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Black flags in London. Second pro caliphate demonstration this week.
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Mark_Jones9
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“Looking at Breitbart link and Huffingtonpost they were two distinct marches and the flags were totally different and the messages on the signs were not remembrance signs nor were they anti Assad signs.”

The first for a Caliphate march that Breitbart reports occurred at the same time and place as the Muslim festival of Ashura procession against ISIS and terrorism.
The second for a Caliphate march occurred at the same time and place as the Muslims for Aleppo march highlighting the plight of the civilians and anti Assad.
Maybe Breitbart is reporting from a alternate reality.
James2001
17-12-2016
So the real story is totally different to what Breitbart are saying? What a shock.
Mesostim
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by James2001:
“So the real story is totally different to what Breitbart are saying? What a shock.”

It's just astounding anyone ever takes Breitbart seriously.
James2001
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“It's just astounding anyone ever takes Breitbart seriously.”

Well, they've as good as got a place in Trump's government now...
Blairdennon
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Jones9:
“The first for a Caliphate march that Breitbart reports occurred at the same time and place as the Muslim festival of Ashura procession against ISIS and terrorism.
The second for a Caliphate march occurred at the same time and place as the Muslims for Aleppo march highlighting the plight of the civilians and anti Assad.
Maybe Breitbart is reporting from a alternate reality.”

Well looking at the videos they are different, the flags are different, the placards are different and they do not say praise to be to Mr X they say something about betraying the rulers of Islam and a Kaliphar, or similar. If Breitbart were reporting one as the other then I would see the problem but they certainly do not appear to be. It is possible that one is an offshoot of the other but who knows. What is clear from the video is they are not the same.
rathcoole_kai
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dingbat:
“IT gets worse!

Not only are Muslims peacefully marching, they're also donating tons of food to the homeless for Christmas!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3422611.html

Disgraceful. Don't they know that they are supposed to pander to petty prejudices?”

Well done you those folks.
Mesostim
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by James2001:
“Well, they've as good as got a place in Trump's government now...”

Facist media for a facist President... perfect union.
alfamale
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
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If you can't see the difference between a Neo Nazi party and Hizb ut-Tahrir you don't belong on a politics forum.”

Not to mention quoting fake news site Breitbart as fact.
mal2pool
17-12-2016
the peaceful muslims will be fighting the extreme ones here before long...london isnt london anymore
johnny_boi_UK
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by alfamale:
“Not to mention quoting fake news site Breitbart as fact.”

Why can't both be correct?
soma_
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...for-caliphate/

The first had over a 1000 the second around 500. Crowds were again segregated men to the front and woman to the back. No doubt the young men had hangovers this morning.

It comes this week after a small neo nazi party was banned so my query is why is political Islam not facing a similar fate. Why is religion allowed to shield their disgusting views yet another similar group is rightly banned?”

breitbart the home of the fascistic white supremacists truth?
andykn
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“Why can't both be correct? ”

Well, do you think people campaigning for a united Ireland be banned?
James2001
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by soma_:
“breitbart the home of the fascistic white supremacists truth?”

I'm sure Donald Trump will be using them instead of security briefings.
johnny_boi_UK
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
“Well, do you think people campaigning for a united Ireland be banned?”

would a united ireland drive over women with road rollers and throw gays from roof tops?
andykn
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“would a united ireland drive over women with road rollers and throw gays from roof tops?”

If you were using, say the LRA as an example of a Christian state in the same way you're using ISIS as an example of a Muslim state, then yes.
johnny_boi_UK
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
“If you were using, say the LRA as an example of a Christian state in the same way you're using ISIS as an example of a Muslim state, then yes.”

No I'm using any western civilised country as an example so no they wouldn't do any of the things Isis is doing.
Alrightmate
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Cryolemon:
“If you look at the list of banned groups, 90% of them are Islamic. The rest are Irish plus this one far right group.”

I suppose that does introduce some context.
Setantii
18-12-2016
Well I trawled the net for news of this demo other then Breitbart - the only one I could find was in the Express and that quoted Breitbart as it's source.

So, either there is a total media blackout about the demonstration for some reason, or Breitbart have used footage of an old demonstration and maliciously passed it off as a demo today to stir anti-Muslim sentiment.

The only way to find out the truth is to get in touch with the police and ask if there was a demo there today.

EDIT - Also the Breitbart Youtube video had this warning underneath - This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing.
andykn
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“No I'm using any western civilised country as an example so no they wouldn't do any of the things Isis is doing.”

Nor would the peaceful Caliphate Hizb ut-Tahrir wish for.
johnny_boi_UK
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
“Nor would the peaceful Caliphate Hizb ut-Tahrir wish for.”

I really do miss that rolls eye emote
James2001
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Setantii:
“So, either there is a total media blackout about the demonstration for some reason, or Breitbart have used footage of an old demonstration and maliciously passed it off as a demo today to stir anti-Muslim sentiment.”

I wonder which one I'd put money on...
Blairdennon
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by andykn:
“Nor would the peaceful Caliphate Hizb ut-Tahrir wish for.”

I suppose how they propose to achieve it and maintain it is of little consequence?
Mark_Jones9
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Blairdennon:
“I suppose how they propose to achieve it and maintain it is of little consequence?”

Peacefully. They do not have any links to violent acts or terrorism according to the UK government. So are a legal peaceful religious political movement. With a message that is never going to accepted by the majority of UK public, because most people in the UK do not want to live in a Islamic state.
Palafrugel
18-12-2016
Most the marches I have seen across the planet in solidarity with Aleppo rebels displayed Al Qaeda flags - especially those in Turkey.
SULLA
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“To give the security services time to make lots of films and follow them home to gain addresses.

They already had enough information on the neo nazis to ban them.”

You have given the game away
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