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Benefit Fraud Enquiry
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Jedi_Knight
18-12-2016
If somebody who illegally has claimed benefits, decides to stop claiming them, will they still be prosecuted and/or sent to prison?


The benefits are:


Carer's Allowance.

Disability Living Allowance.

Employment and Support Allowance.
muggins14
18-12-2016
Only if they are found out!

ETA: Your post seems to imply that they have stopped claiming and so haven't been found out, or else the claims would have been stopped by the DWP when they started investigating the claimant, in which case they would proceed with their investigation and any further action and obviously the claims would have been stopped by them.
tim59
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight:
“If somebody who illegally has claimed benefits, decides to stop claiming them, will they still be prosecuted and/or sent to prison?


The benefits are:


Carer's Allowance.

Disability Living Allowance.

Employment and Support Allowance.”

Who decides, if a claim was illegal ? and what is an illegal claim
Union Jock
18-12-2016
If found out they'd more than likely be ordered to pay them back rather than imprisonment
TUTV Viewer
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight:
“If somebody who illegally has claimed benefits, decides to stop claiming them, will they still be prosecuted and/or sent to prison?


The benefits are:

Carer's Allowance.
Disability Living Allowance.
Employment and Support Allowance.”

It'll depend on a lot of factors.

For example, if you'd claimed the allowances for years, then the police found the body of the person you were supposed to be caring for under the patio - you would probably end up in prison, yes.
muggins14
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by TUTV Viewer:
“It'll depend on a lot of factors.

For example, if you'd claimed the allowances for years, then the police found the body of the person you were supposed to be caring for under the patio - you would probably end up in prison, yes.”

Damn, there go my plans
stoatie
18-12-2016
Am I going insane, or have we been here before?
Pitman
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by TUTV Viewer:
“It'll depend on a lot of factors.

For example, if you'd claimed the allowances for years, then the police found the body of the person you were supposed to be caring for under the patio - you would probably end up in prison, yes.”

not with our namby pamby criminal justice system, if anything you will be rewarded, Anna Friel has gone on to have a successful film career
Pink_Smurf
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight:
“If somebody who illegally has claimed benefits, decides to stop claiming them, will they still be prosecuted and/or sent to prison?


The benefits are:


Carer's Allowance.

Disability Living Allowance.

Employment and Support Allowance.”

I know of people who were a group of friends who all fraudulently claimed and were all prosecuted and sent to prison but it was years ago. I think it depends on whether it can be proved and for how long the claim continued for. If you're claiming in a fake name or for a dead person for example you will be in trouble.
muggins14
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“I know of people who were a group of friends who all fraudulently claimed and were all prosecuted and sent to prison but it was years ago. I think it depends on whether it can be proved and for how long the claim continued for. If you're claiming in a fake name or for a dead person for example you will be in trouble.”

Especially as you need a National Insurance number to claim anything and they would give information that a person is deceased or not
Pitman
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Especially as you need a National Insurance number to claim anything and they would give information that a person is deceased or not ”


it's advisable not to tell them they are dead in the first place if you have stuck them under the patio
hatpeg
18-12-2016
It depends on the amount of money that has been defrauded.
Under £10,000 is unlikely to be a prison sentence.

Usually they are requested to repay the money, and you sometimes see the silly agreements that they will pay £10 a month for the next 90 years!

Basically benefit fraud is the cheapest interest free loan you can get, but even if they have stopped claiming, if there is firm evidence action will be taken against them.
Resonance
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“not with our namby pamby criminal justice system, if anything you will be rewarded, Anna Friel has gone on to have a successful film career ”

Aye, but you don't see much of Sandra Maitland
Princessxxxx
18-12-2016
If they have aleardy stopped and were not yet contacted by the dwp, should be ok, end of.
If contacted and stopped, as long it;'s not 10's of thousands, the dwp will only be to glad to get a result.
muggins14
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“it's advisable not to tell them they are dead in the first place if you have stuck them under the patio ”

It's no fun that way though
razorback Tony
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“Who decides, if a claim was illegal ? and what is an illegal claim”


Just a wild stab in the dark here, but I guess that if you are able to look after yourself unaided, and you claim for a carer's allowance, that would constitute as illegal.
tim59
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by razorback Tony:
“Just a wild stab in the dark here, but I guess that if you are able to look after yourself unaided, and you claim for a carer's allowance, that would constitute as illegal.”

The person doing the caring claims carer's allowance, not the person needing the care
Trulytrue
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“The person doing the caring claims carer's allowance, not the person needing the care”

Either can claim.
TerraCanis
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“Aye, but you don't see much of Sandra Maitland ”

Or Bryan Murray...
WhatJoeThinks
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Trulytrue:
“Either can claim.”

Your original point is still moot. The carer is always necessarily able-bodied.
Trulytrue
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Your original point is still moot. The carer is always necessarily able-bodied.”

What? My point is moot? My post has no point .. Either can claim. A carer or the disabled person can claim it.
annette kurten
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Your original point is still moot. The carer is always necessarily able-bodied.”

i don`t know, i got half way through a benefits calculator out of curiosity and the drop downs include whether you`re disabled yourself and which disability benefits you`re claiming.

if i regain the will to live i`ll finish it off and see what the score is.
Scots rool
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by stoatie:
“Am I going insane, or have we been here before?”

No you're not going insane.........the last time it was something to do with occupancy in a house & who could evict people (or not).
Apparently it was a court case, however the outcome was never disclosed.
Tiger Rag
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Trulytrue:
“Either can claim.”

You can't claimc arers allowance for looking after yourself. You can only claim for looking after a person.
JackKlugman
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by tim59:
“Who decides, if a claim was illegal ? and what is an illegal claim”

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