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Louise was the only finalist who had never been in the bottom two - would the OP have been happy for her to have won based on her performance last night? That is how it works, right? YOu land in the bottom 2 once and you're disqualified from winning? That's why no winners in the past have ever been in the danceoff? You know, except all those winners who have.
If Ore wasn't popular, he would've been gone - people can cry and yell and stomp their feet and whine about it being unfair all they want, but the public put him through last week - it would've been very easy for him to have still been in the DO despite being top of the leaderboard, esp with the tie on the scoreboard but he sailed through. Last night it was just the public and he won...get over it, when it counted, the public backed him. |
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If you want some free toys to give to children this Christmas, go out and collect up all of those which have been thrown out of prams over this result.
Ore was the best on the night and rightly got more votes than the others. Simple as that. |
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My Mums Scottish, I've read The Broons so I've heard a fair few of them in my time, but I love most of them. I've worked in Wolverhampton and Birmingham some years ago and again loved the lingo (and the lovely friendly people) but it was only for a few months.
Anyway this thread is treading dangerously close to the Jay 'baby kicking' debacle so...yeah Danny was in the dance off too and perhaps it knocked his confidence? Anyway. don't despair Danny fans, Danny has raised his profile and will do spectacularly well out of his stint on Strictly. Plus, I've always thought that it doesn't matter who wins anyway, so long as your fave gets to the final. So give Ore his due for his victory. The 'best' person doesn't always win and in the great grand scheme of things it matters little.
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And Danny in the bottom two last week?
And three million more viewers last night, for the final, and many of them would have voted fir the first time. And the online vote was doubled from three to six. Then there are floating voters. You can believe what you want, but this was a fair and open vote and independently verified. Most of this series I voted for a different person each week, I had no favourite. You state Ore was unpopular but that is an assumption, Caluida was very popular but was in the bottom two, the voting goes by Your favourite Who you think is at risk. Who makes you laugh. Tactical voting. Who danced best on the night. Who the judges thought were good. Who you think the judges were unfair to. You switch votes when your prior favourites are voted off. In fact so many reasons you can't say there is a typical voting pattern every week. I think it's a shame for Danny who probably danced best overall all series but Ore has done the best he could in some cases against the truly horrific music choices so I don't think it's a conspiracy he won. It is amusing in a year marred by racism rows we're arguing a pro of colour was robbed by a celeb of colour. |
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You won't give up on this Ore bashing will you?
Ore was the best on the night and deserved to win. I voted for Ore and hadn't on previous weeks so I assume so did many others. The BBC can't afford to fix the vote. |
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3 times so was unpopular with the public, and then he wins hmmm.... I refuse to believe he topped the votes, it is a scam, release the voting figures so we can see the evidence
He's not the first winner to have been in the dance-off, he won't be the last. What clearly matters is the performance on the night, and I don't think many people would deny that Ore blew the others out of the water last night. More people voted for Ore than the others, so he won, end of story. If you can't accept that then I think it's very sad, and frankly people should have better things to do than come up with conspiracy theories that have absolutely no evidence whatsoever. The fact that a lot of people clearly fixate on that so much is more a reflection on them than anything else... |
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Exactly. Ore was the best on the night.
Some admit it, some have to invent ludicrous theories to deny it. |
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Sadly not, same persons just posted in another thread about the time they were abducted by aliens
I have to say, though, I have found the most recent slew of posts alleging 'fix' and that Kevin has to be 'sacked' etc absolutely hysterical. It's like DS itself has been invaded by aliens. .... alien children throwing massive strops ..... 😀😀 |
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And Danny in the bottom two last week?
And three million more viewers last night, for the final, and many of them would have voted fir the first time. And the online vote was doubled from three to six. Then there are floating voters. You can believe what you want, but this was a fair and open vote and independently verified. Most of this series I voted for a different person each week, I had no favourite. You state Ore was unpopular but that is an assumption, Caluida was very popular but was in the bottom two, the voting goes by Your favourite Who you think is at risk. Who makes you laugh. Tactical voting. Who danced best on the night. Who the judges thought were good. Who you think the judges were unfair to. You switch votes when your prior favourites are voted off. In fact so many reasons you can't say there is a typical voting pattern every week. Oh except that you forgot to mention that some, shocking as it may seem, also vote for who they fancy. I pretty much always vote on that criteria as long as the dancing is reasonable- I'm kinda shallow like that ![]() ![]() That said, I also vote properly on talent and entertainment value but I don't often vote and I haven't fancied anyone in the show since...oh well anyway.. I didn't vote this year. But again, if I'd been forced to in the final-it would have been for Ore. |
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You won't give up on this Ore bashing will you?
Ore was the best on the night and deserved to win. I voted for Ore and hadn't on previous weeks so I assume so did many others. The BBC can't afford to fix the vote.
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3 times so was unpopular with the public, and then he wins hmmm.... I refuse to believe he topped the votes, it is a scam, release the voting figures so we can see the evidence
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. |
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Just check the youtube popularity on Strictly's own channel. Nobody tops Danny or is ever close to him.
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. |
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It's a question of who deserves to win isn't it - best in the final or best other the series and it's one without an easy answer - last year the gong got given to the one who'd been best all series probably and this year to the one who'd performed best on the night - neither is necessarily right or wrong.
Would you decide the winner of Wimbledon or the FA Cup based on the whole season or on the final game? Same principle applies to Strictly and Ore was best in the final dance off. |
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Just check the youtube popularity on Strictly's own channel. Nobody tops Danny or is ever close to him.
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. |
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Just check the youtube popularity on Strictly's own channel. Nobody tops Danny or is ever close to him.
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. |
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Just check the youtube popularity on Strictly's own channel. Nobody tops Danny or is ever close to him.
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. Youtube is not an indicator of how popular someone is, chances are his supporters watch his dances over and over again. his showdance may have 51,870 views but he has only 872 likes Also there was 35% voters who hadn't decided who to vote for in the finals, all these floating voters were up for grabs. Majority most prob never voted before in this series and only votes in the final. I guess Ore manage to get a lot of those votes to win. Oti's choreography is usually good, but I really believe she misjudged the audience taste. Contemporary dance is like marmite, I personally don't enjoy it. |
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Not everyone out of the millions who watch the show watches the Youtube videos, so that's no indication of the appreciation of viewers.
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Total shameful scam. A slap in Oti's face. I am disgusted by this.
They did not allow Artem to win the second time and were against Aliona; however, Jay's unprecedented popularity and Aliona's insider's experience, as well as her husband's status, prevented them from manipulating the votes, no matter how hard they tried. This year it was a BBC employee AND a Clifton who were slated to win, and every shameful effort was put into it: turning a blind eye to Ore's stumbles and awarding him 10s while punishing the best dancer for non-existing mistakes; trying to pit Claudia's fans against Danny's supporters (it worked in the past with Matt's and Gethin's voters); bigging up Joanne and her plagiarized choreography, etc. etc. When nothing works, there is a last resort: "technical problems" conveniently orchestrated around the semifinal and the final time. I called this game a month ago noting that BBC was killing two birds (three birds, actually) with one throw: stop the racism accusations, reward their employee, and give a farewell gift to Len by awarding a Clifton with the 2016 Mirror Ball. The former SCD professionals predicted this outcome, too. Disgusting. The only consolation is the the head puppet master is retiring, and since I stopped watching DWTS some time ago I will never hear his sophomoric "jokes" again. As if the beeb could be bothered , or would take a chance, dicking around with the results in this age of whistle blowers queueing up to out finagling and diddling in any industry . Ore won it fair and square , no cheating and no sniper on the grassy knoll . I didn't care who won to be honest , but I find it hilarious that the one genuinely inexperienced and untrained dancer nicked the trophy from under the noses of the two with dance history and dance experience under their belts .Even better that a Clifton was the winning pro . ![]() Well done Ore and Joanne . |
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Maybe Danny's fans got overconfident so didn't actually vote or maybe like a lot of times previously in other shows the internet favourite wasn't actually as popular as people believed. Not everybody who votes posts on forums, does online polls or watches youtube videos especially a show that regularly has over 10 million viewers.
I agree that Ore danced better on the night but whose showdance was better is a matter of personal taste. Is it possible that so many people changed their minds last minute? Probably, but it does raise some questions. I wasn't disappointed by Danny I thought they managed well with the stumble. Yes the youtube is not a very correct indicator but as most popularity statistics show Danny so far ahead, it is a little surprising. |
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I avoided reading this thread all day after seeing the first two posts, but I'm glad I came back on to it to find that the vast majority of posters had a far more rational and generous-spirited reaction to the final.
I'd gone into the final assuming I'd probably vote for Danny unless, as I stated elsewhere, Ore did a Tom Chambers and Danny did a Colin Jackson. In the end, Danny's showdance wasn't puppet-dance levels of cringe, but it definitely didn't have the feel-good factor of Ore's crowd-pleaser; and to me, Ore managed to convey more energy and joie-de-vivre than either of the other two, so I voted for him, slightly to my surprise. I felt pretty gutted for Danny&Oti, but in the end, Ore played a blinder when it mattered most with the voting. Them's the breaks. |
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Bib . Sheesh , you are over thinking things . It's just a silly dance and popularity show .
As if the beeb could be bothered , or would take a chance, dicking around with the results in this age of whistle blowers queueing up to out finagling and diddling in any industry . Ore won it fair and square , no cheating and no sniper on the grassy knoll . I didn't care who won to be honest , but I find it hilarious that the one genuinely inexperienced and untrained dancer nicked the trophy from under the noses of the two with dance history and dance experience under their belts .Even better that a Clifton was the winning pro . ![]() Well done Ore and Joanne . All right, so Ore got the most votes on the night, which is the criterium, even though hypothetically these votes could have come from less people. |
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Well this is the final, if you're a fan that's the moment to vote, right?
I agree that Ore danced better on the night but whose showdance was better is a matter of personal taste. Is it possible that so many people changed their minds last minute? Probably, but it does raise some questions. I wasn't disappointed by Danny I thought they managed well with the stumble. Yes the youtube is not a very correct indicator but as most popularity statistics show Danny so far ahead, it is a little surprising. |
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Just check the youtube popularity on Strictly's own channel. Nobody tops Danny or is ever close to him.
So I have no idea how exactly Ore could have won by popular vote. I've never voted for anyone in any series of Strictly. There is no correlation between views of YouTube and how people vote. |
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3 times so was unpopular with the public, and then he wins hmmm.... I refuse to believe he topped the votes, it is a scam, release the voting figures so we can see the evidence
Anyway, I do find it rather odd that two weeks after he was in the B2 he wins it.... Though that now-infamous semi final, with the loaded Ore votes putting him top (somehow) with the judges and the Claudia put downs at the same time massively helped his cause. |
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