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Old 17-12-2016, 22:08
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Can we count Bacofoil as a "mess up", or is it just an absolute mess?
Bacofoil can't be counted as a mess up because it had every appearance of being designed to be danced that way.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:09
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Danny made some pretty huge mistakes tonight & his and Oti's show dance, in my opinion was very drama school teen angsty... quite embarrassing

The judges obviously had to point it out, Craig was generous with a 9 imo. The Samba pulled them back from the brink but who votes that late? It was a forgone conclusion that Ore would be the winner... Louise's Cha Cha had no rhythm/hip action & as much as I loved it, contemporary isn't for everyone ... so their show dance was a moot point... sadly

Singer singing Adele's 'Fire to the Rain' didn't help matters & was pretty terrible too, maybe the BBC could actually use tracks for the final next series?

Has there been any other more obvious slip ups in the final before - I can't seem to recall
Tom Chambers slipped on the floor and nearly went on his behuki during his Final Foxtrot but still won thanks mainly to his Showdance
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:10
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Danny's mistake in the Quickstep was obvious so had to be mentioned. The others weren't perfect either in all of theirs - I thought Ore looked exhausted in his Jive and thought Louise had a couple of slightly iffy moments in her Cha Cha.

I didn't spot any mistakes in Danny's showdance but I was completely swept away by it so probably wouldn't have cared if there were, I thought it was amazing.

It was Louise's showdance that I thought was a complete mess - I thought the lift in the middle that the judges praised looked as if it went horribly wrong (it seemed to be a pretty similar lift to the one Darcey hated in Danny's AS last week), and after that it looked as if they were off-time and just making it up!

Just goes to show how subjective it all is and how we all spot some things but miss others depending on what we're focusing on at the time!
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:12
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I know his showdance was very popular on here but a few seconds in I knew Oti had misjudged it and it was a poor choice. I'm sure that contributed to him losing too.
In your opinion, not fact. I thought it was the standout dance of the night (though Ore's was bloody good too!).
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:12
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It was very Dancing with the Stars--angsty contempo + gimmicky prop work. I think a lot of Strictly viewers prefer more conventional ballroom numbers if given the choice. And it didn't suit Danny's strengths.
Exactly my thoughts. As a dance it was entertaining but it was poorly judged as a showdance.

Joanne won that battle hands down. Understanding your audience is key.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:14
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In your opinion, not fact. I thought it was the standout dance of the night (though Ore's was bloody good too!).
Of course in my opinion And probably that of a sizable number of voters.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:14
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It was very Dancing with the Stars--angsty contempo + gimmicky prop work. I think a lot of Strictly viewers prefer more conventional ballroom numbers if given the choice. And it didn't suit Danny's strengths.
I think Strictly's demographic. ESPECIALLY in the finals, are generally older, so they will like a traditional dance more than a modern looking dance.

Ore's dance hit the spot with its nostalgic Hollywood feel. Coming after that Singing in the Rain performance it sealed the deal.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:17
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I think Strictly's demographic. ESPECIALLY in the finals, are generally older, so they will like a traditional dance more than a modern looking dance.

Ore's dance hit the spot with its nostalgic Hollywood feel. Coming after that Singing in the Rain performance it sealed the deal.
Absolutely. It probably went a good way to contributing to Danny losing and Ore winning.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:22
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For me it was all about who danced best on the night because I had no favourites. Up until last week I had never voted Ore but I absolutely loved his and Joanne's dances tonight so he got my votes.

Danny definitely wasn't at his best and I was never a fan of his samba even though I can appreciate how dramatic and well danced it was.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:28
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Still boggles my mind that Caroline Flack won with her contemporary number, but then a lot of the viewing public like Pasha so... and her Charleston to 'Istanbul' was brilliant!

See I'm not in that demographic and tbh I really disliked Ore's numbers, except the Jive so it could very well be an age thing. I wouldn't vote for them for sure.

Isn't there a slide in Tom's foxtrot routine? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:30
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Of course in my opinion And probably that of a sizable number of voters.
You stated Oti had misjudged it as if it were fact, I was pointing out that not everyone thought it was a misjudgement. And I really don't think anyone can make any sort of assertion about how people voted and why except for the obvious that Ore got more votes than the other two.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:33
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You stated Oti had misjudged it as if it were fact, I was pointing out that not everyone thought it was a misjudgement. And I really don't think anyone can make any sort of assertion about how people voted and why except for the obvious that Ore got more votes than the other two.
I haven't seen anyone on here post a warning that what they have typed is their opinion and not to be taken as fact!

We all post our opinion.

Even you
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:35
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Danny may have made mistakes but he was still very good. He's my winner. I loved all of his dances.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:36
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Jay's Quickstep last year was as bad as it was first time round 🙈
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:38
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I said to my husband this week that Danny wouldn't win because he wouldn't cope with 3 dances. Even though he's done 2 before. He's a slow learner. Until the semi final he was training 11 hours a day Mon- Thurs for a 2 minute dance routine. I was surprised the showdance got 40. He made errors, I saw them so did a few people on this site. He was a good dancer. Trouble is, no real journey.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:40
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I said to my husband this week that Danny wouldn't win because he wouldn't cope with 3 dances. Even though he's done 2 before. He's a slow learner. Until the semi final he was training 11 hours a day Mon- Thurs for a 2 minute dance routine. I was surprised the showdance got 40. He made errors, I saw them so did a few people on this site. He was a good dancer. Trouble is, no real journey.
I don't mean to single out your post specifically but along with prior dance experience, I am SO fed up with the whole journey talk. I simply want to be entertained by good dancing.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:41
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I said to my husband this week that Danny wouldn't win because he wouldn't cope with 3 dances. Even though he's done 2 before. He's a slow learner. Until the semi final he was training 11 hours a day Mon- Thurs for a 2 minute dance routine. I was surprised the showdance got 40. He made errors, I saw them so did a few people on this site. He was a good dancer. Trouble is, no real journey.
All three celebrities made errors tonight; none of them were perfect. Danny's issue was the he made the biggest, most obvious, error of the lot in the Quickstep.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:48
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Jay McGuiness - he was the worst on show in the Final last year.
Immaterial to the OP's question.

The world and his son knows that Jay would have still beaten Kellie & Georgia hands down last year if he had come on stage and simply broken wind.
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I quite liked Jay but the second coming adulation for him turned me off. I don't think the Danny love had the same hysteria and I liked Danny a lot.

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Old 17-12-2016, 22:48
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I think Strictly's demographic. ESPECIALLY in the finals, are generally older, so they will like a traditional dance more than a modern looking dance.

Ore's dance hit the spot with its nostalgic Hollywood feel. Coming after that Singing in the Rain performance it sealed the deal.
I'm actually not sure where this idea comes from.

As a pretty late middle aged lady I danced a HECK of a lot of contemporareh, and was a bloody disco diva.

I think a LOT of people, younger than you think (my family) like 'traditional' because it's what Strictly was about, and it introduced them, as children, to a disciplined form of dance.

And plenty of clever youngsters RESPECT 'retro' skills.

Ore 'hit the spot' because THAT'S what Strictly is actually about, for a LOT of us, not just the 'old'.

We've been educated by Strictly (at its best) and ALL of us have been exposed to 'dance and movement' and that's NOT what a lot of people want.

Strictly has that SPECIAL discipline. It loses that at it's peril.

People, not just the old, VALUE that.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:56
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I quite liked Jay but the second coming adulation for him turned me off. I don't think the Danny love had the same hysteria and I liked Danny a lot.

If the Danny love had the same hysteria he would have probably won.
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:01
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I don't mind single out your post specifically but along with prior dance experience, I am SO fed up with the whole journey talk. I simply want to be entertained by good dancing.
Same here! I had the exact same argument with family about the dance experience/non-dance experience point tonight. I don't care if the celeb has danced every day for 15 years, if they're a good dancer AND performer, they'll probably be my favourites.

But equally some of those without any dance in their history can be brilliant too - Ore is a great example of that.

Just goes to show that different people take different things from the show.
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:05
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I think Strictly's demographic. ESPECIALLY in the finals, are generally older, so they will like a traditional dance more than a modern looking dance.

Ore's dance hit the spot with its nostalgic Hollywood feel. Coming after that Singing in the Rain performance it sealed the deal.
I assume that younger people are more likely to vote though, especially online!
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:12
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I know his showdance was very popular on here but a few seconds in I knew Oti had misjudged it and it was a poor choice. I'm sure that contributed to him losing too.
I agree, although I did like it, it was a bit too combative, in the final it feels like they should be together and celebrating them as a couple.
I have felt quute a few of their dances to have an excess of aggression, especially their argentine tango, it felt almost violent at the end.

I think casual watchers and voters maybe saw that against Ore and Jo who looked like they were having a great time togther and putting on a show and voted for the overall feel good factor of it.
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:42
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Jay McGuiness - he was the worst on show in the Final last year.
Immaterial to the OP's question.

The world and his son knows that Jay would have still beaten Kellie & Georgia hands down last year if he had come on stage and simply broken wind.
Where was the mistake though????
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:23
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Danny is arguably the best male celeb dancer there's been on SCD and who knows, he might be the best ever. It's hard to imagine many male celebs dancing better than him. He's raised the bar incredibly high.

As for making mistakes, he's only human. Overall he was a class act.
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