She's one of those then. How is He at planning? Not too much into micromanaging things? 
Theresa May said God's guidance was helping her plan Brexit. So someone FOId it
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That's comforting to know.
That the lady in charge of the UK is speaking to and getting help from her imaginary friend in the sky. I hope he doesn't tell her to kill all humans.
That the lady in charge of the UK is speaking to and getting help from her imaginary friend in the sky. I hope he doesn't tell her to kill all humans.
Originally Posted by nethwen:
“It isn't the same.
”
“It isn't the same.
”
All seems a bit obvious but then sometimes these things which are apparently really hard to understand have to be re-stated several different ways before comprehension sinks in but even that is only temporary because the vehemence of the 'anti'-ness wallpapers over it again.
I'm always suspicious of those who are bit too keen on (or indeed rabidly against) religion but a simple 'faith guides me' (i.e. a strong leaning towards a set of principles) I have no problem with - it's how some take their 'pray for guidance' aspect and the difference between 'inspired' and 'instructed' that we start to see possibilities worthy of concern and if someone has to do 15 speeches and 20 articles explaining that it really is god's work then it's worth asking them to give their exact reasoning again just one more time, so the jury can hear them properly
So does anyone have the actual quote where she actually said 'god made me do it' or did she in fact say "I suppose there is something in terms of faith" which obviously is exactly the same thing, I mean the words are all identical and everything. Are there not more useful criticisms to be lobbing?
The remarks May made are a long way from qualifying as 'nut' but if that's the assumption people want to make, along with other wrong assumptions, that's something for their own consideration.
The remarks May made are a long way from qualifying as 'nut' but if that's the assumption people want to make, along with other wrong assumptions, that's something for their own consideration.
Maybe she believes in Santa too and can give all us Remaindeers a nice Xmas pressy - a resignation in favour of someone who knows what they are doing. Only problem is...
God does not exist, I find it stupid that our leader takes political advice from an imaginary being.
Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble:
“I'm always suspicious of those who are bit too keen on (or indeed rabidly against) religion but a simple 'faith guides me' (i.e. a strong leaning towards a set of principles)”
“I'm always suspicious of those who are bit too keen on (or indeed rabidly against) religion but a simple 'faith guides me' (i.e. a strong leaning towards a set of principles)”
Hebrews 11:1
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.'
Originally Posted by 1Mickey:
“Thats interesting. I can't remember ever reading about taxpayers wanting to pay over £50 million for EU rights in The Bible.
Must be the same Bible that expounds Christian values like that poor people work harder if you take away their money but rich people work harder if you give them more.”
“Thats interesting. I can't remember ever reading about taxpayers wanting to pay over £50 million for EU rights in The Bible.
Must be the same Bible that expounds Christian values like that poor people work harder if you take away their money but rich people work harder if you give them more.”
Which chapter(s) and verse(s) say this?
Originally Posted by DPS:
“Hebrews 11:1
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.'”
“Hebrews 11:1
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.'”
Er... yes...? Or possibly no? I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. How many definitions and understandings of 'faith' are we allowed to have? And is that a big 'f' or small 'F'?
I ask because 99% of the times that people quote bibley things I either miss the point or they have missed the point, or everybody has missed the point, and the poh-tah-toes end up overdone and we have to have mash instead of roasties again.
Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble:
“Er... yes...? Or possibly no? I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. How many definitions and understandings of 'faith' are we allowed to have? And is that a big 'f' or small 'F'?
I ask because 99% of the times that people quote bibley things I either miss the point or they have missed the point, or everybody has missed the point, and the poh-tah-toes end up overdone and we have to have mash instead of roasties again.”
“Er... yes...? Or possibly no? I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. How many definitions and understandings of 'faith' are we allowed to have? And is that a big 'f' or small 'F'?
I ask because 99% of the times that people quote bibley things I either miss the point or they have missed the point, or everybody has missed the point, and the poh-tah-toes end up overdone and we have to have mash instead of roasties again.”
You stated that faith is 'a strong leaning towards a set of principles'. That is your definition. Hebrews states God's definition of faith. Principles differ from person to person, but God's principles remain unchanged. If people of professed religious faith base that faith on their own principles, then they're not necessarily basing it on God's principles. So human definitions of faith can also differ from person to person, depending on what each person chooses to believe.
For people of professed faith, there should be only one definition. God's.
Originally Posted by DPS:
“For people of professed faith, there should be only one definition. God's.”
“For people of professed faith, there should be only one definition. God's.”
Ah OK, I get what you mean now!
But I strongly disagree because that 'one definition' will vary depending on translation, and the question of 'whose god and in what sense' will be close behind. Does everyone always interpret the same principles in the same way? Who gets to decide whose interpretation is correct?
i.e. "That would be an ecumenical matter"
god speaks to me quite regularly and he told me he is pro eu and we should remain a member if we leave no english people will be allowed to enter heaven
Faith means Faith.
So according to the first hit @ Google, Faith means either Faith 1.1 or Faith 1.2. Which at least is better than the various solutions for Brexit
Quote:
“faith
feɪθ/
noun
noun: faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, reliance, dependence; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope, expectation
"he completely justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, persuasion, religious persuasion, religious belief, belief, code of belief, ideology, creed, teaching, dogma, doctrine
"she gave her life for her faith"”
“faith
feɪθ/
noun
noun: faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, reliance, dependence; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope, expectation
"he completely justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, persuasion, religious persuasion, religious belief, belief, code of belief, ideology, creed, teaching, dogma, doctrine
"she gave her life for her faith"”
So according to the first hit @ Google, Faith means either Faith 1.1 or Faith 1.2. Which at least is better than the various solutions for Brexit
Originally Posted by nos_nilrub:
“god speaks to me quite regularly and he told me he is pro eu and we should remain a member if we leave no english people will be allowed to enter heaven”
“god speaks to me quite regularly and he told me he is pro eu and we should remain a member if we leave no english people will be allowed to enter heaven”
That goes against the scriptures according to Yorkshire who believe not only do they go to Heaven as an automatic right, they live in it and own it.
Unfortunately, Yorkshire exists; proof being we have the Pennines to separate us....
Originally Posted by DPS:
“For people of professed faith, there should be only one definition. God's.”
“For people of professed faith, there should be only one definition. God's.”
It all depends on which god you follow.
Originally Posted by howard h:
“So according to the first hit @ Google, Faith means either Faith 1.1 or Faith 1.2.”
“So according to the first hit @ Google, Faith means either Faith 1.1 or Faith 1.2.”
And you expect us to believe that
Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble:
“And you expect us to believe that”
“And you expect us to believe that
”
Dunno, better ask Faith. Is she on facebook, sorry, faithbook??
Originally Posted by nos_nilrub:
“god speaks to me quite regularly and he told me he is pro eu and we should remain a member if we leave no english people will be allowed to enter heaven”
“god speaks to me quite regularly and he told me he is pro eu and we should remain a member if we leave no english people will be allowed to enter heaven”
Suits me fine.
Originally Posted by howard h:
“That goes against the scriptures according to Yorkshire who believe not only do they go to Heaven as an automatic right, they live in it and own it.
Unfortunately, Yorkshire exists; proof being we have the Pennines to separate us....”
“That goes against the scriptures according to Yorkshire who believe not only do they go to Heaven as an automatic right, they live in it and own it.
Unfortunately, Yorkshire exists; proof being we have the Pennines to separate us....”
For which Yorkies are truly thankfull.
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“It all depends on which god you follow.”
“It all depends on which god you follow.”
There is only one true God, (aka Allah)
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“There is only one true God, (aka Allah)”
“There is only one true God, (aka Allah)
”
What about Jehovah?
*ducks*
I expect her asking for guidance went something like this - https://youtu.be/mkcKQmr7kRc
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“The ultimate expert - the one who knows if you've been naughty or nice.”
“The ultimate expert - the one who knows if you've been naughty or nice.”
Ban Ki Moon?
Edit: (for those who have no idea what I'm talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNmkr-1rTk0 )
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