Would rather be in a chain gang, least you'd be outside & too knackered to get into too much trouble. If Xmas telly gets too bad, you'd do worse than watch "The Farm" about a Louisiana work prison. Much better than it sounds, pretty moving. (Plus the makers returned 30+ yrs later to do a follow up on the men that managed to get out and do well. Powerful stuff with some happy endings. ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odx9NEHc17M |
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It's very entertaining but it's so fake, honestly.
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Season 2 just finished in CI. I think that's it for the show, because everyone in the jail knows about the show now (they filmed S2 before S1 aired). They're developing a British spinoff though.
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This is one series I was absolutely addicted to. Stumbled upon episode 1 in the documentary channels around April/May this year and was hooked, so naturally I scoured the internet and realised it was already released in US so I watched it all. I have to say though (and I'm probably in a minority) but I loved Tami. She went in absolute balls to the wall and I loved that attitude
I was worried about the legitimacy of it all, especially knowing that literally all of the volunteers have reality tv experience. Apparently Isaiah is the only one with 0 experience of being on tv. I was actually so in love with this series that my biggest fear was it being scripted or fake, especially knowing they had a second season lined up. However, if you go on Youtube you will find video posts by one of the actual female inmates, Jamie. She is the one we saw 'Yaz' helping her with Maths. She posted about the whole experience and the volunteers. Apparently the females were told that there was a chance to be part of a program on "first timers" and you had to give your consent to be possibly featured on tv if you wanted to take part, therefore the female inmates who agreed were put into F Pod where Tami, Barbra and Yaz would later join. I haven't seen season 2 yet because ive got my family into watching season 1, so im enjoying it all over again. Hope it's just as good |
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season 2 is great i have watched both and really enjoyed them
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I'm really enjoying it.
- Ali's daughter thinks way too much of herself to think that anyone would even recognise her let alone put 2 and 2 together to think she's his daughter. - Tami really does not get the unspoken rules of prison which is weird considering her occupation. - Robert is a flat out psychopath, I am sure of it. |
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I watched series 1 and am halfway through series 2. We all know that prisoners get drugs in one way or another but I was shocked how much the inmates are left to their own devices and the way they are up all night messing around and making a noise. I thought things were much more regimented than that. They have nothing to do and just fight because there is no structure. What about classes and work in there. Or studying. As for the officers they seem worse than useless. I thought the idea was for the fake inmates to report back on what they saw going on but it seems the powers that be have done nothing after the first series to improve things so what's the point.
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I liked it at first but seems very fake. I cottoned on with the 'beating' that 'inmate' so for supposedly helping out the teacher guy.
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It's very entertaining but it's so fake, honestly.
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