Trump's close aid Wibur who has made huge investments in Ireland in recent years has said Ireland should exploit Brexit and take business from the UK. He feels cities like Dublin and Frankfurt in europe are ideally positioned to poach such business from London.
What's going on in Ireland?
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Originally Posted by Paul_Culloty:
“Norwegian-style access, or a Swiss-style deal - we're probably the EU country that most wants you to receive a good deal, but it's hard to defend you if you won't even tell Dublin about your intentions?”
“Norwegian-style access, or a Swiss-style deal - we're probably the EU country that most wants you to receive a good deal, but it's hard to defend you if you won't even tell Dublin about your intentions?”
Why should we?
Originally Posted by ireland2day:
“Trump's close aid Wibur who has made huge investments in Ireland in recent years has said Ireland should exploit Brexit and take business from the UK. He feels cities like Dublin and Frankfurt in europe are ideally positioned to poach such business from London.”
“Trump's close aid Wibur who has made huge investments in Ireland in recent years has said Ireland should exploit Brexit and take business from the UK. He feels cities like Dublin and Frankfurt in europe are ideally positioned to poach such business from London.”
The company my daughter works for (in reinsurance and allied financial services) is Anglo-American. They've moved their head office to Dublin since June, and whilst their main business is done in New York and London, most new stuff from the EEA is going to go through Dublin.
Originally Posted by ireland2day:
“Trump's close aid Wibur who has made huge investments in Ireland in recent years has said Ireland should exploit Brexit and take business from the UK. He feels cities like Dublin and Frankfurt in europe are ideally positioned to poach such business from London.”
“Trump's close aid Wibur who has made huge investments in Ireland in recent years has said Ireland should exploit Brexit and take business from the UK. He feels cities like Dublin and Frankfurt in europe are ideally positioned to poach such business from London.”
That's it then. If he says so, all banks will shut next week and move to Dublin and Frankfurt. It's over for London.
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“Perhaps showing the uselessness of so many politicians so I'll say, again, the best solution is access to the single market.”
“Perhaps showing the uselessness of so many politicians so I'll say, again, the best solution is access to the single market.”
And I'll say again:
Originally Posted by andykn:
“The trouble is that the official Leave campaign stated "There is a free trade zone from Iceland to Turkey and the Russian border and we will be part of it", not "we will have access to it".”
“The trouble is that the official Leave campaign stated "There is a free trade zone from Iceland to Turkey and the Russian border and we will be part of it", not "we will have access to it".”
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Was vote leave in charge of government policy?”
“Was vote leave in charge of government policy?”
No, but it does represent what people voted for.
Originally Posted by andykn:
“No, but it does represent what people voted for.”
“No, but it does represent what people voted for.”
I know, but it's disengenous to use them as an example of policy if they don't set policy.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I know, but it's disengenous to use them as an example of policy if they don't set policy.”
“I know, but it's disengenous to use them as an example of policy if they don't set policy.”
Er, quoting from the official Leave campaign is just that, no more, no less. Why would you think they were an example of policy, especially when there's no sign at all that May's govt has a any clue what its policy is yet.
Originally Posted by andykn:
“Er, quoting from the official Leave campaign is just that, no more, no less. Why would you think they were an example of policy, especially when there's no sign at all that May's govt has a any clue what its policy is yet.”
“Er, quoting from the official Leave campaign is just that, no more, no less. Why would you think they were an example of policy, especially when there's no sign at all that May's govt has a any clue what its policy is yet.”
I am sure she does, but why would she want to share it with us until Article 50 is triggered? There is no reason to.
Originally Posted by andykn:
“And I'll say again:”
“And I'll say again:”
You are renowned for repeating the same thing over and over again. In fact it's probably the only thing for which you're renowned.
Now it's no good throwing stuff in peoples' faces that they didn't subscribe to. If you believed everything that was said during the referendum debate, then more fool you. But you didn't believe it, did you? It's just that you like to incessantly raise the dead in the hope it will come alive.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I am sure she does, but why would she want to share it with us until Article 50 is triggered? There is no reason to.”
“I am sure she does, but why would she want to share it with us until Article 50 is triggered? There is no reason to.”
No, it's not like business needs to plan or anything.
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“You are renowned for repeating the same thing over and over again. In fact it's probably the only thing for which you're renowned.
Now it's no good throwing stuff in peoples' faces that they didn't subscribe to.”
“You are renowned for repeating the same thing over and over again. In fact it's probably the only thing for which you're renowned.
Now it's no good throwing stuff in peoples' faces that they didn't subscribe to.”
You may have voted for something completely different but surely there were plenty of people reading that and thinking that's what they were voting for.
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“ If you believed everything that was said during the referendum debate, then more fool you. But you didn't believe it, did you? It's just that you like to incessantly raise the dead in the hope it will come alive.”
“ If you believed everything that was said during the referendum debate, then more fool you. But you didn't believe it, did you? It's just that you like to incessantly raise the dead in the hope it will come alive.
”
No, I didn't believe the leave stuff, but I didn't vote for it.
[quote=andykn;84974490]You may have voted for something completely different but surely there were plenty of people reading that and thinking that's what they were voting for.
But you're guessing, aren't you?
No, I didn't believe the leave stuff, but I didn't vote for it.
But did you believe all the shyte the Remnants spouted?
But you're guessing, aren't you?
No, I didn't believe the leave stuff, but I didn't vote for it.
But did you believe all the shyte the Remnants spouted?
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“But you're guessing, aren't you?”
“But you're guessing, aren't you?”
Yep, but it would be odd to guess they were all not voting for what was in the official Leave leaflet.
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“But did you believe all the shyte the Remnants spouted?
”
“But did you believe all the shyte the Remnants spouted?
”
Well, I believed the bit about the currency dropping, the bit about inflation rising.
Was there any other bits you had in mind.
It would help your credibility no end if you could avoid quoting things leavers said.
Originally Posted by andykn:
“Yep, but it would be odd to guess they were all not voting for what was in the official Leave leaflet.
Well, I believed the bit about the currency dropping, the bit about inflation rising.
Was there any other bits you had in mind.
It would help your credibility no end if you could avoid quoting things leavers said.”
“Yep, but it would be odd to guess they were all not voting for what was in the official Leave leaflet.
Well, I believed the bit about the currency dropping, the bit about inflation rising.
Was there any other bits you had in mind.
It would help your credibility no end if you could avoid quoting things leavers said.”
Skirting round the issue again and you really should be looking at your own credibility. Right now I'm getting off the roundabout.
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“Skirting round the issue again and you really should be looking at your own credibility. Right now I'm getting off the roundabout.”
“Skirting round the issue again and you really should be looking at your own credibility. Right now I'm getting off the roundabout.”
I think Andy, Aurichie, Tahiti Et Al think that the more they ignore something the more it doesn't exist. They live in a we're not leaving, we're having a second referendum bubble. Perhaps one day they'll come down from it.
Originally Posted by allaorta:
“Skirting round the issue again and you really should be looking at your own credibility. Right now I'm getting off the roundabout.”
“Skirting round the issue again and you really should be looking at your own credibility. Right now I'm getting off the roundabout.”
Yeah, right, I address two specifics, you run and hide when challenged. plus ca change; another hurdle you couldn't overcome.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I think Andy, Aurichie, Tahiti Et Al think that the more they ignore something the more it doesn't exist. They live in a we're not leaving, we're having a second referendum bubble. Perhaps one day they'll come down from it.”
“I think Andy, Aurichie, Tahiti Et Al think that the more they ignore something the more it doesn't exist. They live in a we're not leaving, we're having a second referendum bubble. Perhaps one day they'll come down from it.”
??
Posting about it daily is ignoring it now in Brexitland, eh?
Just because I point out that the official Leave leaflet is somewhat at odds with the more extreme Brexiters doesn't mean I have any more of a clue than May and her hapless band what will eventually happen.
Originally Posted by Miasima Goria:
“More Brexit delusion re Ireland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38421769
He highlighted agricultural reform and a developing relationship with the Republic of Ireland as areas where the UK could be positive. After Brexit, the Irish border will be the only EU-UK land border.
"I think the challenges we face mean it's not a bed of roses, no one should pretend that, but equally it is not the end of the world and there are some real opportunities that arise from the fact of Brexit we might take," he said in an interview with Radio 4's Today programme
It's all a bit 'Croppy lie down', isn't it? Brexit could inflict a lot of damage on the Irish economy yet is expected to just do as it is told by the UK. The relationship with RoI is deteriorating, not developing.
I guess Ireland is viewed as just another ex-colony to exploit?”
“More Brexit delusion re Ireland:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38421769
He highlighted agricultural reform and a developing relationship with the Republic of Ireland as areas where the UK could be positive. After Brexit, the Irish border will be the only EU-UK land border.
"I think the challenges we face mean it's not a bed of roses, no one should pretend that, but equally it is not the end of the world and there are some real opportunities that arise from the fact of Brexit we might take," he said in an interview with Radio 4's Today programme
It's all a bit 'Croppy lie down', isn't it? Brexit could inflict a lot of damage on the Irish economy yet is expected to just do as it is told by the UK. The relationship with RoI is deteriorating, not developing.
I guess Ireland is viewed as just another ex-colony to exploit?”
The simple fact is this, the UK should do what is best for their economy not Ireland's. ROI chose the EU so why should the UK think of them?
Originally Posted by Wolfman13:
“The simple fact is this, the UK should do what is best for their economy not Ireland's. ROI chose the EU so why should the UK think of them?”
“The simple fact is this, the UK should do what is best for their economy not Ireland's. ROI chose the EU so why should the UK think of them?”
I am sure if the situation was reversed they wouldn't give a four x. It's really funny reading the comments on here from our Irish friends with their faux indignation that the U.K. Might possibly be doing what's best for them.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I am sure if the situation was reversed they wouldn't give a four x. It's really funny reading the comments on here from our Irish friends with their faux indignation that the U.K. Might possibly be doing what's best for them.”
“I am sure if the situation was reversed they wouldn't give a four x. It's really funny reading the comments on here from our Irish friends with their faux indignation that the U.K. Might possibly be doing what's best for them.”
Exactly the Irish seem to think we owe them something. No doubt we'll get get the usual 800 year old BS.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“I am sure if the situation was reversed they wouldn't give a four x. It's really funny reading the comments on here from our Irish friends with their faux indignation that the U.K. Might possibly be doing what's best for them.”
“I am sure if the situation was reversed they wouldn't give a four x. It's really funny reading the comments on here from our Irish friends with their faux indignation that the U.K. Might possibly be doing what's best for them.”
No, it's that the UK is not only doing something that's bad for the UK economically but bad for Ireland economically too.
Originally Posted by andykn:
“No, it's that the UK is not only doing something that's bad for the UK economically but bad for Ireland economically too.”
“No, it's that the UK is not only doing something that's bad for the UK economically but bad for Ireland economically too.”
Is Ireland part of the U.K.?
Staying in the world's only economically declining trading block is bad for the U.K.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Is Ireland part of the U.K.? ”
“Is Ireland part of the U.K.?
”
Roll eyes indeed. I did not say or imply that Ireland was part of the UK, you are just again demonstrating why referenda are a bad idea.
Quote:
“Staying in the world's only economically declining trading block is bad for the U.K.”
“Staying in the world's only economically declining trading block is bad for the U.K.”
The EU is not economically declining, it's growing and we'll still be part of Europe anyway, we're not leaving that.
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