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Old 19-12-2016, 01:30
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BIB This over-the-top description makes me smile.

FYI I'm not still talking about why a certain someone didn't even reach the final. In fact I was never talking about why this certain someone never reached the final
Why are you posting in this thread then?
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Old 19-12-2016, 03:16
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lol no

I think Claudia would've coped with any nerves from her day job, her Charleston would have been a big crowd pleaser and could've been complemented with her VW maybe. We'll never know for sure, but I suspect she would've stood a better chance of winning than Danny or Louise.
Coping with nerves, have you seen what she does on a beam? .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7xq3ixGYV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LorNcQdfX18

I doubt if she would have been anywhere near as nervous as she was at Rio, the good thing about this experience is she has gained confidence which I think she had lost a little this year in her gymnastics.
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Old 19-12-2016, 06:14
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Yes I think she would have brought a far better performance than Louise who to me looked flat/tired on Saturday.
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Old 22-12-2016, 05:14
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IMO her getting 40 did not suit the agenda of the Producers.
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Old 22-12-2016, 12:03
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I've seen a few professional dancers chime in on how brilliant Claudia's QS was. That it wouldn't have looked out of place at a competition. I saw the same sort of comments for Jay's jive. I think that answers the question about whether she could have competed.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:27
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I've seen a few professional dancers chime in on how brilliant Claudia's QS was. That it wouldn't have looked out of place at a competition. I saw the same sort of comments for Jay's jive. I think that answers the question about whether she could have competed.
I thought Claudia's QS was superb, but it's the only dance of hers that's memorable for me. I didn't feel any connection between her and AJ. AJ's showdance would, I imagine be 'gymtastic' and I loathe that sort of dance, however, it would have been better than the dross that Louise danced.
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Old 22-12-2016, 16:34
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I LOVED her QS, and I loved her energy and determination to learn. She wasn't quite there though. She needed a couple of weeks perhaps.


I think she'd have handled it fine, and done as well as Louise, but not better. And I hate gymnastic showdances and I suspect she would have done one.

But she did seriously well, and with the QS she proved she is a dancer.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:34
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I LOVED her QS, and I loved her energy and determination to learn. She wasn't quite there though. She needed a couple of weeks perhaps.

I think she'd have handled it fine, and done as well as Louise, but not better. And I hate gymnastic showdances and I suspect she would have done one.

But she did seriously well, and with the QS she proved she is a dancer.
In the early part of the series she was criticised for pausing before doing a gymnastic movement, as she would might do in a competition. But later she seemed to be able to incorporate them into a dance so they just seemed a natural part of the dance. I think she might have been able to do that in a showdance because she has the experience and strength to make a quite spectacular gymnastic movement seem effortless.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:48
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Funny how people's opinions differ - my thoughts are basically the complete opposite of yours.

For me this was one of the best finals Strictly's ever had, all three were worthy finalists, but Ore was best on the night. The judges' thoughts are always irrelevant.

To answer the OP's question, no, I don't think Claudia would have been able to compete tonight. I don't think she's as good a dancer as either Ore or Louise, and I don't think AJ would have been able to resist making their showdance a gymnastics-fest. The great joy of tonight for me was seeing three showdances that showcased how good the celebrities were at dancing rather than just being packed full of crazy lifts. Claudia would have looked a bit out of place for me.
Especially when AJ said on ITT that in her showdance if they got to do it her feet wouldn't touch the floor. Another lift heavy showdance - whoopy effing do

That said I think she'd have been better than Louise but she wouldn't have won - a lift-heavy showdance would have seen to that.
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Old 23-12-2016, 21:58
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She was as good as any of the others, bar danny. Who knows what she might have achieved in the final....
She still could have won had she been given any impetus in the semi final from the biased judges, who didn't see her as part of the final. Her QS was superb, her charleston and AT vastly underrated. Only downside was her jive at blackpool and I blame AJ for that. He was too busy showing off instead of making sure they were in sinc! But that was a blip on an upward curve that wasn't matched naturally by any of the others in the last five.
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Old 23-12-2016, 22:12
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Especially when AJ said on ITT that in her showdance if they got to do it her feet wouldn't touch the floor. Another lift heavy showdance - whoopy effing do

That said I think she'd have been better than Louise but she wouldn't have won - a lift-heavy showdance would have seen to that.
I believe that is called a joke.

AJ didn't choreograph the salsa, Charleston or AT. The only lifts he did choreograph were I the AS which weren't especially flashy. Judging by his BGT routines with Chloe, I think the show dance would have been a mix of fairly traditional Latin.
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Old 23-12-2016, 22:36
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I believe that is called a joke.

AJ didn't choreograph the salsa, Charleston or AT. The only lifts he did choreograph were I the AS which weren't especially flashy. Judging by his BGT routines with Chloe, I think the show dance would have been a mix of fairly traditional Latin.
Right at the beginning, AJ said he'd just chuck Claudia around. She accomplished far more than that, and held her own.

I almost wish she had done a gymnastic showdance though, just to upset the moaners!

I expect though that AJ would, as he had done the entire series, seamlessly integrate Claudia's skills into an authentic ballroom and/or latin performance. (Yes, yes, we know the Cha Cha and Jive weren't great)
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Old 27-12-2016, 16:28
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I believe that is called a joke.

AJ didn't choreograph the salsa, Charleston or AT. The only lifts he did choreograph were I the AS which weren't especially flashy. Judging by his BGT routines with Chloe, I think the show dance would have been a mix of fairly traditional Latin.
Ok fair enough I didn't see the ITT episode where he said it so can't judge how tongue in cheek it was or wasn't. However at the end of the day - it was the public that put Louise in the final and however much Claudia would have been (probably quite a bit I'd wager) she wouldn't have won probably.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:04
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I am bumping the thread because there arent any others for discussion.
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Old 30-12-2016, 23:15
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This was a sub-par final. There was no intensity or excitement and it seemed really obvious that the judges wanted Ore to win. In the end it was Danny that should've won based on tonight's performances and, just like Kellie last year, he lost out.
To answer your original question, yes Claudia and AJ would've totally been able to compete with that and no doubt in my mind their show dance would've stolen the show. No matter what happened in the end, Claudia was still a better dancer than both Ore and Louise.
The height difference was always awkward and ugly to watch. Claudia had too few facial expressions and Danny simply suffered from peaking too early in the public sympathy vote.

Definitely not a sub-par final. Standard of dancing way above that of previous years in the Series 4 up to 11 years. Intensity and excitement are purely subjective and if you didn't like the result, well tough, millions of us did.

Another sourpuss post. Amazing how much vinegar is around these days post-Brexit.
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:37
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The height difference was always awkward and ugly to watch. Claudia had too few facial expressions and Danny simply suffered from peaking too early in the public sympathy vote.

Definitely not a sub-par final. Standard of dancing way above that of previous years in the Series 4 up to 11 years. Intensity and excitement are purely subjective and if you didn't like the result, well tough, millions of us did.

Another sourpuss post. Amazing how much vinegar is around these days post-Brexit.
Sounding rather bitter yourself. I suppose you think that your perception of Claudia and AJ's dancing/performance is totally objective?

It's no secret that in the final many found Louise underwhelming (particularly the Cha Cha and showdance...AT better), Danny messed up his Quickstep and Ore had two similar styles. I do genuinely believe we've had higher standards in other finals.

Anyway, give me a shot of vinegar over a blue pill any day
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Old 31-12-2016, 11:55
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I've seen a few professional dancers chime in on how brilliant Claudia's QS was. That it wouldn't have looked out of place at a competition. I saw the same sort of comments for Jay's jive. I think that answers the question about whether she could have competed.
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Old 31-12-2016, 20:26
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The height difference was always awkward and ugly to watch. Claudia had too few facial expressions and Danny simply suffered from peaking too early
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