Which just shows, that he doesn't have a huge ego, he's a great sportsman, and a good guy. But if he entered the final dances with no hope and want to win, that's not good, honestly.

That's a matter of opinion. Danny was in the dance off the week before the final, so it wouldn't be surprising to find out that he felt like he had no chance of winning.

Which I mentioned already. Expecting to win and wanting to win are two different things. Wanting to win is good, expecting to win is obnoxious.

Both Danny and Ore wanted to win, I believe neither expected to win, more so Ore going by Jo & Ore's reaction when his name was called out.

Louise, I think she would like to have won but to be honest I don't think she was that fussed, she was just happy to be in the final.

Jo's reaction was priceless. One second she was gazing off, tapping away with the crowd and waiting for someone elses name to be called, and the next she's curled up and slack jawed as if she'd been punched. Thank goodness Kevin rescued her, she was in danger of being trampled down there.😊

I think every celeb who signs up does a little bit of performance training in the summer to get ready, so even Ed balls, but it still makes him a 30 year old novice with no prior training to this year, which is remarkable.

The bbc never release the voting figures, so nothing different to every year. No fix this year.

The final, well I think he proved himself as one of the best and most worthy winners in recent years, I do not rember a final where the winner nailed every single dance on the night in such a way. So one of the best winners in recent years.

Ore on this morning today, had to laugh at ITV twitter saying Ore is the first This Morning presenter to win Strictly

I think people are forgetting Danny himself is actually one of Ore's biggest fans. He looked so genuinely happy for him when they won and was the first to run up and give him a hug telling him to go get his glitterball.

The two seemed to have struck up a lovely little friendship. Looking delighted for each other when they got good scores and patting each other on the back when things didn't go so well. I think Ore would have been just as happy for Danny and if you look back just before their names are called Ore it looks like Ore is looking at Danny and Oti with a smile, expecting their names to be called.

Ore and Jo pulled it our the bag for the final and fully deserved their win. I'm sure Danny and Oti are just very proud of their own achievments, and happy for their friends. It's a reality show after all not the be all and end all.

I agree.

I didn't notice Ore's smile.

Despite wanting Danny to win, I was pleasantly surprised that Ore won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9tLuviQdqw

Im not, I really feel Danny is a good sport, a great dancer and quite a nice person and I do agree with len, I do not think Ore woukd have been so good if Danny didn't set that standard from week one.

i thought his reaction to ore winnig was lobely, he seemed so happy for him, as did Ore when they had done the samba and got the scores.

Danny and Ore seemed to have a really nice relationship, after they had finished all four were hugging each other. Oti said her and Jo are close friends and she was always a fan of jo and had her posters up.

I do not think anyone is saying anythjng bad about Danny, only he wanted to win, which is human nature when you are in a final of a comp. It is nothing to be ashamed of or needto deny.

How is it fake humble if it's true?

He was very clear he would have loved to win as payback for Oti - that is of course him wanting to win, but the reasons why are up to him, so I think it's rather unfair to label him fake because he said he wanted to win for his partner rather than for himself. Ore said the exact same thing (he wanted to win for Jo and for his family) but isn't being labelled a fake for it!

Yes, I noticed that on saturday night, I think he was looking to see what Danny did in the winning moment. I really believe he had no belief he was winnig this and thought danny would be the winner.

Jo too, she was casually clapping along, waiting for the name to be called.

I'm going to label anyone fake who claims to want to win for others and not for themselves at all. There's nothing wrong with wanting to win for your own hard work, for the dedication and being able to pull it off. IMO it's fake humbleness sayng that. For anyone. It annoys me.

There's a big difference in thinking that you deserve to win over others vs wanting to win because you busted your arse off and worked hard for it. IMO the first is obnoxious, the second s healthy and normal. And I don't believe anyone saying, that they want to win for others, bt not for themselves. IMO it's pandering to audiences who demand this eternal humbleness, and not taking pride in your own hard work.

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/new..._Strictly_win/

The CEO of Bournemouth Rugby Club, James Croker, followed Ore’s progress from the start as he played for the club’s First XV team in the 2004/2005 season as a winger.

“I think he epitomised who rugby players are and their values. He was very humble, but very competitive, and had respect for his competitors,” he said.

“He was a winger so he always had fast feet and good footwork. Everyone at the club has got fond memories of him, he’s one of the nicest guys you could meet.”

When asked whether Ore was as emotional after winning a rugby game as he was after winning Strictly, he said: “That was completely uncharacteristic of him, but it was obviously overwhelming for him to win.”

Thanks.

Never tire of watching that

It's a gig to most people who take part - they are looking to expand their public profile one way or another. I think they love doing it or end up doing so but it's still a gig do you really think it wasn't to Ore who's raised his public profile expondentally and what's more there's nothing wrong with that.

Of course, just not in such a direct way. And no there's nothing wrong with it.

yeah....
If you choose to ignore the 2013 Hey Ya dance he did in 'Dance For Comic Relief' which is all over You Tube. No dance training whatsoever for that...ahem...
And one of the luckiest winners. Two dance offs, and the judges 'pet' in the notorious semi final. That stank.

Best of the night. Better than Danny.

And got the most votes.

And won.

Me too, it was such a surprise! I've also waited years for my favourite to win it.

That was a comedy show where they learned a comedy routine. Is that the depths that people are seriously scraping?

Ore only became the judges pet when it looked like he could win - before that people were saying Louise was the pet. The truth is, Ore wasn't the forums pet, which is what is the main issue people have. Lots of winners have been in dance offs and no one whined, but hey ho, I'm sure that was different.

By the 'been in a dance off logic' the rightful winner would have been Louise and I certainly don't see any of her fans screaming fix. Maybe because they can accept that the right person won on the night.

I think that performance is the evidence that he had no dance training. It was pretty rubbish dancing; sporting and mildly drole but there is very little skill in evidence other than a natural sense of rhythm and timing.

After 13 weeks in which the red tops will have gone into his past with a fine toothcomb lopking for evidence of previous dance education for a shock expose. The fact that no such story appeared when it would have been hot, convinces me that he really isn't some closet ballet kid or whatever.

Quite, and I am sure the CEO of Bournemouth Rugby Club would have known of previous dance education.