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Old 17-12-2016, 23:08
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Please stop making his departure about mental health issues. He never said it was and chose not to give a reason for quitting.
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:20
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As someone who has suffered from mental health issues, as have members of my family, I can completely understand him not wishing to return (if that was the reason he left). Sometimes it is best to walk away and just leave something in the past.
those that haven't suffered will not understand and think you are and he are a wimp and where is their backbone etc?

I'm hoping most will totally agree but fear that some will continue to condemn in ignorance
I wouldn't wish mental illness on anyone apart from a very brief spell on those narrow minded bigoted individuals who judge froim a position of ignorance#
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:23
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The nonentity wasn't missed at all.
Why this thread then?

Of course he was missed,
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:56
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Seems he was missed by quite a few of you hence you can't shut up about him.

I wish him well.
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:58
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Please stop making his departure about mental health issues. He never said it was and chose not to give a reason for quitting.
hahaha you really believe his departure was for other reasons?

I was gutted when he left as his chemistry with karen was on a level like no other seen on strictly
as in being able to laugh and take the p out of each other and giggle

his demons turned him into a failure

shame he couldn't have spoken to someone who had the same crap in his head and maybe could have helped
some people with the same probs park there car in front of trains
leaving behind wife kids and wealth
others find a way through the crap to live normal happy lives

spotlight on for even those few weeks will you have my admiration will
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Old 18-12-2016, 06:19
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I love how people presume the mental health issues....There has been no word on that or even suggestion by Will in his autobiography years ago. If there were i doubt he'd be doing the gigs he is doing now. He takes himself too seriously like Cowell said, he got all excited over The Voice gig, looked annoyed when he lost the Oliver award etc. Just have fun Will, it's not a serious competition....you're not competing for a music career etc

All we've had is personal reasons which could mean anything really.I also think if he had a good reason he would have been advised by management to say it by now which makes me think and his comment a few days later about being 'dandy' would suggest that it's not family, health etc. at all. I think personally just in my own opinion, that Will got the hump after Len's comment, which was intended as a joke and just seemed to tirade into 'I can't be asked with this anymore' if i can't even correct a judge? He is very competitive and i bet you now he thought he had a shot at winning until he realized how tough Danny/Louise would be to beat. It's a shame as he was good on the first 3 weeks.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:11
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Seems he was missed by quite a few of you hence you can't shut up about him.

I wish him well.
Thank you for your voice of reason and good sense.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:28
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Will didn't deserve to be there, I'd have been more annoyed if he had.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:40
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Will snubs final - or decides after some thought to stay away.
Furious fans - or fans disappointed they won't see their favourite.

Typical tabloid speak.
Outrage - several people miffed
Chaos - several people unsure.
Biased - don't prefer who I prefer
Etc.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:47
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Thank you for your voice of reason and good sense.
😊

I have my own daily battles, one of which is constantly dealing with the ignorant and judgemental. I completely understand why people end their life.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:48
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Will snubs final - or decides after some thought to stay away.
Furious fans - or fans disappointed they won't see their favourite.

Typical tabloid speak.
Outrage - several people miffed
Chaos - several people unsure.
Biased - don't prefer who I prefer
Etc.
You forgot; several unpleasant people who can't let things go.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:02
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When they run the VT of all the contestants I think, who the hell are they and have forgotten they were even in SCD. Why should we worry about another one of them, of limited popularity now, anyway?
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:09
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I never expected him to feature in last night's final, he left under a cloud after all, so I don't know why his fans are "outraged."
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:15
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I love how people presume the mental health issues....There has been no word on that or even suggestion by Will in his autobiography years ago. If there were i doubt he'd be doing the gigs he is doing now. He takes himself too seriously like Cowell said, he got all excited over The Voice gig, looked annoyed when he lost the Oliver award etc. Just have fun Will, it's not a serious competition....you're not competing for a music career etc

All we've had is personal reasons which could mean anything really.I also think if he had a good reason he would have been advised by management to say it by now which makes me think and his comment a few days later about being 'dandy' would suggest that it's not family, health etc. at all. I think personally just in my own opinion, that Will got the hump after Len's comment, which was intended as a joke and just seemed to tirade into 'I can't be asked with this anymore' if i can't even correct a judge? He is very competitive and i bet you now he thought he had a shot at winning until he realized how tough Danny/Louise would be to beat. It's a shame as he was good on the first 3 weeks.
That makes perfect sense and i agree with your every word.

Will didn't truly think Ballroom Dancing would be so hard, or the other celebrities would be so good, and after Len's comments he just threw in the towel. I think Will really thought he'd do well, which he did to a large degree, but there were others who were doing better, and he just couldn't take it, or the criticism. I think Will is very vain underneath the surface.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:21
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It was his loss....not mine.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:43
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The 'mental health' issues were alleged and never shown to be fact and Young quit the show October 11th. A few weeks later he's performing at a concert in London so that speaks for itself. When Len Goodman gave him sound advice he threw his dummy out of his pram.
Len didn't give Will 'sound advice' he ripped into him for something that wasn't even his fault. Len didn't critise his dancing he critised the routine's content which wasn't his remit and he wasn't responsible for at least Craig critised Natalie who did devise her routine but if she got upset enough to cry who do think it made Will feel.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:52
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Any event can only be improved by the absence of this irritating, self-obsessed bore...
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Old 18-12-2016, 10:00
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hahaha you really believe his departure was for other reasons?

I was gutted when he left as his chemistry with karen was on a level like no other seen on strictly
as in being able to laugh and take the p out of each other and giggle

his demons turned him into a failure

shame he couldn't have spoken to someone who had the same crap in his head and maybe could have helped
some people with the same probs park there car in front of trains
leaving behind wife kids and wealth
others find a way through the crap to live normal happy lives

spotlight on for even those few weeks will you have my admiration will
You're the one making assumptions with no evidence. He did not give a reason for his departure and never said or insinuated that he left because of mental health issues. You do not know him personally, so stop projecting.
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Old 18-12-2016, 10:10
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How much do they get paid for strictly? Hope beeb get a refund .
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:26
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How much do they get paid for strictly? Hope beeb get a refund .
It was reported his pay cheque was cut by £20k when he broke his contract and i imagine the pay scale varies according to 'star status'.

Of course the final dance show of all contestants was also a farewell to Len Goodmans retirement from the show and Young was still bitter at being put in his place.
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Old 19-12-2016, 04:22
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Len didn't give Will 'sound advice' he ripped into him for something that wasn't even his fault. Len didn't critise his dancing he critised the routine's content which wasn't his remit and he wasn't responsible for at least Craig critised Natalie who did devise her routine but if she got upset enough to cry who do think it made Will feel.
Len was very fair with Will, until Will attempted to pick his brains, and question his critique. Will came across like a simpering self obsessed baby who quit because not everyone was going to fall at their knees to him. Some of the fans who just follow him blindly and who are always there to take his side really don't help matters, and only perpetuate his own perceived visions of grandeur. I used to love Will in the very early days, but slowly it began to dawn on me what an incredible vain and self obsessed individual he really is. He needs to really stop regarding himself as something sacred, and come down off his pedestal, and not take himself so seriously, like the rest of the celebrities appear to do. Strictly Come Dancing should be about having fun.
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Old 19-12-2016, 08:16
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Len was very fair with Will, until Will attempted to pick his brains, and question his critique. Will came across like a simpering self obsessed baby who quit because not everyone was going to fall at their knees to him. Some of the fans who just follow him blindly and who are always there to take his side really don't help matters, and only perpetuate his own perceived visions of grandeur. I used to love Will in the very early days, but slowly it began to dawn on me what an incredible vain and self obsessed individual he really is. He needs to really stop regarding himself as something sacred, and come down off his pedestal, and not take himself so seriously, like the rest of the celebrities appear to do. Strictly Come Dancing should be about having fun.
I'd have re-watch the dance comments on You Tube to be sure but my memory of it is Len having a go about the lack of dance content which wasn't Will's fault and it struck because I hate Len doing that having a go at celeb for what is either the pro or the producer's fault. I'm not a particular Will fan by any means - what he does is just not my cup of tea - but I remain unconvinced he's a diva, I think mental illness is poorly understood and I think a lot of so-called fans need to understand that they do not own him and if leaving Strictly was the right thing to do for him for whatever personal reasons he had then that is his right and he's done the right thing.
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Old 19-12-2016, 09:13
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Len was very fair with Will, until Will attempted to pick his brains, and question his critique. Will came across like a simpering self obsessed baby who quit because not everyone was going to fall at their knees to him. Some of the fans who just follow him blindly and who are always there to take his side really don't help matters, and only perpetuate his own perceived visions of grandeur. I used to love Will in the very early days, but slowly it began to dawn on me what an incredible vain and self obsessed individual he really is. He needs to really stop regarding himself as something sacred, and come down off his pedestal, and not take himself so seriously, like the rest of the celebrities appear to do. Strictly Come Dancing should be about having fun.
You mean you have soaked up what you've read and believe the worst.

We get you dislike him intensely (what's he ever done to you) but no need to be so full of bile.

*Awaits the next Sun / Dan Wootton exclusive* : WILL YOUNG SNUBS THE STRICTLY TOUR

Some people can't stop talking about him.
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Old 19-12-2016, 09:14
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I am glad that Will Young pulled out, because of that we only had three couples in the final. This meant that every couple had the chance to do a show dance. I have been disappointed in previous years when one of the last four has been eliminated without having a chance to dance their show dance.
I loved the final tonight.
It didn't always work like that. I remember Sophie and Brendan doing a show dance, but then was very miffed when they went out first and we didn't get to see their Charleston.
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Old 19-12-2016, 10:02
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I'd have re-watch the dance comments on You Tube to be sure but my memory of it is Len having a go about the lack of dance content which wasn't Will's fault and it struck because I hate Len doing that having a go at celeb for what is either the pro or the producer's fault. I'm not a particular Will fan by any means - what he does is just not my cup of tea - but I remain unconvinced he's a diva, I think mental illness is poorly understood and I think a lot of so-called fans need to understand that they do not own him and if leaving Strictly was the right thing to do for him for whatever personal reasons he had then that is his right and he's done the right thing.
The thing about Strictly Come Dancing ultimately, is both the professionals, the celebrities, and the judges, are prepared to 'play the game', for want of a better term, in the name of entertainment, to make it an attractive show to watch for the audience. It is a great show, but if you delve a little beneath the surface, not everything is especially logical, or fair. Many of those professional dancers excel in certain areas of dance more than others. For example, Anton is pretty poor at Latin, so anyone who has him as a partner, are immediately going to have a disadvantage of not progressing so well in the Latin American dances etc. However, the judges wisely never make that a talking point, because the ramifications of delving a little too deep with the professionals would be to take the fun out of the show appearing entertaining. The show's emphasis really is about how well the celebrities are doing. Also, you get the celebrities and the professionals being ill suited in terms of height difference, which really wouldn't be practical in a serious dance competition - Anton and Ann Widdecombe immediately spring to mind also, but again in the spirit of the programme there is an element of everyone cooperating to make the show good entertainment. Even pitting the male celebrities against the female celebrities can be deemed unfair because the men have the added responsibility of also having to lead.

There are many things that aren't completely fair, but i think it is good that the vast majority of those who take part do see the show for what it is. That's not to say that they don't want to do well, of course, but there really is also a pantomime element to appearing in the show, that many participants manage to grasp, and engage in. Len, or Craig, especially, may sometimes not always appear the most tactful in what they say, perhaps, but most celebrities take it with a pinch of salt, and know it makes for entertaining viewing. After all, many of those taking part have little to lose, because they have already established themselves in their own chosen fields, which are often rather lucrative. In that regard it is a very different show to the X Factor. However, in the case of Will Young and his prickly ego, he just couldn't accept those things. He took everything personally, and he refused even to come back in the final show, like all of the other celebrities managed to do. He really did come off as a very poor sport indeed, and many won't forget in a hurry.
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