DS Forums

 
 

Why did the judges choose Louise's lowest scoring dance?


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 18-12-2016, 00:09
Maggie 55
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,492

It was really odd, the judges choices.

With Danny they could have chosen any dance frankly and he had the potential for top marks, everyone knows he is the best dancer. They chose the QS, a dance that could have scored 40 first time around. Clearly they expected, as did the vast majority on here, that he would actually score 40.

With Ore they chose the dance that lots of folk loved the best and could easily have been the couples own choice and again would have scored far more highly if it had been danced later in the series, a bit like Jay's jive. Then they threw the cherry on the cake by bringing over Gene Kelly's widow!

With Louise they chose her lowest scoring dance. A dance she was clearly not comfortable with. A woman in her forties, with two kids, who would have been the oldest ever winner of Strictly, having to dance a pelvic movement dance like the Cha Cha in a leotard! Nowhere to hide, exposed.

How many celebs, even the very young, have ever had to dance in a leotard?

Clearly she was not happy as she referred to the leotard a number of times.

I just can't understand the equity of it.



Maggie
Maggie 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 18-12-2016, 00:15
sam67jane
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 335
I wasn't a big Louise fan but I think she got royally screwed with that dance choice. Her AS or Waltz would have been much fairer in comparison to what the boys were given.
sam67jane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:23
Stuart25
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 11,806
I really don't think it's the judges that choose the dance, and I've thought this for a few years now.
Stuart25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:24
fabulist
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 455
Hmm hadn't realised it was her lowest...That can't be "right" or fair. Frankly I'm sick of the control the BBC has over who leaves/who wins.

I hate the dance off. The fact that a contestant can be the least popular for weeks without leaving. It's not fair on the public nor the contestant (in a situation like Jamelia). So I wish they did away with the dance off.

I also dislike Lord Len having the final say if the decision is split. More nonsense.

And then for the "judges" (BBC) to decide what is danced in the Final - No. Just no. A public choice & celebrity choice would be more appropriate.

But this would mean the show was for the public, who the BBC has nothing but contempt for. Why else would they refuse to say who comes 2nd? People either don't care or want to know. Only the producers want it secret.
fabulist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:25
jiroos
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,200
I wasn't a big Louise fan but I think she got royally screwed with that dance choice. Her AS or Waltz would have been much fairer in comparison to what the boys were given.
"Royally screwed"???

DigitalSpy has decreed that every move the judges made was to favour Louise and Kevin - why would this be any different?

They 'clearly' chose her Cha Cha Cha for her own good.... (rolleyes)
jiroos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:26
Nina_Blake
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Land of Glitter
Posts: 2,573
"Royally screwed"???

DigitalSpy has decreed that every move the judges made was to favour Louise and Kevin - why would this be any different - they 'clearly' chose it for her own good.... (rolleyes)
It was given to her to generate pity votes, don'tcha know?
Nina_Blake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:27
jay_b1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 125
They wanted to see more hip action... it didn't happen and some of the moves looked stiff

I knew it was the Cha Cha Cha before it was even announced. She performed well but you need that snap-hip action and straight legs... it wasn't all there, sadly. She was tired I think and ready for it to come to an end. Such a shame as the song is a classic, with the right snap crackle and pop - that could have been an Amazing routine but just nah.

Show dance was beautiful though, contemporary should be added next year! <3
jay_b1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:43
fridgesoup
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 9,817
I wasn't a big Louise fan but I think she got royally screwed with that dance choice. Her AS or Waltz would have been much fairer in comparison to what the boys were given.
I agree.

It was an awful dance. I felt sorry for her.
fridgesoup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:45
davegold
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,216
I think people like Karen hardy have said in the past that the cha cha is pretty tough for the celebs as a dance late in the series. Not too hard in week 1 but hard to master for a semi-final.
davegold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:53
Maggie 55
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,492
I think people like Karen hardy have said in the past that the cha cha is pretty tough for the celebs as a dance late in the series. Not too hard in week 1 but hard to master for a semi-final.
I think the choice would have been similar to choosing Ore's lowest scoring dance, which was also the Cha Cha Cha, and making him dance it in his underpants.

Now that's equity!



Maggie
Maggie 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:56
High Windows
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 7
By picking her lowest scoring dance, I think they were going for the 'Journey' angle - 'oh look how you've improved and grown in confidence since Week 3'...etc. That and 'What a Feeling' is a nice feel good track. Problem was, there was no real improvement.
High Windows is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 00:59
sydrob
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 697
I think they picked dances all of the couples said they had loved at the time of dancing them. When she danced that in week 3 I vaguely remember her saying something about she had always wanted to dance Flashdance. And it was much better, I couldn't watch it the first time. This time at least she looked like she was enjoying herself1
sydrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 01:01
EthanE
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 342
They said they chose it because she won the cha cha challenge so they thought she'd make a massive improvement if she did her cha cha cha again. It was an interesting idea but her problems with the dance weren't just technical so it back fired a bit. And it backfired on Louise. I'm not sure what I'd have picked instead, I can't remember the others but there must have been loads of other dances where her confidence held her back.

I didn't want her to win and considered her the weakest dancer in the final but it does seem sad that Danny and Ore were given dances they loved and might easily have chosen as their favourite and Louise got a dance she was uncomfortable with.
EthanE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 01:02
thenetworkbabe
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 34,217
It was really odd, the judges choices.

With Danny they could have chosen any dance frankly and he had the potential for top marks, everyone knows he is the best dancer. They chose the QS, a dance that could have scored 40 first time around. Clearly they expected, as did the vast majority on here, that he would actually score 40.

With Ore they chose the dance that lots of folk loved the best and could easily have been the couples own choice and again would have scored far more highly if it had been danced later in the series, a bit like Jay's jive. Then they threw the cherry on the cake by bringing over Gene Kelly's widow!

With Louise they chose her lowest scoring dance. A dance she was clearly not comfortable with. A woman in her forties, with two kids, who would have been the oldest ever winner of Strictly, having to dance a pelvic movement dance like the Cha Cha in a leotard! Nowhere to hide, exposed.

How many celebs, even the very young, have ever had to dance in a leotard?

Clearly she was not happy as she referred to the leotard a number of times.

I just can't understand the equity of it.



Maggie
Thats because the dance choices help determine the outcome, and are made accordingly. Her outfit was terible, and what she needed to improve required physical changes in her that were impossible. hIps don't undo years of change in a few days training.

Its the same most weeks. Last week they had options on who got what remaining dances, and someone gets the more difficult to score with dance that tests their weakness, and someone gets a dynamic vote scoring one thats then hyped up. If they had changed it around, and marked both accurately, the scoreboard would have been drastucally changed
thenetworkbabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 01:20
-Sid-
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 28,896
What else was there tho? Her Foxtrot, VW and Jive were immemorable, Halloween theme impractical, Rumba not distinct enough from Showdance, Paso and Waltz too high scoring to improve on. I'd have liked to have seen her AS again but it too had already scored a 10 from Bruno. So I can see why they went for the Flashdance number (and 80s obsessed me quite enjoyed it!).
-Sid- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 01:41
Maggie 55
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,492
What else was t here tho? Her Foxtrot, VW and Jive were immemorable, Rumba not distinct enough from Showdance,.
All those would have made more sense as a choice compared to decisions for other dancers that were being based on dances they were excellent in already.

Louise's Cha Cha Cha was over marked the first time round actually. I think they scored her additional marks for the fact she was clearly uncomfortable in being made to wear the leotard.. The dance itself was poor and the odds of there being such a huge improvement that would have given her a chance to achieve 40 was simply fantasy.

The other choices clearly gave the dancers a very good chance of getting top marks.



Maggie
Maggie 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 02:23
bu
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 29
I think they try to do the opposite 'genre' to the favourite pick. Trouble is no bugger knows whether or not the AT is supposed to be latin or ballroom, as it seemed to be counted as latin last week with Ore, I also think they try and avoid dances which scored ten as theoretically some/all judges think there's no room for improvement.

I tend to think of AT as a ballroom dance and the Charleston to be categorised as a latin due to being 'in hold' so going on the basis of that she had cha cha cha, jive, rumba, samba and charleston. Maybe the charleston might've kinder, but the CCC had the room for improvement, she was quite clearly not that energetic towards the end.

Although if you could pick ballroom, i think Viennese Waltz would be her best, and the fact that it's danced to Hallelujah wouldn't have hurt her either.
bu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 02:29
nagel84
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,467
Ore got the best possible choice he could have got, and Danny also came up trumps getting what many considered to be his best dance of the series. By contrast, intentionally or not, Louise was dealt a pretty poor hand.

Cha Chas are seldom great on Strictly and hers was no exception. She excels in ballroom, where her footwork and general technique come to the fore and can be appreciated. In particular, her Waltz really was quite sublime.

It would have been much better for her to have been given something like the VW to do again, albeit in a nicer dress. Either that or her American Smooth, which I think could have been a real crowd pleaser.
nagel84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 03:28
Maggie 55
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,492
I think they try to do the opposite 'genre' to the favourite pick. Trouble is no bugger knows whether or not the AT is supposed to be latin or ballroom, .
The Argentine Tango is a Latin dance. It is mainly an improvisation dance with no actual required basic step.

There are far more complicated steps available in the AT but unlike the ballroom Tango you have no actual requirement to produce an 8 count basic.


The judges knew that Louise would choose the AT and then chose another latin dance, even though that generally Louise strengths lay in the technical footwork and framing of ballroom.


Maggie
Maggie 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 03:54
RoseAnne
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lytham St Annes
Posts: 2,364
Ore got the best possible choice he could have got, and Danny also came up trumps getting what many considered to be his best dance of the series. By contrast, intentionally or not, Louise was dealt a pretty poor hand.

Cha Chas are seldom great on Strictly and hers was no exception. She excels in ballroom, where her footwork and general technique come to the fore and can be appreciated. In particular, her Waltz really was quite sublime.

It would have been much better for her to have been given something like the VW to do again, albeit in a nicer dress. Either that or her American Smooth, which I think could have been a real crowd pleaser.
This. I was really surprised at her getting the Cha Cha again and that flipping leotard. I felt sorry for her, she definitely got the worst choice.
RoseAnne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 05:12
Gillbm
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 154
It was really odd, the judges choices.

With Danny they could have chosen any dance frankly and he had the potential for top marks, everyone knows he is the best dancer. They chose the QS, a dance that could have scored 40 first time around. Clearly they expected, as did the vast majority on here, that he would actually score 40.

With Ore they chose the dance that lots of folk loved the best and could easily have been the couples own choice and again would have scored far more highly if it had been danced later in the series, a bit like Jay's jive. Then they threw the cherry on the cake by bringing over Gene Kelly's widow!

With Louise they chose her lowest scoring dance. A dance she was clearly not comfortable with. A woman in her forties, with two kids, who would have been the oldest ever winner of Strictly, having to dance a pelvic movement dance like the Cha Cha in a leotard! Nowhere to hide, exposed.

How many celebs, even the very young, have ever had to dance in a leotard?

Clearly she was not happy as she referred to the leotard a number of times.

I just can't understand the equity of it.



Maggie
I was disappointed when I saw her in the leotard and realised she would be doing one of her worst dances. There were any number of her other dances that were better and more befitting of a final. Soz but the dance to Amy Winehouse or the Bassey number were great dances. Had she performed either of those I think she would have won. However, TBH I wasn't over-awed with any of the show dances and feel Louise's didn't show her at her best, in terms of her good v OK only, techniques. Ore, overall deserved the win in the end. The general public do tend to get it right in the end.
Gillbm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 05:38
Olivia_P
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 324
I agree.

It was an awful dance. I felt sorry for her.
I was Louise's fan, and I think she should have been second after Danny. Obviously, everything was done to clear the way to a future winner who should not have been in the final at all had the semifinal been judged fairly.
Olivia_P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 05:46
Mrs Spratt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 2,455
I found Louise a bit dull for the most part, but I really did enjoy her Charleston and even watched it again in the week. That was the first time she looked as if she was enjoying herself to me.

The costume for Flashdance clearly mortified her, I think she showed willing by wearing it once but making her wear it again in the final wasn't helpful. For some reason it made her thighs look chubby - I'm sure they're not.
Mrs Spratt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 06:44
Tissy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Pembrokeshire.
Posts: 40,686
Didn't Louise win the Cha Cha group challenge?

Perhaps the judges thought this was her chance to show how much she had improved.
Tissy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-12-2016, 06:58
Jennifer_F
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,523
I felt very sorry for Louise when I saw her having to dance the CCC again - not an especially good dance for her, and dressed in a leotard -when both Ore and Danny were given dances that they excelled in first time around. They also had the glamour of great costuming and good music etc where she had none of that. I felt uncomfortable for her.
Jennifer_F is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:21.