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Old 21-12-2016, 14:08
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Could I just say that the incident the newspapers have picked up on this week, actually happened on December 4th, so it was hardly "news".

As I start work at 5 a.m. each day, I have Radio 4 on from 5.20 till 6 a.m. when the shop opens, I heard the broadcast and he wasn't slurring his words, he sounded as if he were in distress, either through bad news or feeling ill. It is very unfair for newspapers to dredge up old stale stories to impugn somebodies professionalism. The newscaster finished off the summary for him so no harm was done
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Old 21-12-2016, 15:14
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Could I just say that the incident the newspapers have picked up on this week, actually happened on December 4th, so it was hardly "news".

As I start work at 5 a.m. each day, I have Radio 4 on from 5.20 till 6 a.m. when the shop opens, I heard the broadcast and he wasn't slurring his words, he sounded as if he were in distress, either through bad news or feeling ill. It is very unfair for newspapers to dredge up old stale stories to impugn ksomebodies professionalism. The newscaster finished off the summary for him so no harm was done
I think people do enjoy the faux outrage of complaing about something they didn't see or hear. Most of them have probably never even listened to Radio 4 let alone the Shipping Forcast, I doubt if most knew how to find Radio 4 in the first place!
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Old 21-12-2016, 17:43
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He certainly has some very devoted fans, I think he could murder the Radio 4 newsreader and some here would excuse him.
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Old 21-12-2016, 17:58
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He certainly has some very devoted fans, I think he could murder the Radio 4 newsreader and some here would excuse him.

Or maybe they just are not bitter about a guy that was ill at work. Not sure how you arrive at 'devoted fans' because for some being ill at work isn't a heinous crime on par with murder. But of course you feel there is no excuse for being ill. Says more about you than a weather presenter being ill if truth be told. But there you go.
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Old 21-12-2016, 18:14
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He certainly has some very devoted fans, I think he could murder the Radio 4 newsreader and some here would excuse him.
Finding it ridiculous to condemn someone for being ill at work and making assumptions as to why he was ill, going as far as accusing him of putting peoples lives at risk and discussing his sexual preferences is not devoted fanship it is just common sense.
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Old 21-12-2016, 18:18
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It's certainly a kick in the Schafernakers, this.
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Old 21-12-2016, 18:24
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I refuse to read the Sxn so somebody will.have to tell me what it said
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Old 21-12-2016, 18:48
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I refuse to read the Sxn so somebody will.have to tell me what it said
Here's the story reported by the dear old Radio Times

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...live-broadcast
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:34
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Well, I can remember a year or two ago on London News when Schaffernacker decided there was no point giving us the weather in London tomorrow 'as it's the same as the last two days, so let's see whats happening in the rest of the world' So we had a tour of Australia, Japan, India, you name it- everywhere but LONDON Doubtless his fans on here will think that was hysterical.

And, it was only a few weeks ago on the late London weather at around 10.40, that he got tongue tied (as he often does when he tries to be clever) started giggling, and stumbled off screen leaving us staring at the map for a few seconds till we cut to the national weather.

Clearly he has enough fans he thinks he can get away with anything- and it seems like he's right.
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Old 21-12-2016, 21:54
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Well, I can remember a year or two ago on London News when Schaffernacker decided there was no point giving us the weather in London tomorrow 'as it's the same as the last two days, so let's see whats happening in the rest of the world' So we had a tour of Australia, Japan, India, you name it- everywhere but LONDON Doubtless his fans on here will think that was hysterical.
Do you think this was all off his own back by chance? He worked alone to get the projected maps ready? Nothing was run past producers?

And, it was only a few weeks ago on the late London weather at around 10.40, that he got tongue tied (as he often does when he tries to be clever) started giggling, and stumbled off screen leaving us staring at the map for a few seconds till we cut to the national weather.
Mein Gott!!!

Clearly he has enough fans he thinks he can get away with anything- and it seems like he's right.
Yes. Even murder I would suspect.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:02
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Do you think this was all off his own back by chance? He worked alone to get the projected maps ready? Nothing was run past producers

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I doubt it.

Weather person is responsible fr producing his/her graphics. Why would a producer feel the need to say 'What will you be doing at 6.55? They will just assume he's going to deliver the LONDON weather- until it's too late to do anything about it. Then he'd be off to do the News Channel forecasts for the rest of the evening (London often, but not always gets one of the national forecasters these days, as part of cost cutting)
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:20
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I doubt it.

Weather person is responsible fr producing his/her graphics. Why would a producer feel the need to say 'What will you be doing at 6.55? They will just assume he's going to deliver the LONDON weather- until it's too late to do anything about it. Then he'd be off to do the News Channel forecasts for the rest of the evening (London often, but not always gets one of the national forecasters these days, as part of cost cutting)
So he works completely alone and prepares with no one. He just turns up, sits at his own computer, does his own graphics and calls the shots as to whether he can ignore the weather because it's been the same for two days. He just decided on a whim and it was too late for anyone to stop him.

Aye. I can see that's what happend.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:27
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So he works completely alone and prepares with no one. He just turns up, sits at his own computer, does his own graphics and calls the shots as to whether he can ignore the weather because it's been the same for two days. He just decided on a whim to do it all off his own back and it was too late for anyone to stop him.

Aye. And that's what happend.
In a word

Yes.

The weather presenters prepare their own graphics on their computer, go on stage with their clicker, and the images change when they press their clicker- so they are in complete control of their little bit of the programme.

He won't have been hanging around all day. He'd just be in, and then straight out again to do News Channel, or World News, or whatever is next on his shift.

He's never done it since- so I suspect it was another time when he would have been given ;words of advice' Obviously couldn't be bothered to put a London forecast together- so gave us the forecast he was going to give BBC World an hour later.

Oh how I laughed.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:35
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In a word

Yes.

The weather presenters prepare their own graphics on their computer, go on stage with their clicker, and the images change when they press their clicker- so they are in complete control of their little bit of the programme.

He won't have been hanging around all day. He'd just be in, and then straight out again to do News Channel, or World News, or whatever is next on his shift.

He's never done it since- so I suspect it was another time when he would have been given ;words of advice' Obviously couldn't be bothered to put a London forecast together- so gave us the forecast he was going to give BBC World an hour later.

Oh how I laughed.
You have even dreamt up a scenario where he has been 'given advice' because he 'obviously' couldn't be bothered doing a Lodon forecast.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:37
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In a word

Yes.

The weather presenters prepare their own graphics on their computer, go on stage with their clicker, and the images change when they press their clicker- so they are in complete control of their little bit of the programme.

He won't have been hanging around all day. He'd just be in, and then straight out again to do News Channel, or World News, or whatever is next on his shift.

He's never done it since- so I suspect it was another time when he would have been given ;words of advice' Obviously couldn't be bothered to put a London forecast together- so gave us the forecast he was going to give BBC World an hour later.

Oh how I laughed.
Errm, if he really couldn't be bothered to produce new graphics and decided to use one already prepared for World News as you claim. But if he were that lazy and the weather was the same as the 2 days before then why not reuse those graphics?

Why go to all the effort of running international weather on local news and no doubt getting no only himself in to trouble but the director and producer?
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:40
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You have even dreamt up a scenario where he has been 'given advice' because he 'obviously' couldn't be bothered doing a Lodon forecast.
To be fair I'm enjoying these increasingly absured scenarios.

I've got visions of him loitering around the office and altering graphics when somebody goes to the toilet!
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:43
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You have even dreamt up a scenario where he has been 'given advice' and he 'obviously' couldn't be bothered doing a Lodon forcast. It's like you were there.
The bloke is an idiot.

Everything is designed to draw attention to himself (like giving London the World weather).

Would any of the other forecasters have done that?

By the way the 5.20 am shipping forecast would be at the end of his shift, as it is always someone else at 6 on the 'Today programme'

By the way, Stav Daneos is presenting London weather as I type. 90% likely he will be doing 5.20 shipping forecast tomorrow, as late London weather seems to be start of shift- ending with shipping forecast in the morning.

I'm an insomniac who falls asleep with radio 4 on the bedside radio.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:49
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Finding it ridiculous to condemn someone for being ill at work and making assumptions as to why he was ill, going as far as accusing him of putting peoples lives at risk and discussing his sexual preferences is not devoted fanship it is just common sense.
But it is not one solitary incident and it was Radio 4 where higher standards are expected.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:56
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In a word

Yes.

The weather presenters prepare their own graphics on their computer, go on stage with their clicker, and the images change when they press their clicker- so they are in complete control of their little bit of the programme.

He won't have been hanging around all day. He'd just be in, and then straight out again to do News Channel, or World News, or whatever is next on his shift.

He's never done it since- so I suspect it was another time when he would have been given ;words of advice' Obviously couldn't be bothered to put a London forecast together- so gave us the forecast he was going to give BBC World an hour later.

Oh how I laughed.
They have to do it themselves because from what weather forecasters / presenters have said in the past, it is quite common for them to be told they only have half the time for the forecast, only minutes before going on air.

All weather forecasters are taught to give presentations to a range of customers both knowledgeable and those with little understanding of the weather. So doing radio and TV forecasts is just an extension of that.
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:57
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The bloke is an idiot.
You don't like a weatherman on TV. That will explain the fantasy scenario.

Everything is designed to draw attention to himself (like giving London the World News).
Surely the attenion is world weather. How was the attention on him?

Would any of the other forecasters have done that?
Give a bit of global weather instead of the weather that has been the same for the last few days? I'm not sure anyone can be THAT rebellious.

By the way the 5.20 am shipping forecast would be at the end of his shift, as it is always someone else at 6 on the 'Today programme'
By the way, Stav Daneos is presenting London weather as I type. 90% likely he will be doing 5.20 shipping forecast tomorrow, as late London weather seems to be start of shift- ending with shipping forecast in the morning.
I don't see the relevance.
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Old 21-12-2016, 23:26
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But it is not one solitary incident and it was Radio 4 where higher standards are expected.
Yes; thats it exactly.
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Old 22-12-2016, 07:33
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Do you have evidence that he behaved in a juvenile manner and that he was not genuinely ill from the way you speak I assume you must , going to a party the night before does not mean you cannot be genuinely ill the next day and it must be alcohol related. Being genuinely ill would not be grounds for your job being at risk even if you have made a mistake previously in fact being dismissed for being ill would be grounds for him suing his employer.

I assume you think those who relied on that report for their safety would rather have had someone throwing up and speaking between heaving, and of course if as you say he has put people at risk by his behaviour ( that is what you have said whilst not using those exact words ) then the police will be taking an interest and of course all those whose safety he put at risk will be suing the BBC as we speak.
His previous inappropriate behaviour is well documented.

No strong opinion on the man, but his sexuality is surely a private manner as to whether or not he wishes to disclose it - unlikely in and of itsekf to affect his performance.
Apart from yourself and one other, I don't recall anyone referring to his sexuality, although some of my gay friends have said that immaturity does appear to be a problem from some older gay men.

Yes. An 18 year old might be forgiven for getting carried away at a party; someone pushing 40 less so.

at his age? ffs really, thats the start of your arguement, someones age?

Do you? do you know anyone that does?
you seem to have a strange obsession for this man, does someone have a little crush?
Explain why you believe that I have an obsession and/or a crush on this individual.

Finding it ridiculous to condemn someone for being ill at work and making assumptions as to why he was ill, going as far as accusing him of putting peoples lives at risk and discussing his sexual preferences is not devoted fanship it is just common sense.
There's only you and Paul that have referred to his sexuality thus far.

It's certainly a kick in the Schafernakers, this.
😂😂😂

Yes; thats it exactly.
Indeed it is.

On it's own this incident would have barely made the press, but his previous behaviour has put this immature attention seeker in the spotlight.

Even if we are to assume that this incident was not his fault, someone who, for example, has been disciplined for regularly turning up for work late is going to receive short thrift from their employer when they turn up late again- even if it genuinely wasn't their fault.

He needs to learn to behave in a professional manner, because when something goes wrong that actually isn't of his own making, it may well be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Nobody knows if he was disciplined for disrupting the Shipping Forecast one way or the other as this would be confidential.
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Old 22-12-2016, 07:50
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Apart from yourself and one other, I don't recall anyone referring to his sexuality, although some of my gay friends have said that immaturity does appear to be a problem from some older gay men.
Apart that that reference there, we also have this from yourself in post 29:

I mentioned this to some gay friends of mine and they have been filling me in on his antics on the gay pick up app 'Grindr'
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=29

Yes. An 18 year old might be forgiven for getting carried away at a party; someone pushing 40 less so.
Then you have led a very sheltered or puritanical life, especially where Christmas partying is concerned. BTW, he's 37, it's a bit later before he's "pushing 40"
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Old 22-12-2016, 08:24
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Then you have led a very sheltered or puritanical life, especially where Christmas partying is concerned. BTW, he's 37, it's a bit later before he's "pushing 40"
I'm 53, and now finding it difficult to delude myself that I'm still pushing 40
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:06
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Surely it's not unreasonable for listeners who have heard something apparently go wrong on air to inquire what happened and express concern for the person ? If - as has been said - he was coming to the end of his shift why had he spent considerable time at a party ?
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