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Old 18-12-2016, 10:48
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Total shameful scam. A slap in Oti's face. I am disgusted by this.
They did not allow Artem to win the second time and were against Aliona; however, Jay's unprecedented popularity and Aliona's insider's experience, as well as her husband's status, prevented them from manipulating the votes, no matter how hard they tried.
This year it was a BBC employee AND a Clifton who were slated to win, and every shameful effort was put into it: turning a blind eye to Ore's stumbles and awarding him 10s while punishing the best dancer for non-existing mistakes; trying to pit Claudia's fans against Danny's supporters (it worked in the past with Matt's and Gethin's voters); bigging up Joanne and her plagiarized choreography, etc. etc.
When nothing works, there is a last resort: "technical problems" conveniently orchestrated around the semifinal and the final time.
I called this game a month ago noting that BBC was killing two birds (three birds, actually) with one throw: stop the racism accusations, reward their employee, and give a farewell gift to Len by awarding a Clifton with the 2016 Mirror Ball. The former SCD professionals predicted this outcome, too.
Disgusting. The only consolation is the the head puppet master is retiring, and since I stopped watching DWTS some time ago I will never hear his sophomoric "jokes" again.
Girl needs to step away from the keyboard and go outside for some fresh air, it will do you good...
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Old 18-12-2016, 10:54
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If you want some free toys to give to children this Christmas, go out and collect up all of those which have been thrown out of prams over this result.

Ore was the best on the night and rightly got more votes than the others. Simple as that.
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Old 18-12-2016, 10:56
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It's certainly a disturbed rant from Olivia P. Toys and prams sums it up.
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Old 18-12-2016, 11:12
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I always thought danny would win final I think he hasn't performed that well last couple of weeks maybe nerves setting in. On the night Ore performed better and so deserved the win. I admit I wasn't fussed as I wanted claudia in the final. I actually voted ore so I imagine many did.
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Old 18-12-2016, 11:33
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I still have no idea who Danny Mac is and I am not fussed. I know who Ore is, as he grew up in my locality and I knew who Louise is, as her in-laws live just a few miles away..

Honestly, on the night, Ore put in the better performance overall.

The problem with the internet these days, are there are too many keyboard warriors, who reckon they know more than professionals.
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:09
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The rant in Post #2 is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a forum. AND I'VE READ MY OWN DRUNK COMMENTS!
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:26
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The rant in Post #2 is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a forum. AND I'VE READ MY OWN DRUNK COMMENTS!
LOL

TBH I'm kinda disappointed. I assumed Danny would win, and fair enough that would have been OK.... and yet I'll admit that a part of me hoped that there would be an surprise like this because I thought that the upset and conspiracy theories would liven the place up a bit. But it's all still a bit flat. Yeah there are the 'it's all a fix', the 'the votes are wrong' and my fave 'the producers manipulate it all' but still, the real batsh*t craziness of past years has failed to materialise.


If it's 'proof' of anything it's that DS is out of touch with general opinion and that casual viewers, who see Strictly as just a bit of Saturday night fluff entertainment, are the real influence on the end result. And all power to them.
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:33
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LOL

TBH I'm kinda disappointed. I assumed Danny would win, and fair enough that would have been OK.... and yet I'll admit that a part of me hoped that there would be an surprise like this because I thought that the upset and conspiracy theories would liven the place up a bit. But it's all still a bit flat. Yeah there are the 'it's all a fix', the 'the votes are wrong' and my fave 'the producers manipulate it all' but still, the real batsh*t craziness of past years has failed to materialise.


If it's 'proof' of anything it's that DS is out of touch with general opinion and that casual viewers, who see Strictly as just a bit of Saturday night fluff entertainment, are the real influence on the end result. And all power to them.
Exactly and add social media to the list

There was 35% of the voting public who had no idea who they would vote for before the final. It looks like Ore picked a lot of floating voters last night & hence why he won
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:41
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I'm a casual viewer and was out last night so caught up this morning.
In my opinion, Ore was the best performer last night and if I'd have voted, it would have been for him.

Some of the dummy spitting on here and the DM comments must be trolling surely otherwise they're rather disturbing
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:04
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I'm a casual viewer and was out last night so caught up this morning.
In my opinion, Ore was the best performer last night and if I'd have voted, it would have been for him.

Some of the dummy spitting on here and the DM comments must be trolling surely otherwise they're rather disturbing
But don't you know it's got to be a BBC conspiracy???

Seriously, there was a bit of manipulation going on, but those alleging something more nefarious have forgotten about the floating voters.
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:04
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Plain and simple, Ore, and Joanne with her amazing choreography pulled it out of the bag in the final, and although I voted Danny because I loved that Samba alone. Ore was a very worthy winner. Ore and Joanne won fair and square and no amount of shouts of fix or whatever thankfully will change that fact. Congrats to the finalists and especially to Ore and Joanne for being superb when it mattered most.
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:21
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I wonder if this senseless yawping will ever stop?

It's
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:36
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I wonder if this senseless yawping will ever stop?

It's

I wasn't sure what yawping meant and like the sound of it. After looking it up-yep it fits the reaction to the result well.

Hey, I learnt another new thing from the forum today.
I love DS.
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:45
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I wasn't sure what yawping meant and like the sound of it. After looking it up-yep it fits the reaction to the result well.

Hey, I learnt another new thing from the forum today.
I love DS.
Heck! I didn't realise yawping was't universal.
(Born in the Black Country, where the accent itself is a kind of specialised yawping )
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:47
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I wasn't sure what yawping meant and like the sound of it. After looking it up-yep it fits the reaction to the result well.

Hey, I learnt another new thing from the forum today.
I love DS.
Here's another new one for you.

'windae-hingin'

http://www.firstfoot.com/dictionary/w.html

(btw for anyone interested that link has some hilarious words and definitions. My favourite one is Wreck the Hoose Juice. )
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Old 18-12-2016, 14:29
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Here's another new one for you.

'windae-hingin'

http://www.firstfoot.com/dictionary/w.html

(btw for anyone interested that link has some hilarious words and definitions. My favourite one is Wreck the Hoose Juice. )
My Mums Scottish, I've read The Broons so I've heard a fair few of them in my time, but I love most of them. I've worked in Wolverhampton and Birmingham some years ago and again loved the lingo (and the lovely friendly people) but it was only for a few months.

Anyway this thread is treading dangerously close to the Jay 'baby kicking' debacle so...yeah Danny was in the dance off too and perhaps it knocked his confidence? Anyway. don't despair Danny fans, Danny has raised his profile and will do spectacularly well out of his stint on Strictly. Plus, I've always thought that it doesn't matter who wins anyway, so long as your fave gets to the final. So give Ore his due for his victory.
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Old 18-12-2016, 14:50
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I still have no idea who Danny Mac is and I am not fussed. I know who Ore is, as he grew up in my locality and I knew who Louise is, as her in-laws live just a few miles away..

Honestly, on the night, Ore put in the better performance overall.

The problem with the internet these days, are there are too many keyboard warriors, who reckon they know more than professionals.
Do you have to know who Danny is, I had never heard of Ore but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion
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Old 18-12-2016, 14:58
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3 times so was unpopular with the public, and then he wins hmmm.... I refuse to believe he topped the votes, it is a scam, release the voting figures so we can see the evidence
They kept saying this - judges's voting and opinions were only for guidance, it's the single viewing vote that decides.
So how the hell can this be a scam?

Are you saying that modern technology cannot count up votes?
Are you saying that the voting scrutineers are all away in the Bahamas on BBC expenses rather than verifying the votes?

Grow up! As always, it's not the best dancer who wins, it's the person the public want to win - and the judges are often wrong footed - ever since series 2
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:39
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I think they manipulated the vote for a Clifton win, now we've had one we may hope to see them get duffers if they remain next year
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:44
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Louise was the only contestant not to be in a dance off OP, so are you saying that she should have won? Or are you just using this to attack Ore choosing to forget that your personal favourite was in a dance-off just last week.
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:59
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& Danny was in the bottom two last week, does that mean the reason why he didn't win is because he wasn't popular ?

Ore won because he pulled off the best performances of the night.
I didn't see any mistakes by Ore personally, but a few FMs are screaming out there were, so with that, Danny made a few of mistakes in his first dance & one of them were too obvious to ignore.

Plain and simple, Ore performed the best on the night & was voted by the majority of the viewing public as their Strictly Champion of 2016
but he didnt have the best performance to get through the semi final, yet he topped the leader board Claudia was robbed by that marking in tthe semi

bit of jiggling by the judges to get him to the final where to be honest he could not lose by having two showdances that TPTB know people vote for whether bad or good (Gene Kellys wife being there would have helped) and a strictly fan favorite the jive
yes he won on the night but he was given a very big hand to get there
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Old 18-12-2016, 16:07
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Total shameful scam. A slap in Oti's face. I am disgusted by this.
They did not allow Artem to win the second time and were against Aliona; however, Jay's unprecedented popularity and Aliona's insider's experience, as well as her husband's status, prevented them from manipulating the votes, no matter how hard they tried.
This year it was a BBC employee AND a Clifton who were slated to win, and every shameful effort was put into it: turning a blind eye to Ore's stumbles and awarding him 10s while punishing the best dancer for non-existing mistakes; trying to pit Claudia's fans against Danny's supporters (it worked in the past with Matt's and Gethin's voters); bigging up Joanne and her plagiarized choreography, etc. etc.
When nothing works, there is a last resort: "technical problems" conveniently orchestrated around the semifinal and the final time.
I called this game a month ago noting that BBC was killing two birds (three birds, actually) with one throw: stop the racism accusations, reward their employee, and give a farewell gift to Len by awarding a Clifton with the 2016 Mirror Ball. The former SCD professionals predicted this outcome, too.
Disgusting. The only consolation is the the head puppet master is retiring, and since I stopped watching DWTS some time ago I will never hear his sophomoric "jokes" again.
Is this a real person? Because if it is, I'm glad I don't know her. The worst sort of loser. Oti was excellent, no doubt about that, but all that matters is that in the final Ore completely outshone the others, end of story. So he won. Grow up and accept it without all this cynical nonsense and nastiness.
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Old 18-12-2016, 16:10
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3 times so was unpopular with the public, and then he wins hmmm.... I refuse to believe he topped the votes, it is a scam, release the voting figures so we can see the evidence
And Danny in the bottom two last week?

And three million more viewers last night, for the final, and many of them would have voted fir the first time.

And the online vote was doubled from three to six.

Then there are floating voters.

You can believe what you want, but this was a fair and open vote and independently verified.

Most of this series I voted for a different person each week, I had no favourite.

You state Ore was unpopular but that is an assumption, Caluida was very popular but was in the bottom two, the voting goes by

Your favourite
Who you think is at risk.
Who makes you laugh.
Tactical voting.
Who danced best on the night.
Who the judges thought were good.
Who you think the judges were unfair to.
You switch votes when your prior favourites are voted off.

In fact so many reasons you can't say there is a typical voting pattern every week.
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Old 18-12-2016, 16:13
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And Danny in the bottom two last week?

And three million more viewers last night, for the final, and many of them would have voted fir the first time.

Then there are floating voters.

You can believe what you want, but this was a fair and open vote and independently verified.
Absolutely. It's difficult to comprehend some of the posts placed by one or two on this thread. Just glad most of us are different.
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Old 18-12-2016, 16:16
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Absolutely. It's difficult to comprehend some of the posts placed by one or two on this thread. Just glad most of us are different.
Agree.
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