Originally Posted by annette kurten:
“i smoked for decades, you`re deluded.”
“i smoked for decades, you`re deluded.”
The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.
Campaign To STOP Smoking Whilst Trying To Drive
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The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.”
“The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.”
it`s the notion that it isn`t distracting rather than accident statistics.
What about non smoking crashes ? Trying to concentrate, in heavy traffic, all the time ''dying for a fag'' .........
Originally Posted by netcurtains:
“I said that back on page one, if you can't smoke and drive at the same time, you really shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. .”
“I said that back on page one, if you can't smoke and drive at the same time, you really shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. .”
Maybe it should be introduced as part of the driving test.
Originally Posted by ffawkes:
“Maybe it should be introduced as part of the driving test.”
“Maybe it should be introduced as part of the driving test.”
Funny you say that, years ago when I was taking driving lessons the instructor smoked like a chimney, I was a smoker then and always looked across in the hope he'd offer me one which he never did until the day we drove back from the test, he said that now I'd passed he'd let me have one and showed me how to light it, flick the ash out of the quarter window and also the correct way to throw it out of that window
Originally Posted by Union Jock:
“Funny you say that, years ago when I was taking driving lessons the instructor smoked like a chimney, I was a smoker then and always looked across in the hope he'd offer me one which he never did until the day we drove back from the test, he said that now I'd passed he'd let me have one and showed me how to light it, flick the ash out of the quarter window and also the correct way to throw it out of that window”
“Funny you say that, years ago when I was taking driving lessons the instructor smoked like a chimney, I was a smoker then and always looked across in the hope he'd offer me one which he never did until the day we drove back from the test, he said that now I'd passed he'd let me have one and showed me how to light it, flick the ash out of the quarter window and also the correct way to throw it out of that window
”
Just proves what I have said all along ie 99% of smoker, so-called have a window open at lower speeds and chuck out their trash on to the road/pavement or the public.
A friend of ours said that a fag end landed on her feet in her town as a van drove pst and the clown checked out his fag.
Originally Posted by David (2):
“Actually, no, most modern cars no longer have ashtrays or built in lighters.
......you usually have to pay extra for an optional smokers pack when buying a new car.
So in 99% of cases today, drivers who smoke have to not only smoke, but light up with a hand held lighter, as well as dispose of their ash etc out the window.
Just as dangerous as fiddling with a phone.”
“Actually, no, most modern cars no longer have ashtrays or built in lighters.
......you usually have to pay extra for an optional smokers pack when buying a new car.
So in 99% of cases today, drivers who smoke have to not only smoke, but light up with a hand held lighter, as well as dispose of their ash etc out the window.
Just as dangerous as fiddling with a phone.”
Excellent summary of the facts.
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Just proves what I have said all along ie 99% of smoker, so-called have a window open at lower speeds and chuck out their trash on to the road/pavement or the public.”
“Just proves what I have said all along ie 99% of smoker, so-called have a window open at lower speeds and chuck out their trash on to the road/pavement or the public.”
That is no proof whatsoever.
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“A friend of ours said that a fag end landed on her feet in her town as a van drove pst and the clown checked out his fag.”
“A friend of ours said that a fag end landed on her feet in her town as a van drove pst and the clown checked out his fag.
”
A friend of mine was there and said that didn't happen.
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“Just proves what I have said all along ie 99% of smoker, so-called have a window open at lower speeds and chuck out their trash on to the road/pavement or the public.
A friend of ours said that a fag end landed on her feet in her town as a van drove pst and the clown checked out his fag.”
“Just proves what I have said all along ie 99% of smoker, so-called have a window open at lower speeds and chuck out their trash on to the road/pavement or the public.
A friend of ours said that a fag end landed on her feet in her town as a van drove pst and the clown checked out his fag.
”
You have proved nothing, LOL I can prove you can still buy car cigarette lighters and car ashtrays
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.”
“The risk is non-zero, but it is very, very low. Perhaps only 1 or 2 Fatal, Smoking-related Crashes per year in the UK.”
Roll ups would go out if not puffed so even less risk of fire.
Trying to hold a Big Mac together & eat it while driving would be far more difficult to concentrate on the road, as would having a row with a passenger or over the phone.
Maybe a campaign should be started to ban drive in food places too...
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“What about non smoking crashes ?”
“What about non smoking crashes ?”
Screaming babies/kids arguing in the back seats? They are far more of a distraction than a fag.
I imagine smoking a cig whilst driving is easy, seeing as I can do the following whilst behind the wheel:-
Drink a coffee
Shave
Tie my shoelace (using the cruise control to maintain speed)
Drink a coffee
Shave
Tie my shoelace (using the cruise control to maintain speed)
Originally Posted by coughthecat:
“It's like having sweet_princess back!”
“It's like having sweet_princess back!
”
Some say that MH370 was brought down when the pilot chucked a fag-end out and it caught in a fuel inlet valve.
Originally Posted by eggchen:
“I imagine smoking a cig whilst driving is easy, seeing as I can do the following whilst behind the wheel:-
Drink a coffee
Shave
Tie my shoelace (using the cruise control to maintain speed)”
“I imagine smoking a cig whilst driving is easy, seeing as I can do the following whilst behind the wheel:-
Drink a coffee
Shave
Tie my shoelace (using the cruise control to maintain speed)”
Well at least you are checking your mirrors.
It's so easy to see who the smokers/drivers litter louts are this thread.
The sad thing is these smokers are safely aware that no one is going to catch them, fine them and they will contiune to smoke behind the wheel putting at risk those around their car eg other drivers/passengers/perdestrians. Then they insist to keep the window ope to share their stench with others
Sadly, this moaning driving benid a naff bmw m3 look alike car, the clown had its window open, fag in one hand, slow moving in town and the stench got into my car by the time i pressed the off button on air vent, then i keep a goo 25 feet between this losers car and mine to rid of the smell. As expected, the clown threw out the fag end into the middle of the road and bounced off the side of another car. Again, I felt like picking the fag end up and shoving it up his ugly mush, but I have not got the courage or the strength to do that.
People will recall that using hand held mobiles were legal at one time now consider very dangerous, so only a matter of times before these idiots start getting fined.
If you see someone throwing out their fag end and have a camera in your car, send it to the police
The sad thing is these smokers are safely aware that no one is going to catch them, fine them and they will contiune to smoke behind the wheel putting at risk those around their car eg other drivers/passengers/perdestrians. Then they insist to keep the window ope to share their stench with others
Sadly, this moaning driving benid a naff bmw m3 look alike car, the clown had its window open, fag in one hand, slow moving in town and the stench got into my car by the time i pressed the off button on air vent, then i keep a goo 25 feet between this losers car and mine to rid of the smell. As expected, the clown threw out the fag end into the middle of the road and bounced off the side of another car. Again, I felt like picking the fag end up and shoving it up his ugly mush, but I have not got the courage or the strength to do that.
People will recall that using hand held mobiles were legal at one time now consider very dangerous, so only a matter of times before these idiots start getting fined.
If you see someone throwing out their fag end and have a camera in your car, send it to the police
Originally Posted by Richard46:
“Well at least you are checking your mirrors.”
“Well at least you are checking your mirrors.”
I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.
Originally Posted by JulesF:
“It's patently ridiculous to suggest that flicking ash out of a window, even lighting a fag, is anywhere near as fiddly and dangerous as messing about with a mobile phone, unless you have some serious co-ordination issues, in which case you should not be driving at all.”
“It's patently ridiculous to suggest that flicking ash out of a window, even lighting a fag, is anywhere near as fiddly and dangerous as messing about with a mobile phone, unless you have some serious co-ordination issues, in which case you should not be driving at all.”
The act of of lighting up, finding the bits, picking them up, lighting up, while steering, changing gear, indicating, keeping an eye on the road ahead, checking mirrors,.....nope, your not in full control or have 100% attention on driving (what's around you).
I saw that that the car in front of me on the way home was "all over the shop", in the gutter, on the white line, way under speed limit, couldn't drive in a straight line, my bet is he was lighting up or typing on his phone. Either way, very poor control. Might have been drunk!
Personsonally if I were elected to power I would ban drivers from smoking in my first 100 days, but I wouldn't ban smoking in open spaces, town centres etc.
Originally Posted by David (2):
“The act of of lighting up, finding the bits, picking them up, lighting up, while steering, changing gear, indicating, keeping an eye on the road ahead, checking mirrors,.....nope, your not in full control or have 100% attention on driving (what's around you).
I saw that that the car in front of me on the way home was "all over the shop", in the gutter, on the white line, way under speed limit, couldn't drive in a straight line, my bet is he was lighting up or typing on his phone. Either way, very poor control. Might have been drunk!
Personsonally if I were elected to power I would ban drivers from smoking in my first 100 days, but I wouldn't ban smoking in open spaces, town centres etc.”
“The act of of lighting up, finding the bits, picking them up, lighting up, while steering, changing gear, indicating, keeping an eye on the road ahead, checking mirrors,.....nope, your not in full control or have 100% attention on driving (what's around you).
I saw that that the car in front of me on the way home was "all over the shop", in the gutter, on the white line, way under speed limit, couldn't drive in a straight line, my bet is he was lighting up or typing on his phone. Either way, very poor control. Might have been drunk!
Personsonally if I were elected to power I would ban drivers from smoking in my first 100 days, but I wouldn't ban smoking in open spaces, town centres etc.”
Excellent post. May I add that if I was in number 10, I'd ban smoking in public places from immdiate effect.
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
Driving! You drive yet you want others banned for polluting the atmosphere to a far lesser extent?
I presume you only ever drive in the event of emergencies when alternatives are not available?
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“ If you see someone throwing out their fag end and have a camera in your car, send it to the police”
“ If you see someone throwing out their fag end and have a camera in your car, send it to the police”
Good idea. I'm sure the police will find a good home for the cameras.
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
As a person how no longer drives, and my transport is a mobility scooter i light up a fag as i go down the pavement as it drowns out the stench of the diesel and petrol fumes coming from cars, but its all part of life now you cannot beat the smell of a good cigar or someone smoking a pipe which is rare today.
Originally Posted by Jellied Eel:
“Good idea. I'm sure the police will find a good home for the cameras.”
“Good idea. I'm sure the police will find a good home for the cameras.”
Originally Posted by Princessxxxx:
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
“I get punished twice haviing to look at these clowns doing things like that as i have a suv sit high up and keep an eye on the mirrors
Driving behind smokers just the stench gives the game away.”
Well according to the AA smoking is a distraction, and according to the AA a driver involved in an accident where smoking is proved to be a contributory factor, could be charged with careless or dangerous driving
http://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/...ng-and-driving
Originally Posted by David (2):
“The act of of lighting up, finding the bits, picking them up, lighting up, while steering, changing gear, indicating, keeping an eye on the road ahead, checking mirrors,.....nope, your not in full control or have 100% attention on driving (what's around you).
I saw that that the car in front of me on the way home was "all over the shop", in the gutter, on the white line, way under speed limit, couldn't drive in a straight line, my bet is he was lighting up or typing on his phone. Either way, very poor control. Might have been drunk!
Personsonally if I were elected to power I would ban drivers from smoking in my first 100 days, but I wouldn't ban smoking in open spaces, town centres etc.”
“The act of of lighting up, finding the bits, picking them up, lighting up, while steering, changing gear, indicating, keeping an eye on the road ahead, checking mirrors,.....nope, your not in full control or have 100% attention on driving (what's around you).
I saw that that the car in front of me on the way home was "all over the shop", in the gutter, on the white line, way under speed limit, couldn't drive in a straight line, my bet is he was lighting up or typing on his phone. Either way, very poor control. Might have been drunk!
Personsonally if I were elected to power I would ban drivers from smoking in my first 100 days, but I wouldn't ban smoking in open spaces, town centres etc.”
I'm more worried that you're constantly on the look out for bad smokers whilst you're at the wheel. Maybe concentrate on your car for a little bit?
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