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I think the public made a good choice of winner. However, it doesn't prove there's no bias against black contestants that affects Strictly voting; it just shows that, if there's a bias, it's not so strong that it outweighs so many other factors that a black contestant can't win.
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This win could be read by the ultra cynical as ultimate damage limitation following the first three eliminations of Melvin, Tameka & Naga...
followed by a couple of weeks ago tonights results just put the cherry on top next time someone shouts racisim think back to SCD 2016 |
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It took 11 years for Strictly to feature a black professional and 12 for a black winner to emerge...still wondering why skin colour is considered important?
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This win could be read by the ultra cynical as ultimate damage limitation following the first three eliminations of Melvin, Tameka & Naga...
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Ore has been taken in by British hearts.
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BBC went into overdrive. That's why Ore won. He'd have been out a few weeks ago otherwise. Ironically, Danny could've won and it wouldn't be racist - Oti's from South Africa!
Instead to counter the racism they give the glitterball to a private school kid and a white woman from Grimsby. Yawn. Len's farewell gift to his Grimsby buddies. Not even to the best of them. I hope the new judge will have no ties with local dance clans. |
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I think the public made a good choice of winner. However, it doesn't prove there's no bias against black contestants that affects Strictly voting; it just shows that, if there's a bias, it's not so strong that it outweighs so many other factors that a black contestant can't win.
Ok, I get it. If a black person gets voted off there is a possibility that the public were racially motivated, but if a black person wins you can't say the same? Yep, that makes sense now, thanks. |
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It would have been very interesting to see how the press would have slanted it if Louise and Kevin had one. I bet racism would have been used as the reason here
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Ok, I get it. If a black person gets voted off there is a possibility that the public were racially motivated, but if a black person wins you can't say the same? Yep, that makes sense now, thanks.
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Oti didn't win...
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It took 11 years for Strictly to feature a black professional and 12 for a black winner to emerge...still wondering why skin colour is considered important?
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BBC went into overdrive. That's why Ore won. He'd have been out a few weeks ago otherwise. Ironically, Danny could've won and it wouldn't be racist - Oti's from South Africa!
Instead to counter the racism they give the glitterball to a private school kid and a white woman from Grimsby. Yawn. |
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Sadly racism is endemic within every society. I can't think of anywhere in the world where it isn't a problem. The best that we can do is manage it and prevent it from limiting people's lives. It would be great if we could eradicate it altogether.
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Sadly racism is endemic within every society. I can't think of anywhere in the world where it isn't a problem. The best that we can do is manage it and prevent it from limiting people's lives. It would be great if we could eradicate it altogether.
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And also sadly accusations of racism are endemic within every society.
What I would love to leave in 2016 is people somehow thinking that being accused of being racist is on a par with people who are on the receiving end of racism. |
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This win could be read by the ultra cynical as ultimate damage limitation following the first three eliminations of Melvin, Tameka & Naga...
Why did they push Ore so hard in the semi finals and the final, why did the voting have issues on those two days, why did the judges give amazing scores to mediocre dances of his, why did he and Tess and Claudia constantly barrage us with shots of his mum and dad and him crying about them and why did Len twice tell the public to camera that Ore is the last remaining contestant with no dance experience and look how great he is now, that isn't his job. So yes, it could all have been fixed to stop the racism charges and it doesn't hurt Ore is a BBC employee either. Its all possible. Did it happen? We will never know and as a final I think this was perhaps the best one Strictly has ever had and I LOVED the way Danny ran over and lifted Ore and hugged him when he was announced the winner. To all those knocking Danny for being all about himself watch that again and again, he is one of the nicest guys out there and has never deserved the hate directed at him. |
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I think that kind of ends that theory now right?
Mind you it hadn't crossed my mind about the colour of the first evictees either. I think its in poor taste and irrelevant to even mention it. |
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I read that Ore is the first winner to have two black parents - and out of however many series that seems a bit skewed to me. We are a pretty multi cultural society and there are lots of non white people from the UK so I think it's good when the demographics on strictly reflect that, and hope it encourages people to take up latin and ballroom as a hobby who maybe wouldn't have considered it before.
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In a tin foil hat wearing world it certainly could. And unfortunately whatever some people might wish to believe we DO live in that world, just look at the American election in November for proof of that. Now obviously Strictly isn't that big a deal in comparison, lol, but could it be fixed, of course it could, easily. So much happens behind the curtain we as the audience never see, the voting stats for one, it would be a piece of cake for the BBC to change outcome as they wished and the people on our tv's like Tess, etc wouldn't even know, they just read the cards and teleprompter they get given.
Why did they push Ore so hard in the semi finals and the final, why did the voting have issues on those two days, why did the judges give amazing scores to mediocre dances of his, why did he and Tess and Claudia constantly barrage us with shots of his mum and dad and him crying about them and why did Len twice tell the public to camera that Ore is the last remaining contestant with no dance experience and look how great he is now, that isn't his job. So yes, it could all have been fixed to stop the racism charges and it doesn't hurt Ore is a BBC employee either. Its all possible. Did it happen? We will never know and as a final I think this was perhaps the best one Strictly has ever had and I LOVED the way Danny ran over and lifted Ore and hugged him when he was announced the winner. To all those knocking Danny for being all about himself watch that again and again, he is one of the nicest guys out there and has never deserved the hate directed at him. I am sure Ore would have run over and congratulated Danny if he had won but I suppose he would be accused of trying to distract from Danny's win and get some glory himself. I am sure Danny is a nice person like most of the people taking part but I never warmed to him, perhaps because I had never heard of him, and I was reading through some of his dances last night because they did not grab my attention. |
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Ok, I get it. If a black person gets voted off there is a possibility that the public were racially motivated, but if a black person wins you can't say the same? Yep, that makes sense now, thanks.
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Lewis Smith, Alesha Dixon? Let's get to stage where we can just vote for the people we like without this being an issue. That's the ultimate end to racism.
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Ore has been taken in by British hearts.
Definitely not by my heart!
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That'll be why they've never shut up about Ore on Breakfast then? Or why Ore has been on ITT more than anyone else recently?
The BBC wanted Ore to win and the judges overmarked him all the way through to trick people into thinking he was better than he was. Ore was in the bottom two twice for a reason - people just didn't like him. Ore should've gone weeks ago, frankly. |
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How many chinese dancers or contestants have been on ? How many Indian dancers or contestants have been on ? Is it only when people are black that the racist card is pulled out ?
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Or maybe they weren't that great at dancing or that engaging as individuals. And Ore was incredible. So glad he won. I'm sure there are some idiots out there who won't vote for somebody based on their ethnicity but I'm glad the majority don't think that way.
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Or maybe they weren't that great at dancing or that engaging as individuals. And Ore was incredible. So glad he won. I'm sure there are some idiots out there who won't vote for somebody based on their ethnicity but I'm glad the majority don't think that way.
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